Captain Kangaroo Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Just some another name to throw out there:Shawn Watson, Offensive Coordinator, Nebraskasomebody on another site suggested Glen Mason...might be a good guess...mr. wistrcill comes from minnesota...he obviously made the decision to dimiss the previous regime weeks ago,he stated he doesn't want a 'rebuilding' process,enough talent is there now...it at least appears he already had some people in mind he thought he could get fairly quickly so that recruiting doesn't take too much of a hit...Wasn't Wistrcill also part of the regime that fired Mason? Why would he bring him back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Sources tell FootballCoachScoop that Athletic Director Tom Wistrcill is very interested in talking with Luke Fickell (Ohio State Co-Defensive Cooridantor/Linebacker Coach), Ron Vanderlinden (Penn State Linebacker Coach/Former Maryland HC), Scot Loeffler (Florida Quarterbacks Coach), Paul Chryst (Wisconsin Offensive Coordinator), Paul Winters (Wayne State Head Coach), Don Treadwell (Michigan State Offensive Coordinator) and Mark Snyder (Marshall Head Coach).Here is the source on that info. It's under Saturday, November 28, 2009, you have to page down to see it. Listed under Akron.Luke Fickell BioRon Vanderlinden BioScot (with one t) Loeffler BioPaul Chryst BioPaul Winters Bio (for those of you not familar)Don Treadwell BioMark Snyder BioI think we have a good idea of the type of person Tom is looking to hire from this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I think we have a good idea of the type of person Tom is looking to hire from this list.I don't see anyone on that list besides Winters that strikes me as a coach who would be successful next season. They all seem like the people who would try to blow up the program and start from scratch trying to bring in "their system" with "their players". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I don't see anyone on that list besides Winters that strikes me as a coach who would be successful next season. They all seem like the people who would try to blow up the program and start from scratch trying to bring in "their system" with "their players". I would LOVE to have your thought process on how you come to that conclusion!?! Can you please explain for each candidate? BTW, four years from now, the new coach will have all of "their players" no matter who it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I think we have a good idea of the type of person Tom is looking to hire from this list.I don't see anyone on that list besides Winters that strikes me as a coach who would be successful next season. They all seem like the people who would try to blow up the program and start from scratch trying to bring in "their system" with "their players".Are you again starting to repeat stuff overheard from stadium usher interns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Big err Medium Ten football is now officially one step above the ACC.Way too many coaches from that conference listed on the list for my liking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I don't see anyone on that list besides Winters that strikes me as a coach who would be successful next season. They all seem like the people who would try to blow up the program and start from scratch trying to bring in "their system" with "their players". I would LOVE to have your thought process on how you come to that conclusion!?! Can you please explain for each candidate? BTW, four years from now, the new coach will have all of "their players" no matter who it is.Just my feelings. I just get the feeling that they'll try to put something in place that we don't have the personell for, and we'll get the line that the program has to be "built" in order for it to be successful like it was at their previous school. Plus they always focus too much on one side of the ball, whatever side they were coaching before, and then hire a coordinator that essentially becomes a second head coach for the other side of the ball. I don't see that happening if you go after a successful head coach at a smaller school because they've already gone through the "learning experience" phase and can handle managing an entire team and not just one side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Big err Medium Ten football is now officially one step above the ACC.Way too many coaches from that conference listed on the list for my liking...As a season ticket holder for an ACC school, I can say that the Big Ten is below the ACC.......and the ACC ain't all that good and the Big Ten is terrible.We'll see what tOSU has in the Rose Bowl, but I don't think they could win against GA Tech, Clemson or maybe even VA Tech. Hell, they lost to Purdue.The Big Ten is a second tier conference.BTW, if Luke F is interested (He would be better off waiting for Tressel to retire) I would be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldZipFan Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Another one to consider is...Bob Diaco defensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bearcats.The Bearcats lost 10 defensive starters from last year, and their still undefeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I don't see anyone on that list besides Winters that strikes me as a coach who would be successful next season. They all seem like the people who would try to blow up the program and start from scratch trying to bring in "their system" with "their players". I would LOVE to have your thought process on how you come to that conclusion!?! Can you please explain for each candidate? BTW, four years from now, the new coach will have all of "their players" no matter who it is.Just my feelings. I just get the feeling that they'll try to put something in place that we don't have the personell for, and we'll get the line that the program has to be "built" in order for it to be successful like it was at their previous school. Plus they always focus too much on one side of the ball, whatever side they were coaching before, and then hire a coordinator that essentially becomes a second head coach for the other side of the ball. I don't see that happening if you go after a successful head coach at a smaller school because they've already gone through the "learning experience" phase and can handle managing an entire team and not just one side of it.Not to disrespect Winters, but, how is considered a "successful" coach? (he has done a good job of turning around the program)But he has yet to win anything other than 3rd place in a Division 2 league with a school located in Detroit where there should be a ton of talent available for the DII level?The last 3 years he has had 6 wins, 3 wins, and 6 wins, that doesn't speak consistency to me. We really don't need that right now. Also if i'm not mistaken, the last "coordinator that wanted his own system and had to rebuild" had us bowl eligible his first year and MAC champs the second. I just don't see Winters getting it done here, it took him 5 years to win at the DII level, he is the one that would have problems achieving "immediate success". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I have been talking up Chryst and Fickell since late September/early October when it seemed obvious JD was not going to get it done. I think Kragthorpe is worth considering since he did have a lot of success BEFORE Louisville, though I like Chryst and Fickell more based on Midwestern ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zff Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 This was just posted on Footballscoop.com Mitch has been mentioned before.He was my first thought. Browning interviewed when JD was hired.Akron: We are hearing that Akron AD Tom Wistrcill is very close with Tennessee offensive GA Mitch Browning. Wistrcill as an associate AD at Minnesota when Browing served as the OC for the Gophers under Glen Mason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 If you are an OSU hater, put that aside for a moment. Fickell would make so much sense:He would most likely bring in a 4-3 DHe would be a big help to the young LBs, especially Wagner and hopefully HooblerHe would DRASTICALLY clean-up the special teams.He would bring in the d & st of "Tresselball", but b/c of his youth and playing with Cooper teams, very well will look at a downfield passing attack in an I-formation (along with some of the newer spread and Wildcat trends).His buddy, Mike Vrabel, might be ready to retire soon= would be a nice get as LB or DL coach.He might just stay here 5-6 years and wait out Tressel at OSU (who some have said will move to AD role in about 5 to 6 years).I think he makes all the sense in the world when you look at the big picture of D, ST, developing a different attitude, having Midwest roots, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 His buddy, Mike Vrabel, might be ready to retire soon= would be a nice get as LB or DL coach.He might just stay here 5-6 years and wait out Tressel at OSU (who some have said will move to AD role in about 5 to 6 years).You assume Vrabel wants to coach.If Tressel is going to retire in 5-6 years, the safe bet for LF would be to stay there as DC and take over as HC if he can get the job. There is much more risk in taking the Akron job than waiting out Tressel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA Fan Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 This was just posted on Footballscoop.com Mitch has been mentioned before.He was my first thought. Browning interviewed when JD was hired.Akron: We are hearing that Akron AD Tom Wistrcill is very close with Tennessee offensive GA Mitch Browning. Wistrcill as an associate AD at Minnesota when Browing served as the OC for the Gophers under Glen Mason.What is "offensive GA" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 This was just posted on Footballscoop.com Mitch has been mentioned before.He was my first thought. Browning interviewed when JD was hired.Akron: We are hearing that Akron AD Tom Wistrcill is very close with Tennessee offensive GA Mitch Browning. Wistrcill as an associate AD at Minnesota when Browing served as the OC for the Gophers under Glen Mason.What is "offensive GA" ? Check here for your answer. Grad Assistant.CK called this one (Browning) back in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 If you are an OSU hater, put that aside for a moment. Fickell