Zippy87

The fact that you keep bringing up rap songs is pretty telling, but I'll leave it at that.

These things have nothing to do with each other. You're grasping at non-sensical arguments to defend the indefensible. Huggins said something really ignorant. He was wrong. Period. We can debate if he should lose his job or not - that's fine - but he was wrong for what he said and any consequences he receives will be because of his own doing.

This ain't it.

"What it was, was all those fags, those Catholic fags, I think." Not at all overblown. He deserves every bit of consequence he has coming to him.

Not making it to the championship game at all is worse, no? Programs are built over time and mid-majors in particular take longer to build up. Prior to KD's arrival, Akron was 1-6 in the MAC Tournament. He elevated a program that was mostly mediocre to one that competed at the top of its conference every year for over a decade. No, we didn't get that elusive tournament win, but that doesn't mean everything else was for nothing. The program being elevated to a consistent league power made it an attractive spot for a talented coach like Groce, who is now trying to take us to that next level as a program. I don't know why we have to try to diminish KD's accomplishments here though. He was a big part of where this program is now and, from everything I've seen/heard, still has roots in our city and very much cheers for our success. I'm thrilled he was our coach during such a transformative period for our program and I'm equally thrilled Groce is our coach now to lead us to those next steps.

Our non-conference schedules haven't looked much different to me under Groce. Also not sure how a program that played in its conference championship game 7 straight seasons and 9 out of 11 underachieved.

Not sure time has proven anything about Akron's ceiling. I love Groce and believe in him, but our ceiling hasn't changed...so far. Hopefully that's coming, though. Concerning the state of the program, it was in good enough shape to attract Groce to it (Boals wanted the job, too, FWIW). Do you think those guys would've been pursuing an opening at, say, Western Michigan? We only had two down-ish seasons after he left, which isn't much compared to most mid-majors that lose a long-tenured coach. KD wasn't perfect. Sometimes he was too honest. But he was a damn good coach that elevated our program from a mostly middling MAC team that hadn't won much since the 80's to a top mid-major consistently in contention for the league title. I think we probably needed a change and believe Groce can take us to that next level eventually, but that doesn't mean we have to diminish the important work KD did in front of him. I know plenty about Zips basketball history. Personally, I don't think lower division accomplishments match up in terms of impact to being able to build a consistent winner at the D1 level. As for Huggins he was obviously fantastic, but I don't think he was here long enough to have sustained success that truly elevates a program over a long term.

The way some of you talk about this man is wild to me. Most impactful head coach the program has ever had.

On paper, might be the most quality depth since 2012-13.

I'd rather bring Tribble off the bench as a sparkplug but I can see them starting him as well.

If it is Ali, I'll be interested to see how everyone fits. Ali/Hunter/Baker Dawson/Prather Freeman/Lyles/MMK Thornton/Tribble/N. Johnson Scott/Tavari

I find it fascinating that Ali Ali entered the portal and hasn't been connected to anyone while no rumored players have been connected to our final scholly either.

If the AD or Head Coach at Toledo were offered a gig making more at a big-time school how loyal would they be? Players are only doing the same thing coaches and ADs have been doing for years.

I'm bummed to hear about the Surplus Sale not happening. I've found some really cool gear in past years at the event. I'm hoping that at some point, we'll be able to purchase more of a selection of items. I haven't been to the Team Shop in awhile but last time I wasn't impressed. Has it improved or does anyone know of a good place for gear? I remember a time when you could buy baseball game hats, team jerseys, etc.

Do other MAC schools do this?

Some here seem to really take it personally when someone leaves UA, coach or player. I've never understood it. Some serious "jealous ex" vibes.

Of course you welcome him back. But would he be able to play next year? Ali/Hunter/MMK Dawson/Johnson Freeman/Lyles/Baker Scott/Tribble/Prather Thornton/T. Johnson That team could be SPECIAL.

I swear they follow this forum 😂

To be fair, I went searching for Spring Game info on the Zips Athletics site and their social media and couldn't find anything so I came here. Hard to blame local media when Athletics isn't getting this information out there well enough. Anyhow, I see someone said 3 PM...any idea if there's a surplus sale this year?

I guess all I'm saying is Guthrie's Akron tenure won't be decided by how well the women's team does. He's not losing his job if this hire doesn't work out. He will need a men's basketball March Madness run or the football team turning things around to get the next job he is gunning for and he knows it.

Sexist? They're describing good qualities of a coach that I think most would want. It's a business, but you also want your school to treat people well. I'm not saying they did/didn't - I don't know how everything went down behind the scenes - but if she wasn't treated well/fair, I wouldn't be happy with that as alumni of the school.

I don't know that it's riskier than status quo for him.

The last scholarship has go to a big, right?