UA vs UB

[Z.I.P.]

on the bright side, BG is up 5 at Can't with 35 seconds left

A Can't home loss would be a bit of a silver lining, but not much.

Does anybody know, is Humpty Hitchens still on Akron's team?

[zipsfan13]

No foul when the kid from Buffalo lowered his shoulder and knocked Mcnees down?

Yep....well not that it matters when you hit 13 of 25 from the line. It'd be a manageable game right now if we hit 75%.

You've got that right. Another poor performance from the free throw line.

[timmyboy]

for the person who mentioned it earlier.... id like to smack smiley in the mouth.... highly dislike players like him.

[zippy5]

No foul when the kid from Buffalo lowered his shoulder and knocked Mcnees down?

Yep....well not that it matters when you hit 13 of 25 from the line. It'd be a manageable game right now if we hit 75%.

not that it matters, but you don't go to the line on a charge

[zipsfan13]

for the person who mentioned it earlier.... id like to smack smiley in the mouth.... highly dislike players like him.

I can't wait to make it miserable for him when Akron has Buffalo at home later in the year.

[vmd9]

for the person who mentioned it earlier.... id like to smack smiley in the mouth.... highly dislike players like him.

Smiley is a B*tch! he's been one his whole life. White trash who likes to run his mouth the whole game...someone needs to black his eye right now.

[Dave in Green]

Back to the reality of the MAC. The road is full of hazards, and the only thing that really counts is to peak for the tournament.

cut it to ten with ~7 minutes left. and we have the ball. it ain't over yet buddy.

Yeah. My past experience is that about the time I give up on the Zips, they seem to rally. They were beyond my help today, though. That 13-point total collapse at the end of the first half turned out to be the final margin of victory.I don't see any reason why the Zips can't deliver a worse than 13-point whooping to the Canadians when they play in Akron. No team in the MAC is strong enough to avoid losing several on the road.

[Captain Kangaroo]

No foul when the kid from Buffalo lowered his shoulder and knocked Mcnees down?

Yep....well not that it matters when you hit 13 of 25 from the line. It'd be a manageable game right now if we hit 75%.

I believe Buffalo has led the MAC in free throw defense for the past 6 years, so it isn't surprising that we shot poorly. Give credit where credit's due!

[zipdiehard]

Just got back from the game. I think most have summed it up...poor free throw shooting and ridiculous shooting by a few UB players were the game. They had no inside game, yet we let them shoot at will from the outside. Speaking of inside game, Keith needs to quit having such a short leash on Zeke...gvie the kid a chance to get into the flow.The officiiating was bad, more so to the Zips, but bad all around. Clean blocks called as fouls, iffy travel calls while obvious ones were missed, guys barreling head down into the lane and getting the block call, etc... Also, Keith's T was deserved. From what I could see, he did it on purpose. While he was calmly discussing it, he kept on and on with it. Even Jimmy was trying to get him to stop. I think Keith was hoping it would kick start the team.On a side not: I really liked their arena. While it is a bit "industrial" in looks, it has some nice features. I especially liked most of the foot traffic being in the upper surround. It was quite nice watching a game without the constant parade in front of you. Gawd do we need to blow up the JAR. One curious thing though: both in the concourse and in the arena they had banners proclaiming UB as 2009 MAC regular season champs. ???? Wasn't BG the East champ and overall number one seed for the tourney? Does the MAC declare one regular season champ with two divisions?

[RootforRoo44]

haha they can have their 2nd place banner...we were the MAC champs that counted for anything.

