RootforRoo44 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 LINK Pretty interesting stuff, Pete Carroll makes a fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 LINK Pretty interesting stuff, Pete Carroll makes a fortune.Interesting stuff for sureAl Golden makes the most in the MAC... JD makes the second least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 If Akron wants to attract a successful coach, they'll have to pony up more than they do now. 300k puts us at an average MAC coaching salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 If Akron wants to attract a successful coach, they'll have to pony up more than they do now. 300k puts us at an average MAC coaching salary.Why do that? Unsuccessful ones are a lot cheaper. And, they have a lot of "upside." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 It will make for a rare bit of lunacy from President Proenza and the UA board if they were willing to pour big money into the new facilities but aren't willing to pay a solid coaching staff enough to attract better than we've had. The amount that the next head coach is contracted for will say a LOT about UA's long-term plans for the football program. Oh, and before anybody even THINKS about suggesting that JD could be retained after beating a pathetic Can't State team for his only D-1 victory in a year, just stop it. He stinks. He's gotta go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted November 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Lou Holtz TW, LOU HOLTZZZZZ!!! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Lou Holtz TW, LOU HOLTZZZZZ!!! hahaDR. LOU!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Assume you are in Wistrscill's shoes. If you have an extra $20Millions to spend over then next years, would you give a huge contract to a new football coach and his assistants? or would you upgrade the soccer field and increase its seating capacity? or would you build a new arena?How much money was invested in football over the last 5 years? isn't time to give some attention to other sports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Lou Holtz TW, LOU HOLTZZZZZ!!! hahaDR. LOU!!!Lou looks like he is groping the breasts of a large eastern European woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Assume you are in Wistrscill's shoes. If you have an extra $20Millions to spend over then next years, would you give a huge contract to a new football coach and his assistants? or would you upgrade the soccer field and increase its seating capacity? or would you build a new arena?How much money was invested in football over the last 5 years? isn't time to give some attention to other sports?All of that investment made in the football program is wasted without the right people running the program. The other sports rightly deserve their upgrades, no doubt, and from a purely merit-based standpoint the footballers should be playing at Hardesty Park and the futbolers should be at the Info. However, the money maker in college sports is football, and UA has prepped the battlefield for a solid program. We need a field general now to take us where we need to be. KD and Caleb will get theirs, but will then be that much better off when the football team isn't a complete embarassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Assume you are in Wistrscill's shoes. If you have an extra $20Millions to spend over then next years, would you give a huge contract to a new football coach and his assistants? or would you upgrade the soccer field and increase its seating capacity? or would you build a new arena?How much money was invested in football over the last 5 years? isn't time to give some attention to other sports?correct me if I am wrong, but isnt the funding for the new soccer stadium already in place? According to this post by g-mann17, the money was already given to design and begin the first phase at least. I could be wrong though.The arena is still years down the road from here, so I wouldnt see that as being a major financial burden any time soon. As STZ pointed out, we have already invested $60+ million into the football team and we need someone here to provide a product that will return on that investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Football funds every sport but basketball. If Football is successful, the other sports get a shot in the arm when it comes to funding.If football is not successful, every sport suffers. It has to be the #1 priority at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Football funds every sport but basketball. If Football is successful, the other sports get a shot in the arm when it comes to funding.If football is not successful, every sport suffers. It has to be the #1 priority at this level.Wrong again padre. I'd say our basketball team, soccer team, and track teams are doing fine with one of the worst football teams in the country. Football is a huge financial drain for schools like Akron who don't draw like Big Ten teams, and it will be even more so once Akron drops big money on its next coach. That's why non-football playing basketball schools kick our butts in this conference because all the $$ brought in from student fees go to the basketball program. Akron's main revenue stream is the student fees and it is divided among sports. However, the reality of the animal is a ranked football team will increase our profile and build up our fan base in the long run way more than a soccer team with a national title. But you be right on one thing. We need to win in football.....bottom line. What impresses me about the soccer team though is that they are managing to keep the students and fan base interested in Akron athletics while our football team has been laying an egg. That's huge and with bball season started nobody will even remember football season . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Zipsbandman,You said, "That's why non-football playing schools kick our butts in this conference." Am I missing something obvious? Who are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Zipsbandman,You said, "That's why non-football playing schools kick our butts in this conference." Am I missing something obvious? Who are you referring to?I was referring to the Horizon conference and some of the atlantic ten schools that have no football. Their basketball programs are superior to MAC schools because that is their focus. I was trying to say that football isn't a money maker and requires funding to be successful and sometimes it can take away from other programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Zipsbandman,You said, "That's why non-football playing schools kick our butts in this conference." Am I missing something obvious? Who are you referring to?I was referring to the Horizon conference and some of the atlantic ten schools that have no football. Their basketball programs are superior to MAC schools because that is their focus. I was trying to say that football isn't a money maker and requires funding to be successful and sometimes it can take away from other programs.Look at the financial numbers from this Zips home football season and tell me if MAC football can or cannot make money.The football team drew 21,000 fans for the K.e.n.t. game. It takes the soccer team 12 matches to equal that, and the basketball team...probably 9 games. A 2-7 team drew 21,000 fans on campus. The cheapest standard ticket was $20.00. Fans in loges and reserved seating paid a lot more. Those fans were also lined-up buying food, drinks, gear, paying for parking...the works. Football can make money at UA. That's why the stadium was built. Proenza isn't stupid.Can UA follow up this season with 18k+ crowds in the future? Sure - if we are committed to winning.I went to a YSU game 2 weeks ago. I'll estimate the actual attendance at 5,000. About 1/3 what they used to average only 5 years ago. If UA gets lazy, or loses it's commitment to winning, attendance will erode.Regarding the "Football/Basketball" schools vs. "Basketball-only" Schools -That's baloney. There are 100 "Basketball-only" schools that are worse than the Zips. And plenty of "Football/Basketball" schools that have equivalent, or better programs than Akron. The only thing that matters is your school's commitment to winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyTuba11 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I agree with CK.The $$$ coming in for a 2-7 football team is amazing. Pony up 300k or more and get a good coach that gets us winning records and bowl games, and suddenly we have a huge cash flow that soccer and basketball cannot get us, even with new facilities. The huge new cash flow then can go to building a stadium and arena which in turn will get us more and more money.It starts with the football program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofan Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I agree with CK.The $$$ coming in for a 2-7 football team is amazing. Pony up 300k or more and get a good coach that gets us winning records and bowl games, and suddenly we have a huge cash flow that soccer and basketball cannot get us, even with new facilities. The huge new cash flow then can go to building a stadium and arena which in turn will get us more and more money.It starts with the football program.Good points!! Add in zips merchandise if and when gift shop is finished and merchandise offerings are expanded and my guess is well quadruple the best revenue UA football has ever seen. My question is this........ Who canclarify status of JD's contract. I was under impression it ended this year. But Elton Alexander says he has one year left. Thats a lot to payoff if we indeed hire someone at @300K. Weve done it before ( Gerry Faust,Dan Hipscher)but can we afford to do it after nov 27th?? Can we afford to not do it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyTuba11 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 The way I see it, we need about 500k to 600k for next year. 200k to buy out JD and 300k - 400k to get somebody better. Something tells me this isn't an astronomical figure, considering how much they spent on the stadium. They know who the big donors are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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