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All good points. I would like to know what our money situation is in comparison to other MAC schools. Does anyone know?Everyone fully understands we are not going to generate as much revenue as BCS schools. If we are generating relatively the same revenue as other MAC schools, then there is a problem beyond money.

In the next 50 years, Akron will not be competing for the national championship. The MAC has been around since 1940whatever and nobody has won the national championship. Just like the NFL, all 12 games do not matter. If you are concerned about defining excellence as winning the MAC, the games that do matter are the MAC games and they consist of 8 games a year. The goal of UofA should be to win the MAC East and get to the Championship game. Once there, anything can happen. 7-5 can get a team to the MAC Championship game....8-4 almost guarantees it. Our biggest problem right now is we are not even good enough to win seven games with the schedule we play.If the goal is to win 9-10 games a year, scheduling needs to be addressed.

I respectfully submit that I do not fully buy into this Marxist idea of college athletics. It's not that money isn't important, but is it the only reason for making programs better? I would submit that winning and winning players make teams better. I would bet that over the past ten years, the football program has generated more money YOY in each year. Why do we still suck? There is more money, but we still only have one MAC Championship under our belts.I'll continue to use our MBB program as an example again. From what I read on this board, crowd numbers are up but not as much as one might think given the success of the program. Sell-outs are few and far between. There is no way the MBB team turns a profit. They play in a horrible arena. Yet, they win. Is it money or the winners on the team?

To which I began the thread after the Indiana game, "Akron to Missouri Valley Conference". Seems it drew little interest except from the YSU lurker. Since Akron does not have the resources to "compete with the big diogs" (diogs apparently meaning BCS conference schools?) should we therefore abandon all intent on competing? Excellent point. There was a time in college football when there were not divisions in place to separate the schools. If you look back, tOSU used to play teams like Muskingum and other now D-III schools. Most of the time that did not happen because people knew where they belonged without formal divisions.Mt. Union is by all standards the best team in D-III over the past 15-20 years. They couldn't win a game against any D-I team and college athletics are set up so they can never get to that point.Some fan logic would have us believe the end result of striving for excellence is going 12-0. Could not the end result of striving for excellene also be going 7-5, making the MAC Championship game and then winning it? I just want to be the best team in a bad conference. 7-5 can get you there. The team that won the Super Bowl last year went 12-4 in the regular season. What if they go 10-6, limp in to a Wild Card spot and they go on to win the Super Bowl again somehow? Is that still excellence or "is their program going in the wrong direction" because they didn't win as many games as the year before? In the end, they just want to get to the playoffs and let the chips fall where they may. Doesn't 7-5 get a MAC team close to the division championship with a chance to let the chips fall where they may in December?

Just do it for crying out loud. I never post on one of these threads, but they are always funny to look at.

Thanks. We can't gain momentum with the schedule we play. I used to think our MBB scheduling was weak....and it is on some level, but it does what KD wants it to do. It creates a winning record and winners want to play for winners. Below is our upcoming MBB ooc schedule. Keep in mind that only 15% of those games are played against what in football would be BCS level teams. Our football team currently plays 75% of their ooc games against BCS level teams.Austin PNC StateDrakeHowardAR Pine BluffNiagraTX A&MMalone (this game is an absolute joke)UNCGUICValpoWyomingRhode IslandWhat if we changed the games so that the team played 75% of their games against BCS level teams? It might look like this:North CarolinaNC StateDrakeGeorgetownAR Pine BluffBoston CollegeTX A&MOklahomaIllinoisUICVillanovaUCLARhode IslandInstead of starting out the season 10-3, they might start out the season at best 4-9. How does that establish a winning program? It doesn't. KD is absolutely scheduling properly and the football team....sorry, the AD needs to take note (unless they really need the money).

Why would I work for you, I already work for myself?

Have any of the people complaining walked on a job site in the past few year? The truth is, there are a lot of Mexicans working in construction in the US and the other part of that is they are the only people willing to work hard enough to assemble a building on time. It was not intended to be a knock. Sorry to the sensitive.

