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12 minutes ago, skip-zip said:
How do you get tickets to the Women's game tomorrow? I can't find anything anywhere on line.
I know it's all first come - first serve seating. I just want to find out how to get the tickets, and how much they cost.
They are $10
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SDSU nearly fell to the Aggies before pulling away in the final 10 seconds. Relevant because SDSU is one of the few 1 bid conference teams remaining that would be seeded above Akron assuming that they win their tournament.
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Akron's RPI has climbed to #29 with the win. Lot of games going on today so it is highly likely that number will change one way or another by days end.
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I was wondering the same myself.
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Wish I could have been there. The Q must have been electric with this exciting of a finish.
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Classic case of live by the 3, die by the 3.
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I work near the Akron-Canton airport. I went to a sports bar to watch the 1st half. When I got there they had pretty much every game on besides Akron. I asked them to put channel 788 on and the bartender asked if this game was live. By the time I left, the Akron game was on half the TVs including both big projector screens and all I asked for was just 1 of the smaller TVs at the bar. Hopefully Akron picks up a few fans.
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I feel people have their own preconceived conclusions about which teams they like and they use whatever metric that they can find to support their claim. There certainly is no shortage of them out there.
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7 minutes ago, gozips19 said:
I know most on this board talk about Akrons RPI but it seems ESPN and probably the selection committee is using BPI. I'm not sure how Akron stacks up in that department but I'm guessing it's not in the 30's.
You are right that they would be much lower as they are 69th. That still puts them well ahead of Monmouth who is 86th.
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10 minutes ago, RowdyZip said:
Aren't the cheapest Akron tickets $38? That's not in the budget, especially because I plan on being up there for two more days after today? Might just take my chances with a scalper...
You can get tickets for $19 behind the baskets.
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19 minutes ago, zippyman23 said:
Never claimed otherwise. Neither looks good on a resume. Monmouth SOS is actually 164 compared to Akron's 123, so not as big difference. Monmouth has the two good wins, which is why there in the discussion.
Neither deserve an at-large and neither will get 1. We can agree on that. I got my SOS from ESPN. I'm not sure how our data sets are off. Figured it would be easy to calculate. Strange.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/page/4/sort/sos
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30 minutes ago, zippyman23 said:
That sounds great, but it really only matters what the committee thinks. Spin it how you want, but at the end of the day, the committee is going to view those as 6 bad losses as they have in the past.
All losses are bad in the committees eyes. Some are just worse than others. A sub 200 is worse than a top 125 loss just like a loss to the 50th ranked team is worse than a loss to the #1 team. Good luck trying to find a committee member that says otherwise.
SOS was also brought up. Monmouth's SOS is 203. Akron's is 129. Overall Akron played a much tougher schedule and came away with just as many losses.
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42 minutes ago, zippyman23 said:
I never said they didn't. They have 2 good wins, we have 0. They have 3 bad losses, we have 6. If you want to know why Monmouth is in the discussion and Akron is nowhere to be found, the answer is right in front of you.
A team with a 150 RPI is still in the top 43% of college basketball. Akron has 2 bad losses at the very most and those were to teams that are hovering around the 50% percentile of college basketball. Monmouth didn't have bad losses, they had disastrous losses. Losing to Green Bay who beat Valpo and is making the tourney isn't the same as losing to Manhattan, Army, or Cansius. GB as is NIU and KSU RPI are ~100 spots better than all 3 of those teams. CMU about 80 spots.
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Toledo went on a 8-0 run to start the 4th to take a 52-50 lead.
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The below is a composite ranking from 86 bracktologists. It lists Akron as the #2 12th seed. We aren't that far behind Ark-LR for the #1 12th seed, but we are trailing SDSU by a decent amount to climb into an 11th seed position. We almost certainly need 1 big upset in either the American, Mountain West, or some crappy team coming out of nowhere to win one of the multi bid conferences. An Ark-LR loss would help, but we will still be looking like a #12 seed unless we get other help as well.
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7 minutes ago, akzipper said:
Looks like Jim Christian had a good year for BC.
7 wins total and winless against the ACC.
BC football team also went winless against the ACC. How bad do you have to be to get booted from a conference?
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1 hour ago, Dr Z said:
From a Bill Livingston article about basketball:
"Football is doing much better than basketball. That is the consensus of the conference basketball coaches. The MAC put a lot of money into football programs," said Mix. What nights are MAC basketball games on ESPN? MAC athletic directors, led by former member Marshall, pressed for a television deal and any bowl tie-ins (at the time they had none) in 1999 when Chryst became commissioner. The MAC sent seven teams to bowls last season. Chryst's vision, now realized, was of ESPN televising MAC conference games on fallow midweek autumn nights, helping the conference grow from a molehill in the national consciousness to at least a football foothill now.
I'm not denying the fact that the MAC doesn't give basketball the same attention that it gives football, but at the same time I don't see an easy way of fixing the TV situation. The MAC has a niche in football with the midweek games because for the most part the B1G, SEC, PAC-12, and all other conferences play the bulk of their games on Saturday and the NFL plays their games on Sunday with only 1 Monday and 1 Thursday game. People watch because they have an itch for football and its' the only thing on. You would be hard pressed to find a night of the week that didn't feature at least 30 basketball games between college basketball and the NBA.
