True Blue on the Horizon

[RootforRoo44]

We've tried the "points" system with some very awesome rewards for the most dedicated students. It's still just the same 100 people every time.Maybe the band needs to move. If we had that space we could fill it up. And it's not like they wouldn't have plenty of room up top.

I have been saying that for the longest time. No offense to the band, but they should move up to the wooden bleachers where it says "band". They are taking up half of the student section on that end and they can be heard just fine if they were on the 2nd level...

Isn't two half empty student sections way worse than one? If there are empty seats with the band taking up half of them what in the world makes you think they'll be full if we move?

now in terms of letting people down after tip, we have told the ushers (staff) that we let other students down after tip if theres room. thats why we have someone with the wristbands up there till atleast the under 16 media timeout. plus during break including the uri game we let anyone down there, didnt really seem to make a difference bc people still sat in the wooden bleachers. weird and frustrating all in its self

I'll call you out here. I came back for the Valpo game over break and got there a minute and a half after tip off and they weren't going to let me sit down behind the baskets even though there were about 5 students on one side and twenty on the other. Luckily one of the ushers recognized that I'm usually with the band and let me in but only after arguing with the folks up top for 5 minutes.

The fact that the band cheers is exactly why they should move. There needs to be something to excite the crowd in the upper seats.

Isn't that what cheerleaders are for? The student section starts all of their own cheers anyways. Where do Can't and Buffalo put their bands? How about at the Q for the tournament, where do they sit? You know where we were in Portland? Right behind the basket.We talk about bandwagon fans on this board a lot. 1300 students at a soccer game and lucky to get 50 at a basketball game? You blame the Rubber Bowl for the poor student turn out for football games and say more students will show up to games when the stadium is on campus. There were 15 students at the Eastern Michigan football game. Now you're saying they don't sit in the empty seats behind the baskets because the band is there?I've been dissapointed with the Rowdy turn out all year. Don't get me wrong, the ones who are there are excellent. My game isn't complete without the guy holding up the erroneous poster and screaming at the refs or the "I Believe" chant at the end of the game. The problem is the 1000+ who aren't there. I made the road trip to Buffalo with three other guys from the band and there were only two other Akron students there and it was a three day weekend. Where was everyone for the Can't basketball game this year? It's fifteen minutes away! I've made roadtrips to BG, Buffalo and evey Can't game without the band and am always amazed by the lack of student support. Be thankful you have a guaranteed thirty students or so there every game with the band so it doesn't look as bad for the school when the games are on tv and there are 30 more empty blue seats on the court.

I used to be all for the band moving but i realized that you are right. You guys put alot into it lately. You dont just stand there, you get loud along with the rowdies and i salute you guys. Until the 90% of the Rowdies who never come to basketball games start showing up there is no reason to move the band. Once they do and students need those seats, of course, move the band back up where they should be. But right now it's not like anyone is trying to sit there considering there is plenty of room on the north side. However, maybe the band should move up for the Can't game because we all know the Twice a Year's will be in full force taking up seats for that one.

I understand where you're coming from for the Can't game, but I respectfully disagree. I've been at every game for two years and I would much rather sit under the basket for the biggest game of the year then up top. I'm one of the one's cheering just as loud as everyone else and don't really feel like I should have to give up my seat for one of the twice a years who obviously couldn't care less about the game.

Quit the band.

[bandzip]

I think what everyone is asking and what im trying to figure out also is what are we doing differently in basketball than soccer in getting students and more fans out? I have no idea how we can change this other than posting flyers on like every door in the dorms to get more rowdies and students out...Other than that...I have no idea...I'll be willing to help the advertising or marketing on students if anyone has any ideas...cause my little head is out of them(i don't have many good ideas to begin with, and i don't know what i was thinking with band switching sides...)...We have 28,000 students...im sure that we can get more rowdies and get some good ones in the bunch...but it's getting them to come...which i wish i had the answer for...

It is weird. I mean, even at the Morgan State game when we were smoking them most of the students left at halftime, and then no one showed up for the Indiana game. Maybe the basketball team needs to win every single game and then be ranked number one in the nation to catch the students attention.