7-5 in the MAC is 9-3 at a BCS school. Throw out two guaranteed losses for two guaranteed wins like BCS schools do and you increase the wins by two. MAC schools guarantee losses for money to sustain their athletic departments. BCS schools guarantee wins for money was well, but the money they are looking for comes from packed stadiums with guaranteed wins against lesser competition, bowl money and the alumni support that comes from going to bowls. That which goes on in college football really isn't that difficult to figure out.Does anyone really think a MAC school can sustain 9 win seasons year in and year out in the current college football climate? I think the historical record shows different. Save me the new facilities nonsense, the new stadium has only been open for a month and at one time everyone in the MAC had a new stadium yet they all go through more periods of sucking than being good. Marshall won in the MAC and their school is in Huntington, WV....anyone who has ever been there knows what a dump the place is yet they won. Did Marshall have a new indoor practice facility or did they have chronic winners playing for them? I know they had chronic winners but I'm not sure about the facilities.One solution is to eliminate the money games, play I-AA teams at least twice and cupcake D-1A teams. The Zips can not continue to play three BCS conference teams a year...the risk of losing is too great. If we did that, I would expect nine wins a year. Until then, 7 wins is the benchmark for a good season.Anyone who thought any MAC team would be more than 1-3 at this point with the schedule the Zips have played is fooling themselves. I did think we could rally late after the first four, but I didn't figure losing our senior QB before the rally, the playcalling that got Shame fired from Miami (although this shoud have been obvious to me) or a QB coach that is hanging around until the end of the season so he can retire back to Pittsburgh (should have also been obvious to me looking back now). The Zips are in heap big trouble. The Zips badly need to schedule differently unless they really need the huge paydays.

CMichFan,Please don't let the fact get in the way of a good argument.Also, when you see Dan, please tell him the Great GP1 is not interested in autographing a keyboard for him. I just don't have time to send him a note.

It's because buildings don't win games. There has been an arms race in the NCAA over the past few years. We were just part of the arms race and not operating in a vacuum.Getting back to the main point. 7-5 is a good MAC season. A senior QB would help right now but we all know how that went....Jacq was sent back to the mean streets of Mentor and we were left with our mess. Rodgers had been playing college football for three years now I think and he looks as if he will never be able to play. "Growers" beware, Rodgers isn't going to grow into anything.

Just wait until Burger King gets their hands on them....

I thought I posted something about this this morning, but it must not have taken. This post has nothing to do with the QB situation.Prevailing fan logic about red shirts is that they are always good and players are better because of them. When words like "burning" are used, it is being used in a negative manner. When prevailing fan logic is one way, GP1 usually goes the other way. For example, when the fans yell, "Go for it" on fourth and four, GP1 yells, "Punt. Don't listen to the crowd, they've been drinking all day". I always laugh when announcers say, "The fans want them to go for it". Of course they do, they are impaired by alchol. Here we go. Red shirts are on scout team. Players on scout team do not get much individual attention and do not develop during the season. Being red shirted can stunt their growth and in some ways harm their development when bad habbits are developed, etc. Players develop by playing them in games. When a player is on scout team, there is no telling how he will do in a game. Red shirts are not always good.If a player can play, then play him. The people of Ohio are paying too much for our guys to go to school not to use them if they can help win.

I've worked in the construction industry a long time... {Moderator Edit: Off color ethnic comment removed after several complaints. Please refrain from this behavior}

I thought this was JD's plan for the bye week..... I bet it is to polish up his resume and network some.

Charlie Frye? How many Championships did Frye win at UofA? The career LeFevour has has at CMU dwarfs what Frye did at UofA.As far as Boo Jackson, while the Great GP1 does know everyone in addition to knowing everything, Boo has not contacted me. I didn't go looking from the note from Dan, he sent it to me.

Why are there some people obsessed with not burning red shirts? One year on scout team can do more to hurt a player than help their development. Players on scout team get very little instruction from the coaches and can lose more ability than develop.These kids make thousands a year in scholarships. Use them.

This logic is interesting to me. The logic is if there were leftover LO players then the team isn't his. OK then, JD has only been the coach for two or three years now and he should get three more years to make the team "his". Everyone should read that last sentence out loud to see if you feel stupid or not after reading it. How come the 2006 and 2007 teams wouldn't be his as well? Weren't there LO players left over at that time as well. The truth is, they were his teams. Brett Biggs, a JD recruit, was the reason they won the MAC. Luke Getsy played a huge part in them winning the MAC....Luke didn't transfer to UofA because of the nice climate. Alleman didn't transfer because of the nice climate as well. Kemme was a JD recruit and part of that team. JD rescued Hixon from LO's defense and put him on offense then turned him into an NFL WR....Owens didn't do that and JD should get the credit.As far as the players, did Owens produce an NFL player in his first five years? Taylor, but Faust recruited him. I really don't remember one, but they were all so easy to forget. Alleman is an NFL player. The Browns have a Zip on their team. Corner is there. Would Blackburn be in the NFL without JD?...there is no answer to that but it is always nice to have a coach and group of coaches who know NFL coaches.After this season there will be a new coach. We need one. I fully expect the team to be his on day one. There is enough talent to win and to put off winning for two or three years until the team is "his" is just stupid. I just hope the players don't throw temper tantrums and leave the team after he gets canned.Seriously guys, you don't have to come up with strange intellectual gyrations to justify firing JD. It's a waste of time. He isn't doing anything with the talent he has and will be canned at the end of the season. All the coachers will be happy until the Zips lose a game next year then they will all be back with the same logic.

