johnnyzip84 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 .....as a possibility on our 2009 schedule? It was the South Dakota State Jackrabbits, who had a HUGE win in the tough Missouri Valley over Northern Iowa this past weekend. The link below says it happened on "Hobo Day", which has now become one of my favorite holidays.Big Jackrabbit WinIt's a good thing we decided to play Morgan State instead.Now Northern Iowa's coach was one of my preferred candidates a few weeks ago. Maybe I should include the SDSU coach also. I really hope we look at coaches in both the Missouri Valley and the Atlantic 10. My view is if you can win consistently in those leagues, you ought to be able to win consistently in the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips fan Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I agree that we are going to better off trying to find a I-AA head coach rather than a coordinator at a large I-A school. The A-10 does not offer football, so I would consider going after someone in the CAA which is the strongest I-AA conference currently, maybe the Richmond or Villanova coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I wouldn't limit the search to I-AA but would also look at young (up and coming) Division II and III head coaches who are/have been successful. I remember Dr. Gazetta getting such a man to lead the Zips Men's Basketball team while I was an undergrad at UA in the 1980's.From Wikipedia...(Huggins' Early career)...Huggins was only 27 when he became a collegiate head coach, accepting the position at Walsh University in 1980. In three seasons at Walsh, he compiled a 71-26 record, twice earning NAIA District 22 Coach of the Year honors. Huggins directed the 1982–83 team to a perfect 30-0 regular season mark and an eventual 34-1 mark. After serving as an assistant at University of Central Florida for the 1983-84 season, Huggins was named head coach at the University of Akron where he compiled a 97-46 record and reached post-season play in three of his five seasons there including an NCAA bid during the 1985–1986 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I agree that we are going to better off trying to find a I-AA head coach rather than a coordinator at a large I-A school. The A-10 does not offer football, so I would consider going after someone in the CAA which is the strongest I-AA conference currently, maybe the Richmond or Villanova coach.I stand corrected. I forgot A-10 football decided to go by the name Colonial Athletic Association a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Wuddya mean JZ84? Had we played them we would now be vying for a perfect season! How cool would THAT be? STZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 it's amazing how many of us fans agree on the next hire for hc.i also would hope we would hire a head coach from 1-aainstead of a cordinator.we went that route the last two times and look at the results.i just don't think there is much difference beetween the top teams in 1-aa and the bottom mac teams.we have the best facilities in the mac,and great high school talent in the area.the one thing the admin needs to stop scheduling bcs teams on the road.we have a new stadiumso why not use it? no reason we can't be playing 6-7 home games every year.there is enought talent on this team to get things back on track.depending on who we play next year,and if we get the right coach no reason we can't be 6-6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 If a head coaching change is indeed made don't forget that we have assistants with head coaching experience themselves. You have to wonder if they'd be in the running. Also, the University of Minnesota has a few very highly thought of assistants from what I hear. Where did the new AD come from again?I don't really have a preference which way we'd go in a coaching search whether it be an FCS head guy or FBS assistant. On some good staffs it is really the assistants that make the team what it is moreso than the head guy. If we were to go the asst coach route I'd want one of those types of guys. Other times it is the HC that brings everything together while the assistants would be less than stellar if they were in charge. In a coaching search I don't think you can say you want a guy that is a head coach for sure or say you want a top assistant from somewhere either. I think you have to look at both.That being said, I'm not sold yet that there is going to be a change at all. There are some who think it takes more than one year for a new coaching staff to gel and the Zips made a number of changes this past offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I wouldn't limit the search to I-AA but would also look at young (up and coming) Division II and III head coaches who are/have been successful. I remember Dr. Gazetta getting such a man to lead the Zips Men's Basketball team while I was an undergrad at UA in the 1980's.From Wikipedia...(Huggins' Early career)...Huggins was only 27 when he became a collegiate head coach, accepting the position at Walsh University in 1980. In three seasons at Walsh, he compiled a 71-26 record, twice earning NAIA District 22 Coach of the Year honors. Huggins directed the 1982–83 team to a perfect 30-0 regular season mark and an eventual 34-1 mark. After serving as an assistant at University of Central Florida for the 1983-84 season, Huggins was named head coach at the University of Akron where he compiled a 97-46 record and reached post-season play in three of his five seasons there including an NCAA bid during the 1985–1986 season.Remember something....Huggins was also an assistant at Ohio State and West Virginia before taking the job at Walsh. If you recall, we were also playing in a weaker conference that had much less exposure, and didn't even have 1-A football. Plus, I would regard Bob as a "highly successful" NAIA coach. And he had very, very strong basketball ties in Ohio.I am not disregarding your point, or the possibility of this happening. I'm merely pointing out that, as a D-II or lower level coach, Bob had quite a few other things going for him that made him a good candidate for the job. I don't care if we take a coordinator, or a 1-AA head coach. I just want the best guy. But, I think you have some serious hurdles to overcome in terms of connections, recruiting, etc., if you hire a coach who is not a well-known entity, which can be a big issue with those lower level coaches. Remember, we recruit nationally now...and should have a guy that is known nationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 That being said, I'm not sold yet that there is going to be a change at all. There are some who think it takes more than one year for a new coaching staff to gel and the Zips made a number of changes this past offseason.It isn't about coaches gelling, it's about players playing. Coaches come and go at our level. We need a coach and coaching staff that can take a group of talented players and turn them into winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Urban Meyer is an Ohio guy. I say we make him an offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy_ua_00 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Urban Meyer is an Ohio guy. I say we make him an offer. haha hes already made his run through the mac though, at BG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Urban Meyer is an Ohio guy. I say we make him an offer. haha hes already made his run through the mac though, at