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The Proenza hangover has been difficult to recover from. Too much growth, too fast and not considering changing state/regional demographics. While enrollment is down, that's a common story among Ohio public universities. I'm less concerned about quantity and more interested in quality but I don't know if that is being accomplished. Even OSU has had some bad years recently. I think Dr. Miller is doing a good job all things considered. There is no shame in being wrong about win predictions. Our job as fans is to be overly optimistic. I don't think fans realized how horrible the program was the 3-4 years prior to Joe. He took over a DIII team. Making the team as competitive as they were this year showed me the guy can get the team to a bowl game next season or maybe 5 wins. Probably 5 becausr the scheduling is so moronic. It's an easy league to get good in.

Good post and I agree. I know it's hard to see, but we aren't that far away from a bowl and a bowl win.

I watch almost no high school sports. What I do see makes me believe the post game free buffet at the local Pizza Hut is compensation enough for their "talents".

It would be hard to find many people who believe Joe is a bad hire.

Dear God. This is such a bad hire. It makes me happy beyond belief. This idiot took a pay cut to win fewer games, go to no bowl games, have zero chance at a division title and basically kill his career. Only at Kent State could something so stupid happen. I hope he likes living in Rootstown.

Basketball is interesting. The TP has made college basketball more competitive, but has also made it very sloppy.

For every one on the way up there will be one on the way down.

I think you're right. And my version of "better" is more entertaining and competitive. There are always going to be the usual cast of characters, around 10 teams, that are always at the top because they can throw money at winning. I'm not interested in those teams and I really don't watch them because their games aren't very competitive or entertaining. I'm more interested in how the free movement of labor (transfer portal) has made G5 football the most entertaining in college football right now. The quality of players has created better competition and entertainment across the board. We see it in bowl games this year. I know as mac fans we can get down on the conference, but the football is better now than it has been in years. Akron is a much better team than last season and will be even better next year. Now, if they could stop pimping out their schools to P5 schools and play games at more convenient times/days for fans (see pimping out) the MAC will have something. The ongoing suicide needs to stop though.

Buffalo beats Georgia Southern in another very good G5 game. I don't put a lot of stock in bowl games, but G5 schools are playing hard. The MAC is representing itself well. The league is not a laughing stock and if they could stop pimping out their football programs for cash, they can turn the league into something really good with other G5 conferences. Can they though?

I forget the year and I think the opponent was Kent, but he had the greatest single game effort in Zips history. I remember a kick return for a TD and at least one int for a TD. Someone help my memory.

I love the teams. I hate the mac leadership.

A major problem the mac needs to address.

Why wouldn't Akron want to get out? The MAC is the best fit for the athletes, students, alumni, fans and general community. Anytime Akron has made a unilateral move it fails. Since I don't care about what WkU and mTsU would do, I don't care what their short term decisions say about the mac. The changes the MAC needs to make have nothing to do with mTsU or WkU or any other outsider. So I just have a general question for anyone who thought adding WkU and mTsU was a good idea. If it was such a great idea, how come there weren't conferences begging them to come in? They were the schools begging.

If the mac added them tomorrow, they would be gone by 2025 in a way that would make even Marshall blush.

P5 members are beginning to choke on their greed. The television networks are shoving their greed down the schools throats also. It's going to be fun to watch the schools choke on it. What they do swallow is going to come out the other end as a massive pile of uncompetitive pile of crap. The P5 regular season will become unwatchable at the highest level. Degenerate gamblers and casual fans semi watching games in bars while chugging down the TV sponsors cheap beers will be happy, but if you like good football, you will be disappointed. I believe things like nil and the TP are a good thing. After all, this is a free country. I'd like to say college football has been caught flat footed, but I don't think that's the case. The people who are destroying college football are just moving on to their next money grab and not fixing the problems at hand. Most are so stupid any decisions they make to solve the problem will only make it worse. G5 schools need to find a way to get away from the giant pile of crap before the smell leaches on to them. The money simply isn't worth it.

Depends on whether or not the G5 schools start their own division. If so, they will have their own playoff. I'd actually watch a G5 playoff. The schools can't buy wins so I would expect the competition to be very good, unlike the P5 schools.

Toledo 21 Liberty 19 Another spirited game by two G5 programs (sort of). A solid win for the MAC against a good opponent. Currently 2-1 against some good teams. G5 schools are playing very good football in bowl games. Are some of you so sure an expanded playoff is necessary just because P5 players are too lazy to play hard in bowl games? Make no mistake, an expanded playoff will kill the bowls. But then again, playoff proponents will tell us the joys of watching that one G5 school get the crap kicked out of them by the #1 seed makes it all worth it. Or worse, the athletic directors say the paycheck is worth it.

"J.D. Brookhart, had two winning seasons in the first two years after Owens’ departure (using Owens’ recruits)." While it is true that a second season coach still has some remnants of the previous coach's players, this statement makes it appear as if only Owens'recruits were on the team. It ignores significant contributions from some players Brookhart brought in. It's lazy journalism.

Excellent performance by EMU. MAC holding it's own. More G5 vs G5 please.

Spur of the moment trip yesterday. Great day for a game. Thousands of people got together and enjoyed themselves watching a competitive G5 game. The players enjoyed themselves, the students who came enjoyed themselves, alumni all over the place having fun, fans having fun and I'm sure the game benefited their local communities somehow. Someone needs to explain to me again how bowls are outdated and bad for college football because I just don't get it.

If this guy is declaring for the NFL, so am I.

Miami just lost in what was a great game. Both teams played hard and Miami just came up short. Well played game. More G5 vs G5 please. Less G5 vs P5 blowouts.

It's a good place to start and I'm ok with it. I prefer to think athletics should benefit the athletes, students, alumni, fans and general community around the university.

They are large checks. However, they still don't come close to covering operating costs for G5 schools and mostly the taxpayers pick up the rest. I'm OK with this as long as everyone recognizes G5 athletic departments are actually public services and not businesses.

Peanuts indeed. Peanuts are what G5 games pay for P5 schools. The money is in TV regardless of who is watching. The TV model is not for the fan but the casual football fan.