InTheZone Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Unless we start dominating the MAC with our new facilities and get into a better conference, we'll never really "compete" with OSU for anything. Any recruit we brought in this year, OSU could've had them if they wanted them, and that's just a reality. The only time that might be an exception is when we start seeing kids who's dad's played at Akron wanting to come here and follow in their footsteps, and we've never really seen that to this date.We just don't really have the fan support and tradition to compete with OSU as a mid-major. It does happen in other places, for example ECU competes with the ACC Carolina schools for recruits, Memphis competes with Tennesee, Southern Miss competes with Miss St and Ole Miss, and TCU competes with a lot of the Texas BCSers for recruits, but that just simply isn't the case here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00t Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Bain was never offered by OSU, Johnson spurned OSU for Miami FL and tallied only 35 carries there in three years (hence, OSU wasn't interested in him when he xfered to Akron), Torrence and Kennedy had scholarships pulled by OSU and then landed at Akron.CK understands what I'm getting at... there are no football players who have had an offer on the table from OSU and thumbed their nose at it to come to Akron. That's not really a competition, it's more just wishing we had some of their players. And we do, how great would it have been if Chris Wells would have stayed home? Maybe we will someday, but in the meantime, who are we trying to kid? I really think OSU gets used as a convenient scapegoat for our program's shortcomings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippysgotagun Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I spurned an offer for any D-I school in the country for Akron when I played NCAA 09 for the PS2. Does that count?Seriously though. CK and w00t are right. It's both good and bad to be in talent rich Ohio. OSU gets the premium talent, but even the second tier here in the state can make an impact at UA. The key is keep winning. Winners attract winning athletes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyboy Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 OSU gets another QB, looks like nicely is safe and they wont tryt o steal him away from us.Kenny Guiton and his father are supposed to visit Columbus on Saturday, but according to Guiton's high school coach, Ray Evans, Guiton has already given an oral commitment to Ohio State' 2009 recruiting class.How did the Buckeyes wind up with a quarterback they started checking out on Wednesday?Ray Evans, Guiton's high school coach at Eisenhower High in Houston, said Guiton was being recruited by several schools, including Rice, Kansas, and Iowa State. Evans said Guiton chose to wait on making a decision, and then some of his offers started to evaporate as those schools received pledges from other quarterbacks. By Christmas, Evans said Guiton's only remaining offer was from Kansas State, and he said that changed after a new offensive coordinator was brought in there.So by this weekend, Guiton was supposed to visit Wyoming. And Army and Air Force were interested, but Evans said Guiton didn't want to go to a military school.And then on Wednesday, Ohio State recruiting coordinator John Peterson arrived in Houston.On Tuesday, Ohio State found out five-star quarterback recruit Tajh Boyd had chosen Clemson over the Buckeyes. Tuesday night, two-star quarterback Austin Boucher was offered and by Wednesday afternoon, he had decided to turn down the Buckeyes.And then there was Guiton. Evans said Peterson procured a DVD of Guiton highlights and promised a quick decision."(Thursday) right after school, I spoke with Coach Peterson on the phone and he said it looked like a thumbs up with the quarterbacks coach," Evans said. "He said the only one he was waiting on was the head coach. And then they called back about an hour later and made the offer."Evans said Guiton accepted that offer on Thursday.More to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdt1420 Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 This just in: Guiton is now a 17 star on Rivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreal1scout Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 This just in: Guiton is now a 17 star on Rivalsyea - But Does He Got Monster Hands! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 This just in: Guiton is now a 17 star on Rivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Desperate Tressel (the guy that's one pass interference call away from being John Cooper) Searching the MAC for a QB. Is Nicely Next?Not to defend anything, but the pass interference penalty was real. The cheap shot Will Allen took on McGahee in the fourth quarter taking him out of the game was the reall play that won it for OSU.Tressel plays a hefty dose of MAC teams every year. Why shouldn't he be recruiting MAC players . Hell, before too long, the Big Ten will be just as bad as the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 The Big Ten is the worst conference of the BCS 6. Btw, did you see the bowl results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 The Big Ten is the worst conference of the BCS 6. Btw, did you see the bowl results. This is now a little off-topic, but something is definitely wrong with midwest football. Our teams are slow and boring to watch. The Big 11 is even more painful to watch than the MAC, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 The Big Ten is the worst conference of the BCS 6. Btw, did you see the bowl results. This is now a little off-topic, but something is definitely wrong with midwest football. Our teams are slow and boring to watch. The Big 11 is even more painful to watch than the MAC, IMHO.Even though I am