goodthts Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Q: What happens when you throw to #12? A: He drops the ballQ: What happens when you have a 3-3-5 Def? A: You cannot stop anybodyQ: What happens when you have slow OLB'S? A: The other team's RB's love running outsideQ: What happens when Little RubberBowl Pond arrives? A: Time to go swimmingQ: What will be the final record of the Zips? A: I'm going for either 5-7 or 6-6.Your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 why ask the questions if you have all the answers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 i think it's a rhetorical post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 i think it's a rhetorical post.I know it is... but I found the title a bit offensive to intelligence, since even genuinely rhetorical questions are meant to inspire thought or debate, and I believe that these 'questions' and the supplied answers are meant more to propagandize someone's point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 i think it's a rhetorical post.I know it is... but I found the title a bit offensive to intelligence, since even genuinely rhetorical questions are meant to inspire thought or debate, and I believe that these 'questions' and the supplied answers are meant more to propagandize someone's point of view. At least he had all the right answers to his own questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 this board is full of debbie-downers and petty squabblers...someone ban me before I catch this disease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 this board is full of debbie-downers and petty squabblers...someone ban me before I catch this diseasethis board is also full of people who have so bought into the bs they've been fed the last 5 years that they're completely blind to reality. Luckily that disease is curable.... I was cured in about the middle of '07, hopefully some of you find the cure soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 this board is full of debbie-downers and petty squabblers...someone ban me before I catch this diseasethis board is also full of people who have so bought into the bs they've been fed the last 5 years that they're completely blind to reality. Luckily that disease is curable.... I was cured in about the middle of '07, hopefully some of you find the cure soon.I'm all for people having their opinions... I'm sick of the constant campaigning. I'm ready to leave this place.Why can't we just be fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 this board is full of debbie-downers and petty squabblers...someone ban me before I catch this diseasethis board is also full of people who have so bought into the bs they've been fed the last 5 years that they're completely blind to reality. Luckily that disease is curable.... I was cured in about the middle of '07, hopefully some of you find the cure soon.I'm all for people having their opinions... I'm sick of the constant campaigning. I'm ready to leave this place.Why can't we just be fans?This is a message board. We discuss, argue, whine and talk about the team. This isn't a place to come and just blow smoke or be blind to reality.I don't understand what the problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 this board is full of debbie-downers and petty squabblers...someone ban me before I catch this diseasethis board is also full of people who have so bought into the bs they've been fed the last 5 years that they're completely blind to reality. Luckily that disease is curable.... I was cured in about the middle of '07, hopefully some of you find the cure soon.I'm all for people having their opinions... I'm sick of the constant campaigning. I'm ready to leave this place.Why can't we just be fans?This is a message board. We discuss, argue, whine and talk about the team. This isn't a place to come and just blow smoke or be blind to reality.I don't understand what the problem is.Me neither! SeeTeeZip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottditzen Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 this board is full of debbie-downers and petty squabblers...someone ban me before I catch this diseasethis board is also full of people who have so bought into the bs they've been fed the last 5 years that they're completely blind to reality. Luckily that disease is curable.... I was cured in about the middle of '07, hopefully some of you find the cure soon.I'm all for people having their opinions... I'm sick of the constant campaigning. I'm ready to leave this place.Why can't we just be fans?This is a message board. We discuss, argue, whine and talk about the team. This isn't a place to come and just blow smoke or be blind to reality.I don't understand what the problem is.Me neither! SeeTeeZipHysterical post....but at the same time, a little sad. This was a sad sad football weekend. And I probably would've made the same post if I hadn't waited 2 days to check this board. But hey, It was nice to be at the game with all my friends!!!Yours truly,Rubber Bowl Pond Yacht Club President Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 this board is full of debbie-downers and petty squabblers...someone ban me before I catch this diseasethis board is also full of people who have so bought into the bs they've been fed the last 5 years that they're completely blind to reality. Luckily that disease is curable.... I was cured in about the middle of '07, hopefully some of you find the cure soon.I'm all for people having their opinions... I'm sick of the constant campaigning. I'm ready to leave this place.Why can't we just be fans?This is a message board. We discuss, argue, whine and talk about the team. This isn't a place to come and just blow smoke or be blind to reality.I don't understand what the problem is.Me neither! SeeTeeZipHysterical post....but at the same time, a little sad. This was a sad sad football weekend. And I probably would've made the same post if I hadn't waited 2 days to check this board. But hey, It was nice to be at the game with all my friends!!!Yours truly,Rubber Bowl Pond Yacht Club PresidentLove the sig.