IBleedMACGreen Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I just finished this work and posted on the VanDelay Sports MAC basketball blog entitled "Akron vs Toledo - The Day After." In this post I take a look at the officiating of last night's game which included 62 fouls and 88 free throws. Your comments and thoughts are welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Its not just in the tourney, but all year. Refs have been horrible all season, calling fouls so often a basketball game approaches football in terms of how long the game took. I agree that the game wasn't overly physical and warranted those fouls. The refs just kept calling fouls. Its getting to the point where any momentum that a team gets through a steal/blocked shot/etc. gets negated by some stupid foul. They are just taking the wind out of the teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBleedMACGreen Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Its not just in the tourney, but all year. Refs have been horrible all season, calling fouls so often a basketball game approaches football in terms of how long the game took. I agree that the game wasn't overly physical and warranted those fouls. The refs just kept calling fouls. Its getting to the point where any momentum that a team gets through a steal/blocked shot/etc. gets negated by some stupid foul. They are just taking the wind out of the teams.They're taking the game out of the hands of the players. I don't know a single person who has ever gone to a game excited to see the referees in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 They're taking the game out of the hands of the players. I don't know a single person who has ever gone to a game excited to see the referees in action.Exactly. Not only that, kids now have to constantly be aware where every inch of their body is in fear of being called for a foul. Its as if just touching an opponent warrants a foul. Let the kids just play the game and only call a foul where absolutely necessary. It'll make everyone happier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 comments and thoughtsTypical. As a Zips fan, I have given up complaining about the refs. How much energy can one put into it over the years? Just expect it.I look forward to the days when we have enough talent that the refs won't be able to be a factor in our (MAC) games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip37 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hey Van, perplexed looks on MAC personnell? I'm not sure they don't look that way all the time. Some of the stuff that goes in in the MAC [on and off the court/field] defy logic and integrity.I would call the office but I'm not sure anybody is at home at anytime of the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Didn't see the game... but to me the quantity of the calls isn't as important as the consistency in callsA block on one side of the floor should never be a charge when the same things happens on the other end... and all too often, I see that very problem and sometimes I just want to swear off watching basketball all-together because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Akron games seem to have more fouls called on both teams than what seems appropriate. Many of our opponents get more fouls called when they're playing us than in any other game, and we average something like 30 fouls per game right along with them.I don't know of any other team in the country that gets both themselves and their opponents treated that way. Sure, more physical teams get more fouls called on them, but to get them called on the other team as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Don't get me going! ;)First of all, that was a well-written and fair critique of the refs. Thank you for the calm and reasoned analysis.Yes, I know that being a ref is not easy, and I would not want to have that thankless job. Yes, I know that refs are like players in the sense that there are a few great ones and a lot of less-than-great ones. We had one great officiating crew at the JAR this year for the WMU game, and this forum was filled with compliments about the great officiating and how pleasurable it was to watch that game. Unfortunately, that's the exception and not the rule.You'd think the MAC would try to get the best officiating for its premier event. I'm sure the MAC official responsible for officiating is in the stands watching, and seeing the same things fans are seeing. What can he possibly think of the performance he saw last night? I'm a Zips fan, but I saw two out of bounds calls go to the Zips when they should have gone to Toledo. I can't say which team "won" the battle of bad calls, but I can surely say that all the fans and players lost from having to live through that chorus of whistle blowing.Neither Akron nor Toledo is a dirty team. The great majority of the fouls were the result of players playing their hearts out and trying to do the best they could within the rules to win the game. Under those circumstances, the line will occasionally be crossed and whistles rightfully blown. But light, incidental contact is unavoidable. Officials should have the judgment to separate the real from the phantoms.What I expect from a great ref, or even just a fair one, is: When in doubt, don't call a phantom. Unfortunately, it seems the only time some MAC refs follow that philosophy is when there's a body lying at Singletary's feet and they once again missed seeing the cleverly disguised sucker punch.I really don't know the answer to this problem. If great refs are as rare as great players, the MAC is not likely to see many of them. So we're pretty much stuck with a bad situation. All we as fans can do is to try to fairly call out bad officiating when we see it and hope the MAC takes some kind of action to improve their product by holding refs accountable for poor performance. Because, ultimately, if the show stinks, fans will start looking for a better show somewhere else, and the MAC loses along with all of the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I won't comment on the officiating, I'll just say that this was a great gut check for our boys and they showed their character by making the plays that were needed to pull it out. My huge concern is the status of Humpty. If he can't go against the sweaters we might be done.Any updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpsjugglerdude Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Humpty said he obviously won't be 100% but he is planning on playing. We will probably see a little more of McNeese tomorrow night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 as long as they continue to toss out players for assault and battery on the court, I won't say too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I thought Toledo played their hearts out last night. Their senior leaders really stepped up for this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip37 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Topper-- so did our senior! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Hilltopper, as I've said many times....I'm still amazed that Toledo didn't utilize their advantage in having guards that could drive to the basket at will during the first game against us. I don't think we'll see another team like that this year, but I hope our coaches took notice for future reference. I'm with Dr. Z on the officiating. It's bad too often, to both team's disadvantage. I stopped with the complaining a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 i'm not going to stop complaining. I'm going to be yelling for all 40 minutes of each game until it gets better. The officiating in the Eastern/Central game was awful as well. It's just a joke how bad they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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