[RootforRoo44]

I think what everyone is asking and what im trying to figure out also is what are we doing differently in basketball than soccer in getting students and more fans out? I have no idea how we can change this other than posting flyers on like every door in the dorms to get more rowdies and students out...Other than that...I have no idea...I'll be willing to help the advertising or marketing on students if anyone has any ideas...cause my little head is out of them(i don't have many good ideas to begin with, and i don't know what i was thinking with band switching sides...)...We have 28,000 students...im sure that we can get more rowdies and get some good ones in the bunch...but it's getting them to come...which i wish i had the answer for...

It is weird. I mean, even at the Morgan State game when we were smoking them most of the students left at halftime, and then no one showed up for the Indiana game. Maybe the basketball team needs to win every single game and then be ranked number one in the nation to catch the students attention.

*ding ding ding ding*

[mes102]

To clarify what i was saying, im always there at the north end but we can't seem to fill up both of the sections. I just want it to look like it's filled up there when it really isn't... they should just tape off the seats behind the hoopp anyway since no one really sits at those seats and can't really see the game on the court or jumbotronAbout the band: Even though im trying to talk to the peiople on my sdide about the upcoming game and trying to be "smart", i can't hear them since the band is so loud even on the north side...so really get it hard to hear(ppl may not want to hear this), we should try to get the band to expand bigger and make it almost full on the one side and the dedicated rowdies on the other side...i know ppl don't like this idea, but it would show the court being full...that's the only illusion that can help but won't work...just can't wait to be outnumbered student wise on March 5th, but be louder...

[bandzip]

We've tried the "points" system with some very awesome rewards for the most dedicated students. It's still just the same 100 people every time.Maybe the band needs to move. If we had that space we could fill it up. And it's not like they wouldn't have plenty of room up top.

I have been saying that for the longest time. No offense to the band, but they should move up to the wooden bleachers where it says "band". They are taking up half of the student section on that end and they can be heard just fine if they were on the 2nd level...

Isn't two half empty student sections way worse than one? If there are empty seats with the band taking up half of them what in the world makes you think they'll be full if we move?

now in terms of letting people down after tip, we have told the ushers (staff) that we let other students down after tip if theres room. thats why we have someone with the wristbands up there till atleast the under 16 media timeout. plus during break including the uri game we let anyone down there, didnt really seem to make a difference bc people still sat in the wooden bleachers. weird and frustrating all in its self

I'll call you out here. I came back for the Valpo game over break and got there a minute and a half after tip off and they weren't going to let me sit down behind the baskets even though there were about 5 students on one side and twenty on the other. Luckily one of the ushers recognized that I'm usually with the band and let me in but only after arguing with the folks up top for 5 minutes.

The fact that the band cheers is exactly why they should move. There needs to be something to excite the crowd in the upper seats.

Isn't that what cheerleaders are for? The student section starts all of their own cheers anyways. Where do Can't and Buffalo put their bands? How about at the Q for the tournament, where do they sit? You know where we were in Portland? Right behind the basket.We talk about bandwagon fans on this board a lot. 1300 students at a soccer game and lucky to get 50 at a basketball game? You blame the Rubber Bowl for the poor student turn out for football games and say more students will show up to games when the stadium is on campus. There were 15 students at the Eastern Michigan football game. Now you're saying they don't sit in the empty seats behind the baskets because the band is there?I've been dissapointed with the Rowdy turn out all year. Don't get me wrong, the ones who are there are excellent. My game isn't complete without the guy holding up the erroneous poster and screaming at the refs or the "I Believe" chant at the end of the game. The problem is the 1000+ who aren't there. I made the road trip to Buffalo with three other guys from the band and there were only two other Akron students there and it was a three day weekend. Where was everyone for the Can't basketball game this year? It's fifteen minutes away! I've made roadtrips to BG, Buffalo and evey Can't game without the band and am always amazed by the lack of student support. Be thankful you have a guaranteed thirty students or so there every game with the band so it doesn't look as bad for the school when the games are on tv and there are 30 more empty blue seats on the court.

