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We all know that a football team's performance is a combination of coach and player performance. How good or great a coach has Mack Brown been at the University of Texas in recent years? How good or great a coach has Mack Brown been this year without Colt McCoy at QB? Same team with the same coach and some different players, and UT has gone from perennial winners to a sub-.500 team in a single season. Whose more responsible for this, the coach or the players?
Unless the coach is making absolutely horrible decisions, the players are to blame.
If I was Brown at Texas, I would treat this off season like a new coach does. Fiind out who wants to be there. Open up every position for competition. That team is asleep and they need to be awakened. The talent is there, just not the performance. A program like Texas needs this every once in a while. They play in an extremely difficult conference and sometimes some humiliation can go a long way to regenerate a team.
Getting back to the Zips. This off season has to have every position opened up for competition.
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So... if you really can recruit great players then you don't actually have to be a great coach to win?
That is correct. You don't have to be great. You can be good (there is a difference between good and great), recruit great players and create the illusion of greatness. Once the great players go away, you go back to just being good. Jim Grobe is a good coach fielding absolutely horrible talent. He is 2-7 right now. The talent is the difference.
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Brian Kelly won't be able to win at ND "until he has a chance to BRING IN HIS OWN RECRUITS,"
When Kelly gets a QB like Dan L and Pike at ND, he will win 8-9 games. The secret to coaching is catching lightning in a bottle then moving up the pay scale. Kelly will do that at ND for a couple of years and then fall back down to 6-7 wins a get fired like all the rest. He can then retire on a giant buy out.
Good players made Brian Kelly and all other coaches. Remember two years ago everyone talked about Jim Grobe being the best coach in America? This season, his Wake team is sitting at two wins against the mighty Blue Hose of Presby and Duke. Hear anyone saying he is the best coach in America? He was a great coach when he had the Seahawks Aaron Curry, the Lions Alphonso Smith, the Panthers Kenny Moore and Riley "Rhymes with Winner" Skinner all on the same team. Those guys leave and he is back to the guy who coached at OU. How many people know Jim Grobe has a sub .500 caree record as a head coach? EDIT: Jim Grobe has a career 94-90-1 record. I misread something on the internet. Sorry for the mistake.
There are few great coaches. Kelly and Grobe are not great, but they are great when they are like all coaches who get surrounded by great players. Take away the great players and they are no longer great. Go figure.
Anyhow, back to the Zips...... I'm going to go work out.
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Coach didn't botch a PAT that should be automatic at this point in the kicker's career.
Please tell me this didn't actually happen....
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Explain to me how we could be less competitive than 2010?
We lost to a bad 1-AA team, at home. We regularly get drilled by 30+. We lost the wagon wheel.
I don't think we could be less competitive, but we could be as competitive....God help us if we are.
In order to be less, we would have to lose to two I-AA teams, lose by 40+ and lose the wagon wheel again.
Can things get worse?.......Of course they can. Will they?.......Wait and see.
Both intellectually and emotionally, I still find it hard to believe we won't win a game this season. We have two games we should win and every MAC game is a chance for a win. I think the Zips can win two by the end of the year.
Winning two would be a great step forward in our building process.
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Basically means the MAC has complete control in the Temple situation.
If the ACC decided to expand, Temple would be a logical choice.
The BE should tell Nova to take the deal or leave it. Where else are they going to go?
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What a great spoof!!!!!
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Lol, whatever. MJ's really beginning to turn into the old fart who keeps dropping, "When I was a kid we walked to school & then back home, in the snow, barefoot, uphill - both ways..."
Just go away, Mike.
Does anyone know how many times the great Michael Jordan got his team out of the first round of the playoffs without Scottie Pippen? Never! Not a single time. Nada. Zilcho. And yes, you read that correctly, that's out of the first round.
Know what the Bulls record, led by the great Michael Jordan, was the year before the Bulls acquired Scottie & drafted Horace Grant?
40-42!!! That's right, the "great" Michael Jordan's Bulls were 40-42 without Scottie & Horace & were again swept in the first round of the playoffs.
The next year the Bulls acquired both Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant & then and only then did things begin to click.
How soon we forget.
The problem is more people know the myth of MJ rather than how the Bulls really fared w/o other All-NBA players surounding him.
Shut up, Mike.
And, btw, that embarrassing 40-42 record was with Charles Oakley manning the PF on that team - the 2nd best PF in the game at the time (behind, IMHO, Karl Malone.)
That Michael Jordan really sucked.
I think your love of James has made you insane.