partially an OSU fan, I WILL agree to that. Considering the amount of talent that comes out of this area, youd think the entire conference would be better, but either a. the talent is being recruited out of this region to the the South and West, or B. the talent is being recruited locally, but the systems they are playing in flat-out don't work.It should be noted, however, that the OSU/Texas bowl game this year was a very close game throughout, even though everyone figured Texas would just entirely dismantle OSU. Considering that Texas was the other team that really had a legit chance to go to the national championship last year, had they not been snubbed out of the Big12 championship, I would say OSU held their own against a far superior team, unlike Penn State... Alas, this isnt relevant, so I will shut up now. But yes, I would much rather watch a MAC game than a Big10 game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 The Big Ten is the worst conference of the BCS 6. Btw, did you see the bowl results. I agree with that. The B10 has looked pretty bad lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 The Big Ten is the worst conference of the BCS 6. Btw, did you see the bowl results. This is now a little off-topic, but something is definitely wrong with midwest football. Our teams are slow and boring to watch. The Big 11 is even more painful to watch than the MAC, IMHO.Even though I am partially an OSU fan, I WILL agree to that. Considering the amount of talent that comes out of this area, youd think the entire conference would be better, but either a. the talent is being recruited out of this region to the the South and West, or B. the talent is being recruited locally, but the systems they are playing in flat-out don't work.It should be noted, however, that the OSU/Texas bowl game this year was a very close game throughout, even though everyone figured Texas would just entirely dismantle OSU. Considering that Texas was the other team that really had a legit chance to go to the national championship last year, had they not been snubbed out of the Big12 championship, I would say OSU held their own against a far superior team, unlike Penn State... Alas, this isnt relevant, so I will shut up now. But yes, I would much rather watch a MAC game than a Big10 game.I think there is a third possibility; let's call it "c" for consistency. Perhaps Ohio and much of the Midwest, while still a "decent" region for prospects, isn't the "hotbed" it once was. It's a simple case of demographics IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 The Big Ten is the worst conference of the BCS 6. Btw, did you see the bowl results. This is now a little off-topic, but something is definitely wrong with midwest football. Our teams are slow and boring to watch. The Big 11 is even more painful to watch than the MAC, IMHO.Even though I am partially an OSU fan, I WILL agree to that. Considering the amount of talent that comes out of this area, youd think the entire conference would be better, but either a. the talent is being recruited out of this region to the the South and West, or B. the talent is being recruited locally, but the systems they are playing in flat-out don't work.It should be noted, however, that the OSU/Texas bowl game this year was a very close game throughout, even though everyone figured Texas would just entirely dismantle OSU. Considering that Texas was the other team that really had a legit chance to go to the national championship last year, had they not been snubbed out of the Big12 championship, I would say OSU held their own against a far superior team, unlike Penn State... Alas, this isnt relevant, so I will shut up now. But yes, I would much rather watch a MAC game than a Big10 game.I think there is a third possibility; let's call it "c" for consistency. Perhaps Ohio and much of the Midwest, while still a "decent" region for prospects, isn't the "hotbed" it once was. It's a simple case of demographics IMHO.I'm absolutely convinced it is demographics. As people move from the midwest, there are fewer people with children high school football age and younger compared to other regions. Pretty soon, all that will be left in the mw are nursing homes as young people flee for opportunity other places.I've said it before and I'll say it again. HS football in Ohio is a shell of what it used to be. In a lot of areas of the country, there is spring football for high school. The kids are finely tuned by the time fall comes around and they have a lot more experience and coaching under their belts when they graduate HS.There is a trickle down effect here. As the Big Ten gets worse, so does the MAC. 5-6 years ago, both of these conferences were much better than they are now. Basketball is the same way. The key for UofA is to maintain good teams and dirgress slower than the rest of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippysgotagun Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm pretty sure that top to bottom, the big 10 would lay waste to the Big East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm pretty sure that top to bottom, the big 10 would lay waste to the Big East.If it was #1 v#1. #2 v#2 you are probably right.However, I think it would be closer than you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uafan Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Back on subject here....I was surprised the Boucher kid was offered by OSU, but the kid is not the clean whistle he might be perceived as. Nobody mentions here that he had previously commited to OU, but dropped them when he thought he could do better. He didn't want to sit behind a 6'6" 235# soph-to-be at OSU, so he is going to Miami where he will sit behind a 6'6" 235# soph-to-be, Clay Belton. Should have stuck to OU, kid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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