Dave in Green Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Zeke has now averaged enough minutes per game (minimum 40% minutes played to qualify) to be listed among the country's D1 block percentage leaders. Block percentage is an estimate of the percentage of opponent 2-point field goal attempts blocked by the player while he was on the floor.Last week Zeke would have been ranked 16th if he'd been qualified. His playing time over the past couple of games has pushed him onto the official list, and he debuts at #12 in the country and closing fast on the top 10.If he continues to move up, he could break into the top 10 before his freshman season is over. It's hard to imagine how high he might go up in this important stat over the next few years, and how many extra games the Zips will win due to blocks and altered shots.Block Percentage Leaders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Block Percentage LeadersFrom the same site. Go-to guy, Brett McKnight 8th in the nation in percentage of shots taken?!? Role player McNeese is 498 in the nation in effective field goal percentage?!? Weird site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 And he is only five away from planting himself in tenth place all-time on the Zips list and has already tied Romeo Travis for third place on the Zips list for most blocked shots in a season. I'd count that as a pretty successful freshman debut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 And he is only five away from planting himself in tenth place all-time on the Zips list and has already tied Romeo Travis for third place on the Zips list for most blocked shots in a season. I'd count that as a pretty successful freshman debut.Do bracketbuster and playoff games count in the stats?If so, I think he could break the top 10 and better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 And he is only five away from planting himself in tenth place all-time on the Zips list and has already tied Romeo Travis for third place on the Zips list for most blocked shots in a season. I'd count that as a pretty successful freshman debut.Do bracketbuster and playoff games count in the stats?If so, I think he could break the top 10 and better.Yep, they all count for a season. We have five regular season games left, hopefully 3 in the MAC tourney and at least one in a post season tourney. Zeke is at 45 blocks right now (too bad they don't seem to count all of his ) and the season record is 65 by Romeo Travis. If we get that many games, he has an outside shot at it. That would tie him with Quade Milum for #7 (with 121 games played compared with 26 for Zeke). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmd9 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 And he is only five away from planting himself in tenth place all-time on the Zips list and has already tied Romeo Travis for third place on the Zips list for most blocked shots in a season. I'd count that as a pretty successful freshman debut.Do bracketbuster and playoff games count in the stats?If so, I think he could break the top 10 and better.Yep, they all count for a season. We have five regular season games left, hopefully 3 in the MAC tourney and at least one in a post season tourney. Zeke is at 45 blocks right now (too bad they don't seem to count all of his ) and the season record is 65 by Romeo Travis. If we get that many games, he has an outside shot at it. That would tie him with Quade Milum for #7 (with 121 games played compared with 26 for Zeke).I think with stats like that some people on here should stop talking so much about that Cooper guy from Ohio, and remember we have an extremely talented freshman on our Zips. Maybe he hasn't had a 30pt game but I'm sure Cooper isn't anywhere near the top in the nation in any stats...Stop saying "how did Ohio get Cooper" who is a 3-star recruit btw and remember we have a 4-star recruit playing some good basketball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipfan85 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 And he is only five away from planting himself in tenth place all-time on the Zips list and has already tied Romeo Travis for third place on the Zips list for most blocked shots in a season. I'd count that as a pretty successful freshman debut.Do bracketbuster and playoff games count in the stats?If so, I think he could break the top 10 and better.Yep, they all count for a season. We have five regular season games left, hopefully 3 in the MAC tourney and at least one in a post season tourney. Zeke is at 45 blocks right now (too bad they don't seem to count all of his ) and the season record is 65 by Romeo Travis. If we get that many games, he has an outside shot at it. That would tie him with Quade Milum for #7 (with 121 games played compared with 26 for Zeke).i imagine he would already be in the top 10 if the MAC refs didn't suck so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboze Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I agree. Even with the refs, Zeke is leading the MAC in blocked shots...BLOCKED SHOTS## Player-Team Cl G Blocks Avg/G------------------------------------------------ 1.MARSHALL, Zeke-UA........ FR 26 45 1.73 2.LAWSON, Donald-WMU....... SR 25 38 1.52MAC 2010 Season Stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Go-to guy, Brett McKnight 8th in the nation in percentage of shots taken?!? Role player McNeese is 498 in the nation in effective field goal percentage?!? Weird site.The Pomeroy site is heaven for stats freaks. It really isn't so weird if you take the time to read the explanations for all of the various stats.For example, percentage of shots taken refers to the percentage of a team's total number of field goal attempts any single player takes. B. McKnight was 6th in the nation in this category prior to sitting out a game, which dropped him to 10th in the nation. Looks like he's on his way back up. That's the role he has been assigned by KD, who often refers to him as the team's best shooter.McNees is considered a "role player" in the % of possessions used category because of his "usage" in 16-20% of the Zips' possessions. It helps to understand the following definition:Usage (% of possessions used) -- This describes a player’s role in the offense, by explaining how many of his team’s possessions a player is personally responsible for ending while he is on the floor.That's why B. McKnight is classified as a go-to guy (>28% of possessions used), C. McKnight is a major contributor (24-28% of possessions used), and Hitchens, Cvetinovic and Marshall are all considered signifcant contributors (20-24%). They are all personally responsible for ending more team posessions than McNees while they are on the floor.Effective field goal percentage (eFG%) differs from conventional field goal percentage by taking into account the extra value of a made 3-pointer (FGM + 0.5*3PM) / FGA. McNees doesn't have a high national rating in this stat, but his rating is about average for the Zips.The Pomoeroy stats are great to check if you have a "feeling" about a player's (or team's) performance in any particular area and want to get a reality check on whether your eyes and mind are playing tricks on you.Explanation of Pomeroy Stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Role player McNeese is #498 in the nation in effective field goal percentage?!?But he leads the nation in Time of Possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Even as I'm really happy to see statistics in between games .. and I like having the HV & +/- available, I will nominate "block percentage" as the ZipsNation.Org Obscure Stat of the Week.Congrats Dave! B) Go Zips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Role player McNeese is #498 in the nation in effective field goal percentage?!?But he leads the nation in Time of Possession.Horrible post, maybe one of your worst ever!Clearly this should be integrated from 0 to X, not alpha to X, and the implied assumption is that f(0) = 0. Then perhaps this argument holds water.Asleep at the keyboard again, CK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I wish that site included the DDDJUAT ratio/percentage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Horrible post, maybe one of your worst ever!Clearly this should be integrated from 0 to X, not alpha to X, and the implied assumption is that f(0) = 0. Then perhaps this argument holds water.Asleep at the keyboard again, CK? Cut me some slack...it's been 20 years since I last solved for f(x).I don't think I can spell dy/dx anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Nice to see all of the moderators paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZoner Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 It's hard to imagine how high he might go up in this important stat over the next few years, and how many extra games the Zips will win due to blocks and altered shots.The importance of the block stat is disputed. Myself, I don't put much stock in it. Altered shots? Absolutely, there there's no hard stat for that. Problem is, we still don't have solid defensive stats publicly available, which is where Marshall is making his hay.Maybe he hasn't had a 30pt game but I'm sure Cooper isn't anywhere near the top in the nation in any stats...Stop saying "how did Ohio get Cooper" who is a 3-star recruit btw and remember we have a 4-star recruit playing some good basketballCooper is tied for 19th in assists per game (61st in assist rate), tied for fifth in steals per game (26th in steal percentage), and tied for 133rd in assist to turnover. Also, how many stars a player has is meaningless.Also, kenpom and Basketball State = awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Maybe he hasn't had a 30pt game but I'm sure Cooper isn't anywhere near the top in the nation in any stats...Stop saying "how did Ohio get Cooper" who is a 3-star recruit btw and remember we have a 4-star recruit playing some good basketballCooper is tied for 19th in assists per game (61st in assist rate), tied for fifth in steals per game (26th in steal percentage), and tied for 133rd in assist to turnover. Also, how many stars a player has is meaningless.Also, kenpom and Basketball State = awesomeCooper's been one of the best 2 or 3 players on the floor each of the 4 times I've watched OU this season. Seems like a high major guard to me anyway.statsheet.com = awesomer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Statsheet.com has way more detailed stats than kenpom.com, but kenpom.com has some features statsheet.com does not. Just as no single statistical measurement has all the answers, neither does any one website. Would be nice to have enough time to be able to check out all the available data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZoner Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 The consensus in the recruiting community is that Cooper would have gone high major if he was taller or if he didn't sign in the early period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 The consensus in the recruiting community is that Cooper would have gone high major if he was taller ...Same with Brett McKnight. If he were 6' 11", he'd be at UCLA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmd9 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 The consensus in the recruiting community is that Cooper would have gone high major if he was taller ...Same with Brett McKnight. If he were 6' 11", he'd be at UCLA. No Majors even offered the kid...the only schools that offered him were Can't, Ohio, Wichita state, and Loyola. ESPN gave him an amazing 87...yeah I'd say if he was an inch taller he would have gotten 100! I actually heard Kentucky was going to offer him but gave up because he was just too good and Calipari didn't feel he could get him...lot's of people use the word "if" it means nothing. I would have been a QB for USC "if" i could throw better, "if" i was good at football, and "if" I was taller...means nothingZeke > Cooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZoner Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Um... OK? This wasn't my opinion, it's what other people have told me. While he didn't have offers, Illinois and Marquette were looking at him. Had Ohio not gotten him in the early signing period, there's a good chance he'd be playing elsewhere right now. I have no interest or opinion in a "Zeke vs DJ" competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Zeke currently sits at 49 blocked shots, standing right now in third place for most blocked shots in a season (probably not going to break into the top two), tied for the most blocked shots in a single game (6 against Niagara) and with one more will move into a tie for the most in a career (Marcel Boyce - in 59 games) and only three back of #7, Nate Linhart. Here's to a dozen against the Flushes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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