BGI know - that's why he's perfect, he knows the conference already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips fan Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I agree that we are going to better off trying to find a I-AA head coach rather than a coordinator at a large I-A school. The A-10 does not offer football, so I would consider going after someone in the CAA which is the strongest I-AA conference currently, maybe the Richmond or Villanova coach.I stand corrected. I forgot A-10 football decided to go by the name Colonial Athletic Association a few years ago.Not trying to be jerking on this but the CAA is not in any way the former A-10 conference. The teams in the CAA are their own conference for all sports. Schools such as James Madison, William and Mary, Richmond, George Mason, and Delaware make up the conference. The A-10 dropped football as a conference. Schools that have programs joined as affliates with other conferences. Currently the CAA is loaded with schools at the top of I-AA(3 in the top 5) and would be a good place to start the search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I agree that we are going to better off trying to find a I-AA head coach rather than a coordinator at a large I-A school. The A-10 does not offer football, so I would consider going after someone in the CAA which is the strongest I-AA conference currently, maybe the Richmond or Villanova coach.I stand corrected. I forgot A-10 football decided to go by the name Colonial Athletic Association a few years ago.Not trying to be jerking on this but the CAA is not in any way the former A-10 conference. The teams in the CAA are their own conference for all sports. Schools such as James Madison, William and Mary, Richmond, George Mason, and Delaware make up the conference. The A-10 dropped football as a conference. Schools that have programs joined as affliates with other conferences. Currently the CAA is loaded with schools at the top of I-AA(3 in the top 5) and would be a good place to start the search.Well you succeeded anyway. IN EFFECT, what I stated is the absolute truth (see wiki link below.....got to A-10 football near the bottom of the link). CAA FOOTBALL is essentially the former A-10 FOOTBALL conference. Perhaps you should do a little research before you open your mouth next time.Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips fan Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I agree that we are going to better off trying to find a I-AA head coach rather than a coordinator at a large I-A school. The A-10 does not offer football, so I would consider going after someone in the CAA which is the strongest I-AA conference currently, maybe the Richmond or Villanova coach.I stand corrected. I forgot A-10 football decided to go by the name Colonial Athletic Association a few years ago.Not trying to be jerking on this but the CAA is not in any way the former A-10 conference. The teams in the CAA are their own conference for all sports. Schools such as James Madison, William and Mary, Richmond, George Mason, and Delaware make up the conference. The A-10 dropped football as a conference. Schools that have programs joined as affliates with other conferences. Currently the CAA is loaded with schools at the top of I-AA(3 in the top 5) and would be a good place to start the search.Well you succeeded anyway. IN EFFECT, what I stated is the absolute truth (see wiki link below.....got to A-10 football near the bottom of the link). CAA FOOTBALL is essentially the former A-10 FOOTBALL conference. Perhaps you should do a little research before you open your mouth next time.LinkAlright, this will be my last post on this topic because it is not relative to Zips stuff at all. The only member of the A-10, that is affiliated with the CAA for football is Richmond. The rest of the schools play in a conference like the MAC does. Temple is affliated with the MAC in football, yet remains an A-10 member. So the MAC has as many A-10 teams as the CAA does. Some of the CAA schools played in the A-10 before the conference sponsored football. This does not make it the former A-10 football conference. The CAA sponsored football and its full time conference members decided to played in their own conference. The A-10 folded their sponsorship of football, not renamed it after an existing conference.Dumb points, Dumb arguement! Go Zips!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I agree that we are going to better off trying to find a I-AA head coach rather than a coordinator at a large I-A school. The A-10 does not offer football, so I would consider going after someone in the CAA which is the strongest I-AA conference currently, maybe the Richmond or Villanova coach.I stand corrected. I forgot A-10 football decided to go by the name Colonial Athletic Association a few years ago.Not trying to be jerking on this but the CAA is not in any way the former A-10 conference. The teams in the CAA are their own conference for all sports. Schools such as James Madison, William and Mary, Richmond, George Mason, and Delaware make up the conference. The A-10 dropped football as a conference. Schools that have programs joined as affliates with other conferences. Currently the CAA is loaded with schools at the top of I-AA(3 in the top 5) and would be a good place to start the search.Well you succeeded anyway. IN EFFECT, what I stated is the absolute truth (see wiki link below.....got to A-10 football near the bottom of the link). CAA FOOTBALL is essentially the former A-10 FOOTBALL conference. Perhaps you should do a little research before you open your mouth next time.LinkJohnny, Johnny, Johnny.You can't believe everything you read on the Internet. That's how World War I got started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I agree that we are going to better off trying to find a I-AA head coach rather than a coordinator at a large I-A school. The A-10 does not offer football, so I would consider going after someone in the CAA which is the strongest I-AA conference currently, maybe the Richmond or Villanova coach.I stand corrected. I forgot A-10 football decided to go by the name Colonial Athletic Association a few years ago.Not trying to be jerking on this but the CAA is not in any way the former A-10 conference. The teams in the CAA are their own conference for all sports. Schools such as James Madison, William and Mary, Richmond, George Mason, and Delaware make up the conference. The A-10 dropped football as a conference. Schools that have programs joined as affliates with other conferences. Currently the CAA is loaded with schools at the top of I-AA(3 in the top 5) and would be a good place to start the search.Well you succeeded anyway. IN EFFECT, what I stated is the absolute truth (see wiki link below.....got to A-10 football near the bottom of the link). CAA FOOTBALL is essentially the former A-10 FOOTBALL conference. Perhaps you should do a little research before you open your mouth next time.LinkJohnny, Johnny, Johnny.You can't believe everything you read on the Internet. That's how World War I got started. Zipmeister, I will agree with you in a sense. I get in a LOT of trouble when I actually take the time to READ the links that people post on here. Like, for instance, page 8 of the following link. I think it may have been written by Al Gore Bill and Mary Season 2007 Preview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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