Dr Z Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Is it time to cut back?Akron at 6% right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 I already voted. In fact, Akron is the only team I voted for. The vote counts more that way.By the way, Forde is a paid troll, doing this only to get a reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinZip Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 crushing all MAC schools... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 crushing all MAC schools...Keep voting. We probably won't crack the top 40, but at least we can look light years ahead of the MAC.And if we do manage to crack it, they'll have to talk about us on ESPN! I know we can do it. I've seen the internet voting power of Zipsnation. Remember Zippy! We have until 1PM Tuesday to make our mark.Currently in 73rd place. Next highest MAC team is Bowling Green at 92. VOTE FOR AKRON ONLY TO MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT. If you have a second-favorite team, vote for them, too, but the less teams you vote for, the bigger your vote counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaroo Craig Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 I voted for Akron only. Cant is currently at 0.8% Fourth from the bottom. It is interesting to see how many current BCS schools do not make the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psu1 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I think it may very well be time to cut back or change the system. What is the point of having all the non-bcs conferences? None of those teams have a chance to play for a National Championship. The should just become FCS teams so they actually have something to play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I think it may very well be time to cut back or change the system. What is the point of having all the non-bcs conferences? None of those teams have a chance to play for a National Championship. The should just become FCS teams so they actually have something to play for.OK psu1, up until now things have been pretty civil and reasonable between most of the Zip and Lion fans. And then you, MR. DOUCHEBAG, have the nerve to come onto OUR board and tell us that we have NOTHING to play for and there is no POINT to our struggles. Up yours!!! What an arrogant, foolish, unknowledgable opinion you have spewed. What is a school like UA supposed to do with a $61 million investment in a new stadium if blowhards like you get your wish? Gloves are off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 What is the point of having all the non-bcs conferences?What is the point of the BCS? None of the BCS teams play for a national championship game, either. They just play for a self-appointed BCS championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psu1 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well. you have the MAC championship I guess. But teams from Non-BCS conferences have no shot to play for the National Championship. Look at Utah last year and in 2004. They went undefeated they didn't play for a national championship. Look at all the years Boise went unbeaten, and when Miami Ohio had Ben Rothlisberger and they went undefeated. They didn't play for an NC. I think teams like Utah, and Boise, and Miami (oh) should be able to play for the NC if they go undefeated. But unfortunately the rules of the BCS don't allow it. So I think all non-bcs schools should move to the FCS so they can actually play for a NC, until we get rid of the BCS and move on to a playoff system so everyone has a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well. you have the MAC championship I guess. But teams from Non-BCS conferences have no shot to play for the National Championship. Look at Utah last year and in 2004. They went undefeated they didn't play for a national championship. Look at all the years Boise went unbeaten, and when Miami Ohio had Ben Rothlisberger and they went undefeated. They didn't play for an NC. I think teams like Utah, and Boise, and Miami (oh) should be able to play for the NC if they go undefeated. But unfortunately the rules of the BCS don't allow it. So I think all non-bcs schools should move to the FCS so they can actually play for a NC, until we get rid of the BCS and move on to a playoff system so everyone has a shot.I'll ignore the condescending tone for now, because I'm onto your juvenile games. But I'll ask you this question. Do you mean to tell me that, during seasons in which Penn State is out of the running for the BCS Championship, that the Little 11 Championship means NOTHING to you??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psu1 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 It means a lot because if we do win the big 10 there is a good chance we could play for the National Championship. If you win the MAC you aren't going to play for the National Championship, you are going to play in the International Bowl. Even if you go undefeated which isn't fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 It means a lot because if we do win the big 10 there is a good chance we could play for the National Championship. If you win the MAC you aren't going to play for the National Championship, you are going to play in the International Bowl. Even if you go undefeated which isn't fair.First of all, read the question again. Teacher must have loved writing "read the instructions" all over your test papers.There have been 11 BCS championship games, three of which have had Big 10 representation. 3/11 = 27.3%. Hmmm not so "good" chances in my way of thinking.The MAC champ typically plays in the Motor City (renamed this year?....see other thread), not the International Bowl.Miami was never undefeated with Ben. In 2003 they were ranked #10 at the end of the season, but lost to Iowa in the opener. HAD they gone undefeated, they just might have played in a BCS game (though not the national championship). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psu1 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well thats my mistake I thought they did go unbeaten.Ohio State has played in 2 NC's in the last 3 seasons. But you are missing the point. At least the big 10 has gotten opportunities to play in the NC. Each time OSU went unbeaten they were in the NC. The MAC and all the other Non-BCS schools haven't gotten any opportunities to play in the NC. 27% is better than 0% don't you think? Obviously it means a lot to win a conference championship. It was a great feeling when we won the big 10 last year, but you try to win your conference for a chance to go on and represent your school and your conference in the National Championship. I wish all conference winners played in a playoff for a chance to win it all, unfortunately it doesn't work like that because of the way too subjective BCS system. No one wants to play in Motor City Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 The NCAA has a right to define how intercollegiate athletics are structured since they are the governing body (right or wrong). So they decide exactly what FBS, FCS, etc. need to have as standards to participate in those divisions (and remove those they do not deem worthy). In the same breath, they claim to have the best interest of the student-athlete