When things get this bad, there is never one single problem. JD is not THE problem, but he is a big part of the problem. There is a lot of blame to go around, but the buck stops with him. He has eight more weeks to get six more wins.....

Oh, that's real classy CMichFan. I would expect that out of a school that produced a QB that passed along a letter to me to forward to one of our posters today. You can see it on another thread started by GP1. You're all a real class bunch. Learn to win with class. Your QB should be out studying...instead, he is writing letters to be posted on this board.

I agree. She is climbing the Mt. Everest of coaching problems and I think she is doing a good job. Hopefully the new AD shows some patience with her. Six years with JD is enough. JK should get at least nine.

I'm not worried about Zeke and bad passes...he'll be too busy dunking on the horrible players that the MAC call "centers" to pass. I'm not worried about him missing layups....he's 7' tall and should be getting dunks. Zeke is a HS All-American and will lay waste to this horrible conference.

Maybe my memory isn't what it use to be, but wasn't Brett Biggs #34?

Like I said, don't shoot the deliveryman.

In addition to knowing everything, the Great GP1 knows everybody. I mentioned couple of week ago that Dan LeFevour sent me an e-mail saying after the UofA vs. CMU game he was going to send me a letter to forward to Captain Kangaroo. Apparently he was upset that CK called him overrated. I logged onto my e-mail and found the letter below from Dan addressed to CK with a request to post it on ZipsNaton.org. Below is that note with my commentary after. Don’t shoot the deliveryman. Central Michigan UniversityDan LeFevourAttention: Football OfficesMount Pleasant, MI 48859September 27, 2009ZipsNation.orgAttention: Mr. Captain KangarooAkron, OH 44325Dear Mr. Kangaroo,Suck it.Sincerely, Dan LeFevourQuarterbackCentral Michigan UniversityThis letter throws me into a whirlwind of emotions and confusion. I’ll start with the emotions first.I’m absolutely appalled that a D-1A QB would send out a letter to a fan board owner. I would think Dan would not have the time on his hands to do this. The coaches should take immediate disciplinary action and make certain this does not happen again. He should just keep his mouth shut and play football. You won Dan, now walk away with some class.The other emotion is actually positive. When I was growing up, young people did not call their elders by their first names the way they do today. They called them Mr. or Mrs. It’s nice to see that Dan respects his elder in Captain Kangaroo enough to call him Mr. Kangaroo. I guess that is a positive in Dan’s favor. As a sidebar, I would be interested in knowing if the word "Captain" was earned in the military (please site branch) or if Captain Kangaroo has some eccentric parents who handed out strange first names. Let's get back to the letter though.My confusion lies in the body of the letter. I think we all know what suck means. It's a verb and a pretty easy to understand verb. The confusion is in what “it” means. I would expect a college senior to be able to write a letter with much more clarity than what we have been provided. Clearly he is not an English major. At this point we are left in a state of confusion and can only speculate as to what “it” means. I have some ideas below, but it is only speculation.Maybe “it” means his two MAC Championship rings. I don’t think that is the case though. If it was, the word usage is all wrong. “It” is singular and since Dan has two championships, the sentence would need to be, “Suck them.” "Them" being the plural in reference to his two MAC Championship rings. Maybe he was just referring to his two championships, but again it would say “Suck them” in lieu of “Suck it”.“It” could also mean his Motor City Bowl MVP Award. I doubt this as we had a game against them yesterday and that game was a long time ago and the Zips did not even play them.“It” could also mean his MAC Freshman of the Year Award, but I don’t think that is the case for the same reasoning as the previous paragraph.“It” could also mean his 2007 MAC Offensive Player of the Year Award. 2007 was a lot closer than 2006, but this also does not fit as well.Against Michigan State, Dan surpassed Byron Leftwich as the #1 all time total offense producer in the history of the MAC. Maybe he was referring to this record when he wrote “it”. With several games remaining in his college career, I don’t think he would have been referring to this record.One year he passed for over 3,000 yards and ran for over 1,000 yards being only the second player in NCAA history to do so. Vince Young was the first. I also do not believe the word “it” is in reference to this award. Dan doesn’t seem like the kind of player who is concerned with personal records.LeFevour has a career passer rating going into this season at 138.8. He also had 72 passing TDs and 32 rushing TDs going into the 2009 campaign (that’s 624 points, but who’s counting). Maybe the word “it” is in reference to one of these statistics. Again, I doubt that because I don’t think he is concerned about personal statistics.I’ve run out of ideas as to what “it” means in his letter. If anyone can help, I’m listening. Please don’t shoot the deliveryman. If I receive any more letters from Dan, I will be sure to forward them to the board.