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 this board is full of debbie-downers and petty squabblers...someone ban me before I catch this diseasethis board is also full of people who have so bought into the bs they've been fed the last 5 years that they're completely blind to reality. Luckily that disease is curable.... I was cured in about the middle of '07, hopefully some of you find the cure soon.I'm all for people having their opinions... I'm sick of the constant campaigning. I'm ready to leave this place.Why can't we just be fans?This is a message board. We discuss, argue, whine and talk about the team. This isn't a place to come and just blow smoke or be blind to reality.I don't understand what the problem is.Agreed! If we can't bitch, moan, whine, be stupid, contradict ourselves, and well be Zip fan(atics)s HERE, where can we do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 this board is full of debbie-downers and petty squabblers...someone ban me before I catch this diseasethis board is also full of people who have so bought into the bs they've been fed the last 5 years that they're completely blind to reality. Luckily that disease is curable.... I was cured in about the middle of '07, hopefully some of you find the cure soon.I'm all for people having their opinions... I'm sick of the constant campaigning. I'm ready to leave this place.Why can't we just be fans?This is a message board. We discuss, argue, whine and talk about the team. This isn't a place to come and just blow smoke or be blind to reality.I don't understand what the problem is.Agreed! If we can't bitch, moan, whine, be stupid, contradict ourselves, and well be Zip fan(atics)s HERE, where can we do it?Perhaps the Richfield Colisseum..(sp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 this board is full of debbie-downers and petty squabblers...someone ban me before I catch this diseasethis board is also full of people who have so bought into the bs they've been fed the last 5 years that they're completely blind to reality. Luckily that disease is curable.... I was cured in about the middle of '07, hopefully some of you find the cure soon.I'm all for people having their opinions... I'm sick of the constant campaigning. I'm ready to leave this place.Why can't we just be fans?This is a message board. We discuss, argue, whine and talk about the team. This isn't a place to come and just blow smoke or be blind to reality.I don't understand what the problem is.Agreed! If we can't bitch, moan, whine, be stupid, contradict ourselves, and well be Zip fan(atics)s HERE, where can we do it?Perhaps the Richfield Colisseum..(sp) Or the Rubber Bowl (in 2009) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyAlum Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Ok, here's MY campaign.Dear Coach Moorhead, 1) Please don't abandon the running game. Even with the "golden boy" hurt you still have many good backs. At Syracuse when we were able to run the ball there was less pressure on Jac. If your 90th run up the middle doesn't work put in your fullback (who no longer exists apparently) to block. Tuzze was the #2 back after camp and now we never see him. I know he was hurt but he's back. (and no I'm not related to him) Army probably doesn't plan on seeing him either. 2) Find your tight end! (hmm, that sounds weird) Was Poindexter even at the BS game??? 3) Throw out of the backfield. I loved the play with Bruce catching some passes out of the backfield. How about a double back set where you throw to your rb or (heaven forbid) the fb? 4) Don't we ever sub during a series? It's like ok---Johnson is in for this series---it's his TURN. MIX IT UP! Keep them guessing. 5) Does Jac have broken legs that HE can't run the ball once in a while? I even saw Sanchez block on one play in a game not to be mentioned. Imagine that, a quarterback who is expected to do something besides hand off or drop back and pass.Dear Coach Fleming, 1) You know we're banged up on defense--sub, sub, sub. Keep these guys as fresh as you can. Play them all! Hell, some people are calling for you to put in one of the cheerleaders but I think that's taking it a little too far. 2) If you need guys on defense--keep them there. We have enough weapons on offense to get the job done and we're not as injured there. 3) Find a leader even if it has to be a walk-on. (that's for you buckZIP) 4) Just because we're in love with the pass don't think all the teams we play are. Protect against the run!Ok, now I feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozips19 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 2) Find your tight end! (hmm, that sounds weird) Was Poindexter even at the BS game???sure was, he dropped a touchdown with no one around him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 i think it's a rhetorical post.I know it is... but I found the title a bit offensive to intelligence, since even genuinely rhetorical questions are meant to inspire thought or debate, and I believe that these 'questions' and the supplied answers are meant more to propagandize someone's point of view. so correct grasshopper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd&twenty Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Ok, here's MY campaign.Dear Coach Moorhead, 1) Please don't abandon the running game. Even with the "golden boy" hurt you still have many good backs. At Syracuse when we were able to run the ball there was less pressure on Jac. If your 90th run up the middle doesn't work put in your fullback (who no longer exists apparently) to block. Tuzze was the #2 back after camp and now we never see him. I know he was hurt but he's back. (and no I'm not related to him) Army probably doesn't plan on seeing him either. 