I guess the biggest difference between Jordan and James is as follows. Jordan is admired by almost all basketball fans for his accomplishments....it takes more than one hand to wear his championship rings. Jordan produced heroic efforts in the championship series more than once on his way to his championships. Jordan was the team leader. He is still loved by fans today...note that he can still sell shoes after all these years.
Contrast that with LBJ who has won nothing and revealed himself as a choke artist in the playoffs thus far is not impressive. James is not a leader and is looking to win a ring on Wade's back.
James is a great player, but not a champion. Many think this will be the year he gets his ring.....I think there is a guy in Los Angeles who will have something to say about that.
The Nike silhouette of Jordan flying through the air is know throughout the world even today. I wonder what the LBJ silhouette would be....have at it LBJ haters.
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Voters aren't that smart either. I think the heat is melting some brains in SC.People in politics are really stupid people.DeMint, a conservative Republican and tea party darling pursuing a second term, has marshaled a $3.5 million war chest already to face the bare-pockets Democratic underdog.Sounds like an easy way to get reelected, make sure you run against a homeless guy who can hardly speak.
You like watching train wrecks GP1, hopefully this guy agrees to some debates.
I had the chance to vote for Senate in SC and voted for Green. I knew he wasn't going to win and as long as I had a vote to waste, why not. My thinking was since I believe Washington is full of retards, I my as well vote for a real one. Made sense at the time and the logic still holds.
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Blame it on the Big East for setting the selection bar at "terrible." If they had just set it at "abysmal" we would still be in the running.
Heard that the SWAC is thinking of extending us an offer.
Now that's a darn good fan board post.
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Man our football team really killed our chances of ever moving up. So sad that terrible schools like UCF and Houston can move up instead of us....
With the exception of soccer, we would get demolished in the BE.
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Luke "The Messiah" Fickell
Nice touch....of course the guy is the Messiah, he's from Ohio. That's all it takes to be a good coach (two of our three D-1A coaches were from Ohio).
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let's just say I have a funny feeling about this one
I have a funny feeling about the Zips too.....sort of how I feel right before I throw-up.
Seriously, it's the MAC. We can win this game.
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I really hate the "more time" argument in sports.
Terminating a coach after one season is a pretty drastic step to take. I don't want to turn UofA into the Cleveland Browns.
One more year if he only wins one won't make the program any worse than it is right now.
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Give the man some more time. "Time" meaning till the end of the season to see if we win a game or not.
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In his first year at Auburn, with higher level players than he had at Iowa State, he coached the Tigers to an 8-5 record. This year, only his second at Auburn, he has the Tigers on top of the BCS standings. The Auburn fans now love the man they initially hated when they underestimated his potential based on his early head coaching record. It's funny now to watch video of how Auburn fans welcomed Chizik at the airport.
Good post. A lot of how good of a coach you are depends on the players on your team. Better players = good coach. Poor players = bad coach. If players didn't matter, people wouldn't care about recruiting.
Vince Lombardi won 75% of his games in Green Bay and only 58% of his games in Washington. Same guy, worse records. Good coach or bad coach? Maybe it was the players.
I've said before, my objection to Coach I is philosophical. I don't believe his style of play is conducive to winning in college football in 2010. I'm sure the guy knows a heck of a lot about football and probably more than 99% of the posters on this board. The Zips didn't need a guy to come in an go on a five year "building process". We've had enough of that. We needed and still need a guy to win asap. If the Zips don't get things turned around quickly, that stadium sitting on Brown Street is going to be as empty as a Sunday evening church service on Super Bowl Sunday.
If they go 0-12, I think they should fire him not because he doesn't know anything about football, but because a guy who goes 0-12 can never get the program turned around because he will be crippled by the 0-12 record. Fans will walk away. Recruits who want to come to an 0-12 program will be slim....good players want to play at winning programs.
As bad as the MAC is, I still hold out hope that we can win at least ONE game. It really isn't unreasonable in the MAC.
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UofA has yet to produce a coach that goes up the ladder after UofA, earning it the Great GP1 name of "The Graveyard of Coaches". I would have done exactly what he did.
Pretty flawed argument, GP1, when you consider who the Zips hired as their last three coaches. Faust was retirement age and had already been at ND. Owens...well, whoever thought it was a good idea to hire a HS coach got what they deserved. Brookhart?....good heavens, his credentials were about as poor as Ianello's. And Ianello?....no one will come headhunting for him either.
That speaks more to the flawed UA selection process. The right man could come in to this market and awaken a sleeping giant. You really think RI is that man?