I'm not absolving them of blame as there are things that need improving. They need to start by getting their showcase tournament to air on an actual cable station for all games Thursday-Saturday. TWCSN is not acceptable as it eliminates any fan that has dish or another cable provider from watching. ESPN would be a stretch for anything besides the Final and perhaps semis, but there are a host of other options FSN, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN just to name a few. I should be able to walk into a sports bar and ask them to turn the game on and not have them tell me sorry we don't carry that station.
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I'd agree Akron likely is the MACs lone option to make the NIT. The NIT field is quickly shrinking. Right now we have 11 teams that won their regular season, but lost the tournament. Of those I feel Saint Mary's and Wichita State are the lone teams that will get an at-large. That leaves 23 at-large selections remaining and with several 1 bid conferences yet to play their final, that number will likely continue to shrink.
The MAC strength this year was in its depth. It wasn't top heavy with a few dominant teams at the top. I do believe Akron did enough to warrant a NIT bid regardless of their conference regular season title making them automatically in the field, and I think that will be reflected in their seeding if I they fail to make it to the big dance.
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I don't feel Akron is an at-large team. I'm not
35 minutes ago, akronzips71 said:Here is what I think you are missing:
The MAAC is a Metro NYC area conference.
It gets a ton of play in the press.
It has a hoops tradition going back to when the NIT was the king of tournaments.
While it is an "inferior" conference to the MAC, for many it is a "name brand" conference. With schools with a strong basketball name recognition: Siena. Niagara. Canisius. Manhattan College. Rider. Marist. St. Peters. I recall even back in the 1950's and '60 those schools and scores were ALWAYS announced on the radio news.
These are NAME BRAND schools in the biggest media market in the world.
So the conference gets notice. As opposed to the MAC, which has such luminaries as EMU, NIU and Ohios Polytechnic University.
So lets be real here: Football won a Bowl Game. Hoops has the auto NIT bid and a clear path to the Dance. Soccer won a National Championship. Baseball, well thanks Mr. President for the screwing.
But for Akron to have a shot at an at large pick in the Dance, we need to be in a BETTER conference. The MAC just stinks. It gets no respect.
I don't feel Akron is an at-large team. I also don't feel Monmouth is one neither. The MAC will be given an at-large team when it has a team deserving of one. The issue is in the rare instance over the 15 years a team was perhaps in position to be at-large caliber team they went on to win the MAC tournament making the discussion mute. Had Akron had 2 fewer losses, they would IMO almost certainly be an at-large team if they lost in the finals.
On another note that Gonzaga win adds another bid to the WCC total hindering Monmouth odds further.
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I don't see the need to criticize. The man is just trying to get his sons name out to different colleges. He doesn't know if anyone that visits this forum has any pull with the football staff to get them to watch tape of a player. Perhaps the kid pans out, perhaps he doesn't. We don't know this guys story or what kind of father he is. We shouldn't judge.
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8 minutes ago, GJGood said:
Where the Zips are concerned, I just don't understand why Akron doesn't even seem to be in the conversation even now that so many conference #1 seeds have gone down early in their own league tournaments. I haven't even heard one 'expert' say Akron is one the bubble but likely out, nobody has the Zips on the bubble at all despite an RPI in the 30s and winning the 10th toughest conference, out of 32, by two full games.
I feel Akron's issue is they haven't had that win that captured everyone's attention. If they go onto win the MAC, I feel you will see a lot of pundits come out of the woodwork between Sunday and Wednesday making them a trendy 12 over 5 or, if lucky, 11 over 6 pick. Personally I'm ok if teams and the media sleep on Akron as we might be able to catch some team off guard, but I want the selection committee to not dick us over on seeding.
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11 minutes ago, zippy5 said:
Seriously?
I've made it clear that the committee values their top 50 wins more. We barely have top 100 wins. Do I agree with it? Not sure, but it is what it is.
We have just as many top 100 wins as they do with the possibility of adding 3 more if we meet up with Buffalo in the finals. If we meet up with OU, our 2 top 80 wins turn into 3 top 60-70 wins.
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It should be noted that USC plays UCLA round 1 of PAC-10 tourney. This means Monmouth will be losing one of their top 50 wins or 1 of their top 100 wins.
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16 minutes ago, zippy5 said:
I've spelled it out. No one on the committee gives a flying **** that our RPI is higher because we beat up on MAC teams while they beat up on MAAC teams. Their conference schedule sucks, ours sucks too, just a LOT less.
FTFY
You are trying to compare the #20 rated conference to the #10 rated conference and say it's just a little better. Miami has the worst RPI in the entire MAC and that would be 5th best in MAAC. People give Akron crap for scheduling a handful or so of cupcakes OOC even though they played teams like Villanova (potential #1 seed), Green Bay (who is in the Horizon final), Iona (who won the MAAC), Marshall (who is a #3 seed in CUSA), and UCSB (who enters Big West as #4 seed), and Arkansas. Monmouth played over half their season against nothing but cupcakes.
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Detroit released their OOC schedule
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I feel the schedule looks better now than what it looked at the start of the season as teams like Green Bay and Marshall have played better than anticipated. Iona lived up to expectation and UCSB still has chance to make noise in their conference. I still would have liked to see Akron vs. a mid-tier Big 10 or a similar caliber team from another conference even if that meant sacrificing 1 home game to do so.
Overall Akron had a great season, but without a top 50 win on the resume, it cripples any hope for an at-large to the point teams have leaped them in the discussion despite Akron having a better record than them while playing a tougher SOS. It also hinders their chances of getting anything better than a 12 seed the times that they do win the MAC.