2) Find your tight end! (hmm, that sounds weird) Was Poindexter even at the BS game??? 3) Throw out of the backfield. I loved the play with Bruce catching some passes out of the backfield. How about a double back set where you throw to your rb or (heaven forbid) the fb? 4) Don't we ever sub during a series? It's like ok---Johnson is in for this series---it's his TURN. MIX IT UP! Keep them guessing. 5) Does Jac have broken legs that HE can't run the ball once in a while? I even saw Sanchez block on one play in a game not to be mentioned. Imagine that, a quarterback who is expected to do something besides hand off or drop back and pass.Dear Coach Fleming, 1) You know we're banged up on defense--sub, sub, sub. Keep these guys as fresh as you can. Play them all! Hell, some people are calling for you to put in one of the cheerleaders but I think that's taking it a little too far. 2) If you need guys on defense--keep them there. We have enough weapons on offense to get the job done and we're not as injured there. 3) Find a leader even if it has to be a walk-on. (that's for you buckZIP) 4) Just because we're in love with the pass don't think all the teams we play are. Protect against the run!Ok, now I feel better.Addition to #5) The bootleg, QB option, scramble are all there for him. He doesn't have to do it every time, but like you said, at least once in a while. It may not be pretty, but it could occasionally gain some good yardage.6) Try to teach Jac NOT to look at his primary as soon as the ball is snapped. Everyone in the stadium knows who he's going to throw to. I'm sure the opposition does as well. Look around a bit more.Coach Fleming,5) Have the CB's move up on the receivers a few yards. The 10 yard cushions consistently yield at least that.OK, there's my post for the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 5) Have the CB's move up on the receivers a few yards. The 10 yard cushions consistently yield at least that. They are there for a purpose, once the RB runs through the porous 6, the CB's have to come over to help the safety 10+ yards down field to get the drag tackle. That's our scheme, 3-3-5! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Ok, here's MY campaign.Dear Coach Moorhead, 1) Please don't abandon the running game. Even with the "golden boy" hurt you still have many good backs. At Syracuse when we were able to run the ball there was less pressure on Jac. If your 90th run up the middle doesn't work put in your fullback (who no longer exists apparently) to block. Tuzze was the #2 back after camp and now we never see him. I know he was hurt but he's back. (and no I'm not related to him) Army probably doesn't plan on seeing him either. 2) Find your tight end! (hmm, that sounds weird) Was Poindexter even at the BS game??? 3) Throw out of the backfield. I loved the play with Bruce catching some passes out of the backfield. How about a double back set where you throw to your rb or (heaven forbid) the fb? 4) Don't we ever sub during a series? It's like ok---Johnson is in for this series---it's his TURN. MIX IT UP! Keep them guessing. 5) Does Jac have broken legs that HE can't run the ball once in a while? I even saw Sanchez block on one play in a game not to be mentioned. Imagine that, a quarterback who is expected to do something besides hand off or drop back and pass.Dear Coach Fleming, 1) You know we're banged up on defense--sub, sub, sub. Keep these guys as fresh as you can. Play them all! Hell, some people are calling for you to put in one of the cheerleaders but I think that's taking it a little too far. 2) If you need guys on defense--keep them there. We have enough weapons on offense to get the job done and we're not as injured there. 3) Find a leader even if it has to be a walk-on. (that's for you buckZIP) 4) Just because we're in love with the pass don't think all the teams we play are. Protect against the run!Ok, now I feel better.Thanks Alum. I appreciate you thinking of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 coach flemming plase start doing some stunts with the d-line.we play the same basic d-line all the time.stand straight up over your offensive lineman, and blown five yeards off the ball.how about some twist wiht the d-line sometime,anytime at all. would be nice sack the qb blitizing 8 guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 coach flemming plase start doing some stunts with the d-line.we play the same basic d-line all the time.stand straight up over your offensive lineman, and blown five yeards off the ball.how about some twist wiht the d-line sometime,anytime at all. would be nice sack the qb blitizing 8 guys.A stunt with a three man line is almost impossible because a QB could scramble 10 yards down field with the hole it creates. Stunts create a deception. Deception is created in the 3-3-5 defense with blitzing. I don't like it either, but that's just the cards they are playing with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 gp sorry about that.i should have been more clear.you can twist your lineman and linebackers.the lineman can slant down,and the linebacker goes the other way.i know it's alott more difficult in a 3-3-5.i just would like to see something different from our d-line than the straight ahead approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyAlum Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Some of you guys are gonna be very happy this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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