[bandzip]

Just got back from the game. I think most have summed it up...poor free throw shooting and ridiculous shooting by a few UB players were the game. They had no inside game, yet we let them shoot at will from the outside. Speaking of inside game, Keith needs to quit having such a short leash on Zeke...gvie the kid a chance to get into the flow.The officiiating was bad, more so to the Zips, but bad all around. Clean blocks called as fouls, iffy travel calls while obvious ones were missed, guys barreling head down into the lane and getting the block call, etc... Also, Keith's T was deserved. From what I could see, he did it on purpose. While he was calmly discussing it, he kept on and on with it. Even Jimmy was trying to get him to stop. I think Keith was hoping it would kick start the team.On a side not: I really liked their arena. While it is a bit "industrial" in looks, it has some nice features. I especially liked most of the foot traffic being in the upper surround. It was quite nice watching a game without the constant parade in front of you. Gawd do we need to blow up the JAR. One curious thing though: both in the concourse and in the arena they had banners proclaiming UB as 2009 MAC regular season champs. ???? Wasn't BG the East champ and overall number one seed for the tourney? Does the MAC declare one regular season champ with two divisions?

I just got back from the game a little bit ago as well. Some thoughts:Yes, the officiating was as bad, if not worse then it looked on the webcast. The last couple minutes of the first half is what killed us. At least in the second half they started calling both ways. The foul on Conyers that got Dambrot riled up was complete BS. Conyers grabbed the board and a UB player grabbed his arms from behind and Jimmy picked up his third foul, absolutely bizarre. Dambrot should of let it go, but the technical was WELL deserved, and all the assistant coaches along with Conyers and McNees were trying to get him to stop. Not sure how he thought a technical might help. In my opinion the intentional foul on McNees could have been a technical, he really brought him down hard. We just played like crap, plain and simple. For the millionth time BRETT McCLANAHAN IS NOT A FORWARD!!! Brett McKnight cannot keep trying to score on every possesion, and where is Humpty? My best guess is they wanted Roberts in there just to defend Pierce, but it wasn't working. I miss the Daryll from the first five or so games of the season when he was scoring double digits every night and playing lights out D. I thought Zeke looked great, and he wasn't wearing the knee braces today, my best guess is he didn't get much time because they want to make sure he's healthy. He made a couple boneheaded mistakes on D, but he also had a few blocked shots, stuck his hand up there and altered a few shots, was doing great on offense, and had at least two more blocks that were all ball and called fouls. UB's offense is totally centered around Pierce, their inside guys were very ineffective. They kick the ball around, drive to the basket, kick it out, over and over and over until Pierce is open, which was about every single time. They announced at the end of the game that he tied his career high with 31 points...Really Rowdies? There were 500 Buffalo students there plus the entire football team wearing "Beat the Roo" shirts. Four band kids and one guy wearing a Rowdy shirt were all that could make the trip on a three day weekend? WTF? They made sure to sing every word of the National Anthem obnoxiously, and end with "the home of the BULLS." "Tramp Stamp" chant on Steve McNees was really getting on my nerves. Same as "air ball" except they did it every single time he touched the ball the entire game.I liked the one side of their arena. It would be better if it wasn't one side looking like an arena, and three like a highschool gym. The lobby gave the place a big time feel. I would've loved to see some replays, but there was no video board, and nowhere in the arena was a board listing players, points and fouls, my small town highschool even had one of those. I never realized how great of an atmosphere we get at the JAR. They barely had the speakers up at all, the band played maybe three songs the entire game, media time outs every 2-3 minutes. There was no halftime entertainment and half the students were just sitting down texting. When they announced "And now, the starting line up for your MAC co-champion Buffalo Bulls!" at the beginning of the game some of our guys started laughing, and everyone in the arena just kind of looked at each other.

