odd corner to move

[zen]

Am I for eminent domain? Yes when it serves a greater good for a greater amount of people.

May karma bring you your dream home, on a very very nice private and scenic piece of land, after a life of hard work, and personal dedication to find it and work on it and to get it just the way you love it, and a few days after you have retired there, you will open a letter from the local government informing you that you need to accept the price offered to you for it because a new shopping mall will be moving in because the old one at the old location just isn't good enough to serve the 'greater good' of your community.Afterall, your life and your dreams and your property rights all must bow the the multitudes of people who want their starbucks and coldstone creamery.

[GP1]

That plasma center is an embarrassment. It attracts the kind of people that we don't need hanging around our university students; the sort of person that any good parent wouldn't feel very comfortable knowing their son/daughter must walk by on their way to class everyday.

I think the people at the PA serve as a good example to the students. The people at the PA show the student the lengths they will have to go in order to buy beer if they can't afford it. What?......You're kidding...........The students are selling plasma for beer money like the bums on the corner? This is an outrage.Seriously, the corner would be better off if the PA was not by campus. I was never much of a Townhouse guy so I did not care when it was closed and replaced by PA. The bums worried neither me nor my parents. I was more of an Armadillo/BW3 guy with Annabel's mixed in if I wanted some live music and loose morales girls in the basement. Does any one remember The Trolley Stop at Highland Square. Why was it called the Trolley Stop? Answer: When Akron had a trolley system, the corner of West Market and Portage Trail was the furthest west the trolley traveled so the Trolley Stop was a fitting name. True story. I'm sure my good friend Z-P could tell us some more about the construction of the Akron trolley system. The rumor on the streets of ZipsNation is that he and many other Civil War veterans helped construct the system in the late 1800s. We could learn a lot of history from that guy. See everyone after Lent.....Happy Easter!

[Hilltopper]

Am I for eminent domain? Yes when it serves a greater good for a greater amount of people.

May karma bring you your dream home, on a very very nice private and scenic piece of land, after a life of hard work, and personal dedication to find it and work on it and to get it just the way you love it, and a few days after you have retired there, you will open a letter from the local government informing you that you need to accept the price offered to you for it because a new shopping mall will be moving in because the old one at the old location just isn't good enough to serve the 'greater good' of your community.Afterall, your life and your dreams and your property rights all must bow the the multitudes of people who want their starbucks and coldstone creamery.

Like comparing apples and oranges in this case. These propeties are a bunch of run down shit holes. The buisnesses would be wise to reinvest nearby because lots of people will be checking out the new stadium in the next few years. The thing is that these people aren't going to be interested in some beer soaked shithole, they will flock to new and clean though. Manny should build a new place across the street.

[zen]

Am I for eminent domain? Yes when it serves a greater good for a greater amount of people.

May karma bring you your dream home, on a very very nice private and scenic piece of land, after a life of hard work, and personal dedication to find it and work on it and to get it just the way you love it, and a few days after you have retired there, you will open a letter from the local government informing you that you need to accept the price offered to you for it because a new shopping mall will be moving in because the old one at the old location just isn't good enough to serve the 'greater good' of your community.Afterall, your life and your dreams and your property rights all must bow the the multitudes of people who want their starbucks and coldstone creamery.

Like comparing apples and oranges in this case. These propeties are a bunch of run down shit holes. The buisnesses would be wise to reinvest nearby because lots of people will be checking out the new stadium in the next few years. The thing is that these people aren't going to be interested in some beer soaked shithole, they will flock to new and clean though. Manny should build a new place across the street.

Apples and Oranges to you... it's still fruit no matter how you slice it. The fruit being the fact that someone else's subjective judgement decides whether you get to keep what you own.

[Hilltopper]

Am I for eminent domain? Yes when it serves a greater good for a greater amount of people.

May karma bring you your dream home, on a very very nice private and scenic piece of land, after a life of hard work, and personal dedication to find it and work on it and to get it just the way you love it, and a few days after you have retired there, you will open a letter from the local government informing you that you need to accept the price offered to you for it because a new shopping mall will be moving in because the old one at the old location just isn't good enough to serve the 'greater good' of your community.Afterall, your life and your dreams and your property rights all must bow the the multitudes of people who want their starbucks and coldstone creamery.

Like comparing apples and oranges in this case. These propeties are a bunch of run down shit holes. The buisnesses would be wise to reinvest nearby because lots of people will be checking out the new stadium in the next few years. The thing is that these people aren't going to be interested in some beer soaked shithole, they will flock to new and clean though. Manny should build a new place across the street.

Apples and Oranges to you... it's still fruit no matter how you slice it. The fruit being the fact that someone else's subjective judgement decides whether you get to keep what you own.

I guess this is where you and I disagree. As a buisness owner I would look at it as an opportunity to move up in life.

[zen]

I guess this is where you and I disagree. As a buisness owner I would look at it as an opportunity to move up in life.

That's just it. It isn't about what you would do. What you or I would do in that situation doesn't matter. We have no choice. Pack your bags. You're gone.

[g-mann17]

I guess this is where you and I disagree. As a buisness owner I would look at it as an opportunity to move up in life.

That's just it. It isn't about what you would do. What you or I would do in that situation doesn't matter. We have no choice. Pack your bags. You're gone.

Actually you do have a choice. Keep your neighborhood and property up. Make wise property decisions. Buy a house in an established neighborhood, not one on the border of a business district or university.