would make so much sense:He would most likely bring in a 4-3 DHe would be a big help to the young LBs, especially Wagner and hopefully HooblerHe would DRASTICALLY clean-up the special teams.He would bring in the d & st of "Tresselball", but b/c of his youth and playing with Cooper teams, very well will look at a downfield passing attack in an I-formation (along with some of the newer spread and Wildcat trends).His buddy, Mike Vrabel, might be ready to retire soon= would be a nice get as LB or DL coach.He might just stay here 5-6 years and wait out Tressel at OSU (who some have said will move to AD role in about 5 to 6 years).I think he makes all the sense in the world when you look at the big picture of D, ST, developing a different attitude, having Midwest roots, etc.OK buckeye honks, then please inform me of the "successful" Tressel coaching tree over the last 5 yearsDantonio went to UC and all he could talk about was getting home after UC games to watch the Buckeyes..Then watch Kelly take the program to a #5 ranking...Mark Snyder--Just fired.No Buckeye assistants at Ohio D-1 programs.....80 million dollar football budget vs. 15 million equals a reality check and a one-way ticket back to c-bus begging for your old job back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 BTW IF Mangino gets fired, I think he'd make an interesting candidate.He would make an interesting candidate. How many schools have a coach that can fly themselves to recruiting visits? Maybe we could "build" him his own hanger out at Wingfoot Lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 If you are an OSU hater, put that aside for a moment. Fickell would make so much sense:He would most likely bring in a 4-3 DHe would be a big help to the young LBs, especially Wagner and hopefully HooblerHe would DRASTICALLY clean-up the special teams.He would bring in the d & st of "Tresselball", but b/c of his youth and playing with Cooper teams, very well will look at a downfield passing attack in an I-formation (along with some of the newer spread and Wildcat trends).His buddy, Mike Vrabel, might be ready to retire soon= would be a nice get as LB or DL coach.He might just stay here 5-6 years and wait out Tressel at OSU (who some have said will move to AD role in about 5 to 6 years).I think he makes all the sense in the world when you look at the big picture of D, ST, developing a different attitude, having Midwest roots, etc.OK buckeye honks, then please inform me of the "successful" Tressel coaching tree over the last 5 yearsDantonio went to UC and all he could talk about was getting home after UC games to watch the Buckeyes..Then watch Kelly take the program to a #5 ranking...Mark Snyder--Just fired.No Buckeye assistants at Ohio D-1 programs.....80 million dollar football budget vs. 15 million equals a reality check and a one-way ticket back to c-bus begging for your old job back..Never thought of it that way. Speaking of begging for a job back, maybe Heacock from YSU (part of the Tressel coaching tree) will be begging for his back now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 The very Mangino that is spoken of here worked under Tressel at YSU. He had a little bit of success at Kansas, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 BTW IF Mangino gets fired, I think he'd make an interesting candidate. He would make an interesting candidate. How many schools have a coach that can fly themselves to recruiting visits? I didn't realize he is from New Castle, PA Would he pick Akron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 BTW IF Mangino gets fired, I think he'd make an interesting candidate. He would make an interesting candidate. How many schools have a coach that can fly themselves to recruiting visits? I didn't realize he is from New Castle, PA Would he pick Akron?He's looking for the rest of the large pizza he ate the night before.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeZippy Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 This was just posted on Footballscoop.com Mitch has been mentioned before.He was my first thought. Browning interviewed when JD was hired.Akron: We are hearing that Akron AD Tom Wistrcill is very close with Tennessee offensive GA Mitch Browning. Wistrcill as an associate AD at Minnesota when Browing served as the OC for the Gophers under Glen Mason.There's definitely interest on Browning's part from what I hear down here in Tennessee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordinaryaverageguy Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Carl Pelini.......Nebraska's D.C.....mark him as a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 BTW IF Mangino gets fired, I think he'd make an interesting candidate. He would make an interesting candidate. How many schools have a coach that can fly themselves to recruiting visits? I didn't realize he is from New Castle, PA Would he pick Akron?He's looking for the rest of the large pizza he ate the night before....Aren't you guys being a little rough on the guy? After all, the Zip sidelines seem to have been missing a little "heft" ever since Junko left for Pitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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