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Seating capacity, it will look more attractive for them. They are probably thinking "if it is not a Massillion-McKinley playoff game, do we want empty seats at the Info and if that is the case, the Rubber Bowl might be a better option." If it is all about the $$$, I wonder how much is it to rent out the info? Even better question, is the university trying to keep all profits from concessions if they hold playoff games there.

I think that they did already. Was passed over in favor of Massillion.

Is there a watch party anywhere? I did not see anything posted about it

I was thinking the same thing. The only "questionable loss" was Coastal. OK State is ranked now, Creighton was ranked at the time, Detroit is second in the Horizon behind Valpo with mentioned good RPI. It sounds like they don't wan't the Zips anywhere near a at-large bid

I did not know we played in the MAAC! Next somebody will have us playing in the MEAC

They also had NFL Europe

And you shouldn't. The Zips have been there before with that high win amount(2006-2007). Lost in the MAC tourney and got basically nothing for it. Yes I know there was the NIT, but for an at large, forget it. If I remember correctly, they lost on the road at Buffalo and that killed any change the had at a at-large bid. Looking at the team now, I see the same thing happening if they don't watch it.

It is the continuation of no respect

Going to Dayton to be apart of the "First Four Breakfast Club" is unacceptable. IMO, this has to happen to get a true at large: -Ohio or Western has to win the Conference title game -Creighton, OK State and Detroit must win out and get the auto bids -The entire MAC West has a miracle turnaround -The Marketing department keep the Zips in the national spotlight somehow That is asking alot, but it can happen

Exactly! Why go there now? Basketball will be a mess when they leave and at this point, Football will be also.

You might not have a choice. This was also a topic of discussion last year. The University is on it's own on this one. The City does not have the funds yet. I will agree 1,000,000% even the though of a 3800 seat arena is a joke. it has to be at least 5-6k I even find it sickening what the AD said in the Beacon article about keeping the now 5,500 seats. You will be fine if you lose 500 seats for seatbacks

Now you know full well using Chippewa and Mogadore is a bad example. It would not make a difference if they moved up or down. Talent makes the difference(and yes I think Mogadore could run the table in the City Series). I am still am trying to figure out why this debate has been going on for the last couple of weeks

Hold it, Like it was said eariler, you do not drop 60 million for a new stadium just to drop that far. The logic you are using is way off. I have ALWAYS loves the Zips no matter what. Go down to that level for what? Just to prove that we failed. If so, I am out on that program. It sounds like you want to "win yesterday by going to that level." I will be the first person to admit that they made mistakes through the years. That has been discussed at nasuim on this site. None of us here know what is going to happen within the next couple of years. Going to that level says one thing: We(no matter who said it back then) told you so. I want them to suceed like everyone else. Prove everybody wrong, make a winner here(yes it have been done). Finally, a national laughing stock? Stop the madness! We all know that there have been way, way worst football teams than the Zips the last 25 years (See Can't, EMU and others). I refuse to think that if the Zips drop down, we will satify the needs for a winner. You know what that is: Defeatist talk.

"Cincinnati, South Florida, Memphis, Temple, Boise State, San Diego State, UNLV, New Mexico and possibly BYU or Central Florida." They even threw in Duke and Wake Forrest. Now those are some real winners for a "major" Football conference

+1000000 Besides, I think it was you that said "Conferences grasping for straws"

As of now, the MAC is second in that poll. If they are that desperate to get out of C-USA, I promise you that the MAC will never take them back and they will be stuck there. They can thank themseleves for their own mess.

This is what I think about Can't State winning the MAC East......

It think it is more of a bribe

How can you say that? There are people here on this site, including myself, that have followed the Zips for many years. For me, this is "my team!" Do I like the losing? Heck no, but the only time there should be sadness(or anger if you prefer) should be when we loose the Wagon Wheel. No disrespect, but that is defeatist talk. Dropping one level means that you gave up altogether. You need to give it time.

Halftime Zips 24 Can't 14

A workaround I found is I use Opera browser on my Android and use the "single column" view.

It got brought up

I can go back even farther than that I went back and found the thread from two years ago on Can't States attendance issues and they used the Wagon Wheel game(for their only sellout in the history of that dump they call a stadium). The only reason I remember is because they put a whole marketing campaign together to get to the number.

From listening to the game, they can score, but they can't stop anyone.

Miami wins and you got all the boobirds out in force