[zen]

I guess this is where you and I disagree. As a buisness owner I would look at it as an opportunity to move up in life.

That's just it. It isn't about what you would do. What you or I would do in that situation doesn't matter. We have no choice. Pack your bags. You're gone.

Actually you do have a choice. Keep your neighborhood and property up. Make wise property decisions. Buy a house in an established neighborhood, not one on the border of a business district or university.

So, what you are saying is, put your business in a location that no one will want, thereby assuring that your business will probably fail.What you are saying is, with all the other things you have to consider when buying a house, you also need to try to predict where they will put HighwaysStreetsShopping PlazasMallsCity HallPolice and Fire StationsParksWater&Sewer district and public utilities and need for community easementsPotentially reclaimed wetlandsHost zones for endangered speciesAnd any generally desirable areas for future housing and public developmentWell, that pretty much narrows it down to shit.This whole thing reminds me of the taxation debate.Society punishes you for success. You are punished for making good choices, and you are punished for taking risks.It pays to be a loser.It pays to play it safe, and not stick your neck out for yourself or your family.It pays to to not try

[g-mann17]

So, what you are saying is, put your business in a location that no one will want, thereby assuring that your business will probably fail.What you are saying is, with all the other things you have to consider when buying a house, you also need to try to predict where they will put HighwaysStreetsShopping PlazasMallsCity HallPolice and Fire StationsParksWater&Sewer district and public utilities and need for community easementsPotentially reclaimed wetlandsHost zones for endangered speciesAnd any generally desirable areas for future housing and public developmentWell, that pretty much narrows it down to shit.This whole thing reminds me of the taxation debate.Society punishes you for success. You are punished for making good choices, and you are punished for taking risks.It pays to be a loser.It pays to play it safe, and not stick your neck out for yourself or your family.It pays to to not try

You'll have to let me know how being a loser works out for you.And anyone that doesn't look into what is going on around a neighborhood before they buy their home is a loser. But that is besides the point, because you won't see a point of view other then your own. So I am done.

[zen]

You'll have to let me know how being a loser works out for you.And anyone that doesn't look into what is going on around a neighborhood before they buy their home is a loser. But that is besides the point, because you won't see a point of view other then your own. So I am done.

LOL< nice back handed insult.Before I get to that, let me just say that when I was house hunting, I DID look around the neighborhoods, but I DID NOT look into factors related to eminent domain. You are tisking your finger at me like I am an idiot for not making potential government seizure as one of the many priorities I should have had when shopping around for homes. Senseless.Now, I dunno why you want to bow out of an otherwise decent debate after your implied insult. I should be the one who is offended.About my implied loserness.... let me add fuel to your fire. I started a business in 2004. In 2005, I was already turning a nice profit. Impressive, I suppose, since everything I read told me (I can't remember exactly, but the best I can remember) 80% of businesses operate at a loss in the first 5 years of operating, and more than 50% of them fold before two years. Anyway, after grossing MORE THAN twice as much as I had when I was a peon employee working for someone else, but having to pay taxes that basically negated all the success I had so stressfully worked for, I suddenly realized that I came out ahead when I was a bitch for 'the man'. So, yes, I am on the path of the multitudes again. Just another employee. I gave up my business. Life is easier when you don't have to deal with the IRS, and columbus, and regulation and laws out the ass, and liability coverage, and self insurance. Now I suckle at the teet of mother government like nearly everyone else I know. Mommy protect me. I want to be safe and ignorant. I don't wanna take any risks. And now, as per your advice, I will extend that to my ownership habits. I would probably be smart to go back and be renter... but if I do own property, as you advise, I will be sure to own a crap-ass shanty on land no one will ever want.

[ZippyAlum]

My father owns several businesses and I know that govt. intrusion is alive and well. They say "no taxation without representation" but they are able to raise "fees" for licenses etc. at their discretion. Businesses enjoy tax write offs that the common person does not but when it comes to a liquor or food license you are at their mercy. However, the rent that most landlords get for the shacks they rent to college students is way above the level that landlords in other areas can charge. Supply and demand dictates what rent can be charged and the proximity to the university raises the amount that can be charged and still be competitive. Any business is a gamble but many of these houses have been providing landlords with good profits for years. Otherwise, why would so many ppl. invest in multiple properties? And now these ppl. will sell their rentals, businesses at great profit. I don't get what there is to complain about. If the university were just to take these properties without fair compensation it would be different but the owners stand to make a huge profit. My personal home is a palace compared to the rentals near the university but would not command the price that these owners are receiving. Hmmm, maybe they'll pay me a half a million and put the stadium in my backyard!!!!! Even a quarter of a million would do just fine!!

[ZippyforPresident]

Manny should build a new place across the street.From what I've heard Manny is the one who opened Ray's in Highland Square next to a bar called The Matinee which is also a Nemr owned establishment. Speaking as a student I can't wait until the new stadium goes up. And yeah, the Plasma Center needs to go. I hate trying to walk past that place when its open. I can't think of a time I've walked past that place and haven't been asked to spare change , if I have a cigarette (I don't even smoke), threatened, or had a home bum attempt to scam me or my buddies in some way. I understand everyone has problems and sometimes people fall on hard times but hitting up college students for money is an exercise in futility. I just want to be able to walk to class or to the Taco Bell without having to make up excuses about why I've got no cash flow or why I can't sign their "petition" with my phone number and credit card number.