in mind and yet don't have the balls to say that either it really is only about money and cut off all of the schools that don't make it money or actually make it about the students and have it be like EVERY OTHER sport in the NCAA including FCS football and down. What is so damn special about FBS football that it has to be this way? It's the money, admit it or give everyone the shot they deserve as member institutions at that level. It works great for the NCAA basketball tournament, and for those kids who are students (and not athletes) who have no shot at winning the tournament also have a great experience at it. Do those students not count - should they have a "lesser" college experience simply because their school chooses not to spend enormous sums of money on athletics? That is one of the great things about the NCAA tournament. You can play in a "lesser" conference against schools of your caliber and still get a shot and a fun college experience. Plus the seeding works out well too. The FBS needs a 16 team playoff (11 conferences and 5 at large). I don't care if the MAC ends up with seed 15 or 16, they deserve it just as much as anyone else. The claim that it about protecting the athletes from extra games is just BS. So its fine for the football players in FCS but not FBS? Tell me the difference. And what about teams that rise (and fall)? What about USF? A few years ago they were nobody now they have a shot at a National Title. If they had joined a "lesser" conference, they'd have no shot. Why them and not someone else? How about Miami, FL? Pretty much no football history until Schellenberger, who then went to Louisville and resurrected them and now they have a shot. How about FAU in a few years? That's where he is now. It's ridiculous to think about things as they are now as though they will never change (Washington & Jefferson, a tiny DIII school in PA, played in the Rose Bowl in the 20's). That is such an elitist attitude. Akron has a ton going for it, put it in one of the big 6 and let it go for a few years and it would be right there with everybody else (you think kids don't also get sold on who they play? You bet they do - and the old adage about a rising tide lifts all boats applies here). I think the huge payoff that each of the BCS conferences get might help some too.I read Pat Forde's story and I think he is only half serious, there are some lines where it appears he even thinks it wouldn't be the right thing to do but it's something to talk about. It's just not the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well thats my mistake I thought they did go unbeaten.Ohio State has played in 2 NC's in the last 3 seasons. But you are missing the point. At least the big 10 has gotten opportunities to play in the NC. Each time OSU went unbeaten they were in the NC. The MAC and all the other Non-BCS schools haven't gotten any opportunities to play in the NC. 27% is better than 0% don't you think? Obviously it means a lot to win a conference championship. It was a great feeling when we won the big 10 last year, but you try to win your conference for a chance to go on and represent your school and your conference in the National Championship. I wish all conference winners played in a playoff for a chance to win it all, unfortunately it doesn't work like that because of the way too subjective BCS system. No one wants to play in Motor City Bowl.That must be why approximately 30,000 Akron fans took the trip to Detroit in 2005 Here's a novel idea. There is NOTHING to prevent a team in FBS to voluntarily step down to FCS if they really want the glory of playing for the FCS championship. I wonder why not one single school has chosen to to this? If the current economic conditions make this more attractive to some, so be it. Let THEM decide. One thing is for certain. There is no way The University of Akron will go down to FCS without a legal fight. Dr. Proenza hasn't made the decision to invest $61 million in a facility to play in the FCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 WOW! I didn't realize people at ESPN were reading my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinZip Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 We're movin the wrong direction...4.3%It feels pretty bad to see so many MAC schools at the bottom. It says a lot about the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 That stupid poll's just a popularity contest. ESPN's probably doing it to see what games they should give priority on their network in the future. there's no way that the Big Ten should have three of the top 4 spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I've found that if you are in Internet Explorer and go to Tools>Internet Options and then delete your Temporary Internet Files and Cookies, after each vote, you can vote as many times as you want. I'm sure there's an equivalent option in other browsers. I've voted about 20 times for Akron alone (very bored at work). We're already way above the rest of the MAC, now let's show ESPN the power of Zipsnation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinZip Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Apx Penn State Votes- 85,468Apx Akron Votes- 5,154Apx Can't State Votes-1,558think we can catch up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I think we can break 10,000. I'm bored at work, too, so I'll be working on this. It's so slow here that I might get 1000 in by myself. Let's at least seperate ourselves from the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinZip Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I think we can break 10,000. I'm bored at work, too, so I'll be working on this. It's so slow here that I might get 1000 in by myself. Let's at least seperate ourselves from the MAC.If every person on ZN does only 100 I'll put in my votes. I want a better ESPN game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinZip Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 about 30 votes go in by the time I get mine in....that's you guys right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'm using a crappy IE6 browser here at work, but I discovered this trick where if you simply hit F5 after voting right after clearing your cache, it comes up with an option to resend the information when you refresh. I think this means that it votes every time I refresh. so all I have to do is keep pounding the F5 key and accepting the message.1 vote every 2-3 seconds. If you can figure out to get the same on other browsers, it really cuts down on the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinZip Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'm using a crappy IE6 browser here at work, but I discovered this trick where if you simply hit F5 after voting right after clearing your cache, it comes up with an option to resend the information when you refresh. I think this means that it votes every time I refresh. so all I have to do is keep pounding the F5 key and accepting the message.1 vote every 2-3 seconds. If you can figure out to get the same on other browsers, it really cuts down on the time.well we moved up to 4.3% wooanyone know for sure if this method works? it seems too easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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