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=>Now it is official... http://mac-sports.collegesports.com/sports.../110904aae.html

=>Miami-WMU officially moved from 2pm to 3:30pm for Michigan Comcast cable. Good so can take place after BUGS-Marshall is over. Miami-Akron unofficially moved from noon to 6pm for Fox Sports. No announcement yet. http://www.miamihawktalk.com/discussion/vi...pic.php?t=17295

=>Following MAC West Scenarios... I. NIU Beats Toledo: NIU II. Toledo Wins Out: Toledo III. Toledo Beats NIU Then Loses To BUGS: A. NIU Beats EMU: NIU B. NIU Loses To EMU: BUGS [iII.B. EXPLANATION AS FOLLOWS 1. BUGS Beat Marshall: BUGS has best record 2. BUGS Lose To Marshall: a. EMU Beats Can't: EMU, UT, BUGS, & NIU finish 6-2. UT and BUGS have best head-to-head record (2-1) and divisional record (5-1). BUGS beats UT so BUGS wins b. EMU Loses To Can't: NIU, BUGS, & UT finish 6-2. Once again UT and BUGS have best divisional record of 5-1 (assuming that is next tie-breaker). BUGS beat UT so BUGS wins] I am sure I am missing something.

=>RE: Game getting moved. See this thread... http://zipsnation.org//index.php?showtopic=759

=>The missing 8.82% or so is for those scenarios where none of the 3 teams win out. Such as Akron winning the East in Scenario IIB (Akron lose to OU, beat Miami, and Marshall losing at least 1 game) in my initial post.

=>No chance of it being moved to Friday. See Devil Grads post... http://www.miamihawktalk.com/discussion/vi...=17213&start=25

=>Glad you like it. Below is something I have run on each of the 3 teams chances of winning the MAC East. Obviousy, it is my subjective opinion that came up with the percents. Feel free to add your own into each equation if you differ. Hope my math is right. A. AKRON'S CHANCE OF WINNING THE EAST: Akron winning @ Ohio: 60% Akron beating to Miami at home: 35% Akron's chances of winning out: 21% (.6 x .35 = .21). B. MIAMI'S CHANCES: [who cares?] wining @ BUGS: 30% Marshall winning @ WMU: 98% Marshall's chances of losing 1 or more games: 70.6% (.3 x .98 = .294. Then 1.0 - .294 = .706) Miami win at crAkron: 65% Miami win at WMU: 95% Percentage chance of Miami winning the East: 46.95% (.706 x .7 x .95 = .46949) C. MARSHALL'S CHANCES: Beating BUGS on the road: 30% Beating WMU at home: 98% Akron winning @ Ohio: 60% Akron beating to Miami at home: 35% Akron's chances of losing 1 or more games: 79% (.6 x .35 = .21. Then 1.0 - .21 = .79) Percentage chance of Marshall winning the East: 23.23% (.3 x .98 x .79= .23226) NOTE: All these stats include only scenarios where a team wins out.

=>MAC EAST CHAMPION SCENARIOS I. AKRON WINS OUT: Akron II. AKRON LOSE TO OHIO, BEAT MIAMI A. Marshall wins out: Marshall B. Marshall loses 1 or 2 games: Akron III. AKRON BEAT OHIO, LOSE TO MIAMI A. Marshall wins out: Marshall B. Marshall lose 1 game: 1. Miami beat WMU: Miami 2. Miami lose to WMU: 3 way tie. Each 6-2 MAC, 5-1 East, 1-1 head to head. # C. Marshall loses 2 games: Miami IV. AKRON LOSE BOTH A. Marshall wins out: Marshall B. Marshall lose 1 game: 1. Miami beat WMU: Miami 2. Miami lose to WMU: Marshall C. Marshall loses 2 games: Miami # If next tiebreaker is head-to-head scoring, Marshall finishes with +5. Akron is now +3 and thus eliminated from finishing ahead of Marshall with a loss to Miami. Miami is –8. Miami would have to beat Akron by 14 points to finish +6. Miami beating Akron by 13 would leave a tie at +5 giving Marshall the head-to-head edge.

=>From BetonSports.com... Akron @ OU a pick em. Miami giving 20 @ WMU. BUGS by 10 over Marshall. http://www.betonsports.com/betting_lines.shtml# ****** If go by Sagarin Predictor... Home advantage is 3.40 H-BUGS 77.85 A-Marshall 70.41 PREDICTOR: BUGS by 10.84 H-WMU 45.45 A-Miami 67.15 PREDICTOR: Miami by 18.3 H-Ohio 55.06 A-Akron 56.19 PREDICTOR: Ohio by 2.27 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc04.htm ****** Amazing how close Sagarin is to the actual line sometimes.

=>If the game is not moved to Friday and if BUGS beats da Herd, I am certain to be there. I read on Hawktalk ESPN2 would like to move the game to Friday night. I would not be in favor of that because Miami hosts Gene Keady and the Boilermakers that night. It would not be good for Miami.

=>Way to beat the Herd!!! Here is hoping that you beat OU next week, Marshall loses to BUGS, and Miami beats WMU to set up a MAC East Championship game in the final week between your Zips and my beloved Redhawks. Thanks Zippers for giving us hope!!! If we in a bar, I would by you all a round!

=>More Akron talk on Hawktalk than here. Hope it is because you are all tailgating.

=>Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

=>Biggest game in Akron football history and there is no action at all on this board. I would have thought there would be at least a hundred or so posts here today.

=>Do not let the terrorist Herdiban regime retake power in MACghanistan! The freedom and honor of the conference is in your hands.

=>Beat da Herdinistas. Beat em. Beat ' emby 1 point if you must. Just beat 'em.