Fickell would've connected with people from Day 1.
Do I think RI is the man? Hell no! IF this team goes 0-12, he should be fired, along with the AD who hired him, at the end of the year.
Other than being from Ohio (I'm not sure why that matters), what would make him a great coach? He was a defensive coach at UofA during the Owens years....Remember how the defenses played during those years?
Did anyone ever think we get the quality of coaches we get because it is all we can get? Why is UofA an attractive position? Why would a guy like LF come to UofA?
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This is as close as I could get to an article stating LF had any real interest in the job at UofA. It only says he was a candidate. This could mean anything. The interesting thing is it is in an article about tOSU coaches getting raises. Was he interested in UofA, or was he interested in getting a pay increase?
$100K difference between assistant coach at tOSU and head coach at UofA. What would you do? UofA has yet to produce a coach that goes up the ladder after UofA, earning it the Great GP1 name of "The Graveyard of Coaches". I would have done exactly what he did.
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On top of it look at what the "Recruiter" left behind in South Bend....a 4-4 program that got their ass handed to them by Navy last week. How does he even get the reputation of being an excellent recruiter when the program sucks soooooo bad!
Good post. This is the best part. ND just isn't bad, they are terrible and void of any talent. Navy has better talent....NAVY. I watched Wake almost beat Navy this season and Wake is terrible.
Getting back to a question I asked earlier. What evidence is there that LF is even interested in the program beyond the fact that he has a connection to UofA through his professional career? I'm sure he would like to see the Zips do well because he coached at UofA, but is there any REAL evidence he showed a level of interest beyond just a passing glance? Someone please provide that evidence.
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This is a disgrace and an embarrassment. Zips fans should demand an explanation.
I agree it is a disgrace and embarrassment. I demand an explanation.... What evidence is there that this guy wanted the job?
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There are some great players on this squad and some great underclassmen,
There is no great anything on this team. However, there is a lot of "good enough"....good enough not to go winless.
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I'd say JD's recruiting fell off...I never did buy the idea that we really had any talent on this team.
We have basically the same level of talent that won three games last year. They shouldn't go winless.
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No word on who else was interested but didn't get an interview, although Jim Tressel's protégé Luke Fickell was rumored to be interested but got rebuffed by the athletic director.
This rumor is false.
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Please name me one other D-1 school in the country that would've hired Ianello TO BEGIN WITH, other than Akron, the 120th worst team.
I can't. I also don't remember who was looking for coaches last season.
The real question is, "Who else was interested?" There are always discussion on this board about who we should hire. The more important question is, "Who is interested?" Hire Bowden?....What if he isn't interested? etc.
Despite there being twenty-two FBS schools looking for a new coach after last season, only two were interested in Ianello: Akron and San Jose State.
I didn't state the questions clearly enough. I should have said, "Who else was interested in Akron?" I know because of confidentiality reasons they can't say, I'd like to know who else was interested or even who else was contacted to see if they were interested. You can only hire someone who wants to be hired.
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UT does make good coaches great. This season is the exception and not the rule.
There have been very, very, very few great college football coaches. Paterno is the last living "great" football coach. He wins at PSU. He made the PSU football program and to some extent the university what it is today. He has changed with time and continues to field consistent winners. The other night, Lou Holtz said something funny, "Penn State is 15 minutes from Harrisburg by telephone." Paterno got good players to go to PSU and then he won. Recruiting to PSU can't be easy.
Bear Bryant was a great college football coach. Won and changed an entire conference by allowing USC, with Sam Cunningham, to come to Alabama and kick the crap out of his team. The SEC is a great conference today because of that game. The south is a better place because of what Bear Bryant did.
The culture of college athletics does not allow for someone to stay at a school long enough to be looked at as great. Most coaches are opportunists as they jump from school to school, cashing in along the way. Brian Kelly is a good example of this type of coach. Time is going to catch up with Kelly at ND in the next 3 years when he is unable to get that program to where the alumni think it should be. He'll be just another good coach who went to ND over the past 15 years and got fired because time has passed that program by.
Paterno and Bryant had down seasons and bad losses. I wonder how many idiotic fans were saying things like, "The Bear has lost this team and should be fired." What they were able to do is stay at their school long enough to get things turned around after what was considered a bad season. If guys like Mack Brown and Urban Meyer stick around their schools and turn them around, they should be looked at as great.
Congratulations to Coach Paterno for his 400th win. Most head coaches never coach 400 games let alone have 400 wins. If Paterno retires after this season, a real American treasure will be lost.