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My first post on zipsnation.... i'm glad to read that there are some question marks about Milwee and TB. Thought I was the only one. As far as AD Mike, have heard he has voiced his concerns to TB and it is and was done in private, like Ham said above, it should be. Have also heard that Ball WILL be back. And I agree, if a change was coming we would have heard by now. Although lots of HC changes across the country and staffs change, so maybe AJ might see writing on wall and apply or network for a change....

Be careful. The Suckeye Faithful are already quite testy this morning. You're likely to get several more posts because of this. September 24th is Midseason? If we're debating whether teams should have been in or out of the playoffs, that's one thing. When you're distorting facts all for the purpose of defending ONE particular team, who is not even the Fanbase represented by this board, that tells me your motive. I won't respond to you baiting us on the "Akron doesn't compete against Ohio State" crap, because it doesn't belong in this thread. I'd gladly take that somewhere else. But, since our LOCAL media outlet put a Special 5-Page insert in the newspaper yesterday celebrating OSWho's (very brief) playoff run while they give us a "staff reporter" for their own Hometown D-1 team, that should give you just one element of what we are competing against as Zips Fans vs. Ohio State.

I get enjoyment and misery out of being a zips fan. Definitely the highest and lowest points of all my sports fandom. I am, however, sick of the misery, so my viewpoints are holding this program to a higher standard. That is the only way we will consistently be better. We have been so bad that any incling of success creates a feeling of complacency. I say a lot of things just to play devils advocate and sometimes I say them because they are exactly what I think. All I did was answer the mans question honestly. And if you think my answer wasn't exactly why he was scratching his head then you don't know keener like I do. I do agree it is important that recruits feel that way. All I did was answer a question.

Whether you or I or anyone else thinks those statements are true or not, it is important that recruits feel that way. Serious question - do you get any enjoyment out of being a fan of the Zips?

Ummmm, that they were one of the top two teams in the Mahoning Valley.

Thanks for posting and hopefully you stick around! Some fresh perspective is always welcome.

What did they say about Youngstown State?

If someone beating someone else, who beat someone else was solid Logic, Akron was the national champ in 2014. Akron beat Pitt, who beat Virginia Tech, who beat the Suckeyes. And since this Thread is about Playoffs, and not about defending OSWho on an Akron board, I'll stick with the point that a "certain team" was dropped only 3 spots in the standings with a head-to-head loss to an unranked team. Nobody can explain that, other than the desire for $$$$$$. That made their "appearance" in the playoff last night possible. If you want to keep posting for the purpose of defending the Suckeyes, I'm sure there's other sites created by the people 2 hours south of here that would join you in your despair this morning. And you can argue SOS, etc., all you want, but nobody can deny that there were certainly plenty of other candidates that would have done much, more than just show up and stand on the field last night.

Funny you should mention that. The BCS would have had the same 4 teams making the playoffs... https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2016/12/6/13853430/bcs-college-football-playoff-2016 http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/rankings/

Really, the BCS ranking system (which included the computers and the established polls) worked pretty well. It's just that the top teams weren't in a playoff. If we had the playoff but used the BCS ranking system, it would be pretty great. The committee is the worst idea.

Good work in some very windy conditions on that video. Did you see that flag standing straight out?

We've beaten big name mediocre P5 teams in the recent past. Can confirm Joe Akron didn't care.