[skip-zip]

Just got back from the game. I think most have summed it up...poor free throw shooting and ridiculous shooting by a few UB players were the game. They had no inside game, yet we let them shoot at will from the outside. Speaking of inside game, Keith needs to quit having such a short leash on Zeke...gvie the kid a chance to get into the flow.The officiiating was bad, more so to the Zips, but bad all around. Clean blocks called as fouls, iffy travel calls while obvious ones were missed, guys barreling head down into the lane and getting the block call, etc... Also, Keith's T was deserved. From what I could see, he did it on purpose. While he was calmly discussing it, he kept on and on with it. Even Jimmy was trying to get him to stop. I think Keith was hoping it would kick start the team.On a side not: I really liked their arena. While it is a bit "industrial" in looks, it has some nice features. I especially liked most of the foot traffic being in the upper surround. It was quite nice watching a game without the constant parade in front of you. Gawd do we need to blow up the JAR. One curious thing though: both in the concourse and in the arena they had banners proclaiming UB as 2009 MAC regular season champs. ???? Wasn't BG the East champ and overall number one seed for the tourney? Does the MAC declare one regular season champ with two divisions?

Are you sure it didn't say co-champs? I'm guessing that they are looking at the fact that Buffalo and BG tied for the best record in the MAC. BG got the #1 seed in the tournament based on a tie breaker, but they did indeed have identical records. As we know, the MAC awards the NCAA tournament bid to the tournament winner, and not the regular season champ. But come to think of it, does our conference really officially acknowledge or award a regular season championship in any way? Someone might want to look this up, but I believe we had a year in football about a decade ago where we tied with Marshall for best record, but lost the bid to the MAC championship game to them on a tie breaker. I think we referred to ourselves as MAC Co-champs. But, I might be wrong.

[WinZip]

I got the rare chance to make the trip to Buffalo this Sunday with my girlfriend. This was my first trip to UB, and I came away with quite a few first impressions. I must say I was VERY impressed with the set up the Bulls have. Concession stands were buzzing with people, plenty of student employees were manning their stations, all around it was an atmosphere much more conducive to sporting entertainment. There was even quite a bit of Bulls merchandise displayed (I had to keep my girlfriend from buying something). The seating around the court is quite impressive, much more than I expected from any MAC school. With cement walls, it had quite an industrial feel. The biggest negative I noticed early on was the lack of video board, probably saving a fair amount of money, but a big setback. Hundreds of Buffalo students were dressed in "Beat the Roo" shirts, combined with the football team and band they formed quite the student section. As mentioned by a few others where were the Akron fans? I expected at least a few more, but a Sunday afternoon probably doesn't help. Sound didn't seem to carry all that well in the large arena, but at a few points it could really get "rumbling". While the atmosphere wasn't overly intimidating it did seem like the place to be, with lots to offer for "Joe Buffalo".Oh and before I forget, we should have a halftime speech from at least a few of our Zips coaches...I was thinking Caleb Porter and Rob Ianello. It might bring in a few of the Soccer/Football fans who otherwise avoid Zips Basketball. Now onto my thoughts about the game, which I will keep brief. I'm starting to get upset with all of the rotations KD is making on the court. (Am I the only one?) There were times when the guys on the court had glimpses of success, only to be shuffled up. I feel like I'm watching a hockey game sometimes! I'm not sure if KD is taking guys out because he is frustrated they made a mistake or what but it has to prevent the Zips from generating any sort of flow. Zeke seemed to be making a difference, but he was taken out and replaced with Nik (who has been frustrating to watch as of late). Does KD have a turn style approach with our guards to try and keep them all happy and in a Zip's uniform? I'm sure it helps with fatigue, but c'mon these guys are athletes! It’s hard to see this as a problem when we get the W, but I've been noticing and grumbling about it all season. Maybe we just lack those "star players" that we need. This brings me to my next thought...Jimmy Conyers is a beast! A few more players need to step up like he has. He was really putting the moves on a few of the bulls and is a straight up work-horse. The refs in the game made some bad calls (which I've come to expect) but I don't think it was a reason from the Zips losing. There were bad calls both ways all night. KD needs to keep his cool!The shooters for Buffalo were the difference in this game. Smiley and Pierce were flat out on fire, and we gave them too many open looks. Smiley went to the same high school as me (sorry VMD) and has really stepped up his play. We'll get our revenge...

[BirdZip]

What I saw:McNees was excellent. Only he and Nikola played with any aggression, and Nik only got 21 minutes. McNees was shooting well but we didn't key on him. Conyers played well but I think fouls hindered his aggression.Both McKnights were horrible. BMac couldn't hit the broad side of a barn but acted like a black hole.I thought Zeke looked much better this game. No problem with his play. he looked smoother--more natural.Tim Carroll started the 2nd half. WTF?I like Ronnie Steward until he passes the ball, then I want to reach out and slap him.McClanahan continues to disappoint, including laying on the ground and watching the rest of the play after a turnover (that's the one where McNees got his intentional foul, which was earned).Buffalo had GREAT ball movement. We actually looked bad and slow on defense. They had no trouble getting open shots, and when they drove they got in too easy. Again, GREAT ball movement.Buffalo shot 64% from 3-land.I was surprised to see it was only 3200 for attendance. Great student turnout for them, and it was loud. They played this up as a revenge game and the team and students came out fired up. We didn't.Buffalo's cheerleaders are awful. Two years ago at Buffalo I saw one get dropped on her head. it almost happened several times yesterday.In typical MAC fashion the refs made some boneheaded calls, but I didn't think Buffalo necessarily got the home treatment. We just stunk.

[clodney]

All I read on this site before our game was that "Buffalo was in Canada", "Buffalo has the least intelligent fans behind Can't State" and, "Buffalo can't organize 500 students"... Well, it seems to me you guys should stick to soccer (tho, F the wahoos) since none of your students made the trip and your team seemed to stay behind as well. Good luck down the road. We don't really consider you a rival, we're just pissed off about losing last year. Just make sure that in the future you keep the Buffalo bashing original (Canada jokes....again?) and maybe one day we'll treat you as half the relevant threat in basketball as Can't State always is.

[zippy5]

All I read on this site before our game was that "Buffalo was in Canada", "Buffalo has the least intelligent fans behind Can't State" and, "Buffalo can't organize 500 students"... Well, it seems to me you guys should stick to soccer (tho, F the wahoos) since none of your students made the trip and your team seemed to stay behind as well. Good luck down the road. We don't really consider you a rival, we're just pissed off about losing last year. Just make sure that in the future you keep the Buffalo bashing original (Canada jokes....again?) and maybe one day we'll treat you as half the relevant threat in basketball as Can't State always is.

true. maybe someday we can beat you in the MAC championship and become a real threat :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Dave in Green]

All I read on this site before our game was that "Buffalo was in Canada", "Buffalo has the least intelligent fans behind Can't State" and, "Buffalo can't organize 500 students"... Well, it seems to me you guys should stick to soccer (tho, F the wahoos) since none of your students made the trip and your team seemed to stay behind as well. Good luck down the road. We don't really consider you a rival, we're just pissed off about losing last year. Just make sure that in the future you keep the Buffalo bashing original (Canada jokes....again?) and maybe one day we'll treat you as half the relevant threat in basketball as Can't State always is.

Yep, UA has to earn it the same way Can't did with many years of success. Buffalo is a tough competitor with classy fans. I think we can have a good rivalry without hating each other.

[zippy5]

All I read on this site before our game was that "Buffalo was in Canada", "Buffalo has the least intelligent fans behind Can't State" and, "Buffalo can't organize 500 students"... Well, it seems to me you guys should stick to soccer (tho, F the wahoos) since none of your students made the trip and your team seemed to stay behind as well. Good luck down the road. We don't really consider you a rival, we're just pissed off about losing last year. Just make sure that in the future you keep the Buffalo bashing original (Canada jokes....again?) and maybe one day we'll treat you as half the relevant threat in basketball as Can't State always is.

Yep, UA has to earn it the same way Can't did with many years of success. Buffalo is a tough competitor with classy fans. I think we can have a good rivalry without hating each other.

what kind of rivalry would that be?