I used to be all for the band moving but i realized that you are right. You guys put alot into it lately. You dont just stand there, you get loud along with the rowdies and i salute you guys. Until the 90% of the Rowdies who never come to basketball games start showing up there is no reason to move the band. Once they do and students need those seats, of course, move the band back up where they should be. But right now it's not like anyone is trying to sit there considering there is plenty of room on the north side. However, maybe the band should move up for the Can't game because we all know the Twice a Year's will be in full force taking up seats for that one.

I understand where you're coming from for the Can't game, but I respectfully disagree. I've been at every game for two years and I would much rather sit under the basket for the biggest game of the year then up top. I'm one of the one's cheering just as loud as everyone else and don't really feel like I should have to give up my seat for one of the twice a years who obviously couldn't care less about the game.

Quit the band.

RootforRoo I was hoping for once we could have a civil discussion without you going off on one of your band attacks. Oh well...Besides, if I quit I don't get free tickets to go to the Q or Portland and root on my team.

[RootforRoo44]

We've tried the "points" system with some very awesome rewards for the most dedicated students. It's still just the same 100 people every time.Maybe the band needs to move. If we had that space we could fill it up. And it's not like they wouldn't have plenty of room up top.

I have been saying that for the longest time. No offense to the band, but they should move up to the wooden bleachers where it says "band". They are taking up half of the student section on that end and they can be heard just fine if they were on the 2nd level...

Isn't two half empty student sections way worse than one? If there are empty seats with the band taking up half of them what in the world makes you think they'll be full if we move?

now in terms of letting people down after tip, we have told the ushers (staff) that we let other students down after tip if theres room. thats why we have someone with the wristbands up there till atleast the under 16 media timeout. plus during break including the uri game we let anyone down there, didnt really seem to make a difference bc people still sat in the wooden bleachers. weird and frustrating all in its self

I'll call you out here. I came back for the Valpo game over break and got there a minute and a half after tip off and they weren't going to let me sit down behind the baskets even though there were about 5 students on one side and twenty on the other. Luckily one of the ushers recognized that I'm usually with the band and let me in but only after arguing with the folks up top for 5 minutes.

The fact that the band cheers is exactly why they should move. There needs to be something to excite the crowd in the upper seats.

Isn't that what cheerleaders are for? The student section starts all of their own cheers anyways. Where do Can't and Buffalo put their bands? How about at the Q for the tournament, where do they sit? You know where we were in Portland? Right behind the basket.We talk about bandwagon fans on this board a lot. 1300 students at a soccer game and lucky to get 50 at a basketball game? You blame the Rubber Bowl for the poor student turn out for football games and say more students will show up to games when the stadium is on campus. There were 15 students at the Eastern Michigan football game. Now you're saying they don't sit in the empty seats behind the baskets because the band is there?I've been dissapointed with the Rowdy turn out all year. Don't get me wrong, the ones who are there are excellent. My game isn't complete without the guy holding up the erroneous poster and screaming at the refs or the "I Believe" chant at the end of the game. The problem is the 1000+ who aren't there. I made the road trip to Buffalo with three other guys from the band and there were only two other Akron students there and it was a three day weekend. Where was everyone for the Can't basketball game this year? It's fifteen minutes away! I've made roadtrips to BG, Buffalo and evey Can't game without the band and am always amazed by the lack of student support. Be thankful you have a guaranteed thirty students or so there every game with the band so it doesn't look as bad for the school when the games are on tv and there are 30 more empty blue seats on the court.

I used to be all for the band moving but i realized that you are right. You guys put alot into it lately. You dont just stand there, you get loud along with the rowdies and i salute you guys. Until the 90% of the Rowdies who never come to basketball games start showing up there is no reason to move the band. Once they do and students need those seats, of course, move the band back up where they should be. But right now it's not like anyone is trying to sit there considering there is plenty of room on the north side. However, maybe the band should move up for the Can't game because we all know the Twice a Year's will be in full force taking up seats for that one.

I understand where you're coming from for the Can't game, but I respectfully disagree. I've been at every game for two years and I would much rather sit under the basket for the biggest game of the year then up top. I'm one of the one's cheering just as loud as everyone else and don't really feel like I should have to give up my seat for one of the twice a years who obviously couldn't care less about the game.

Quit the band.

RootforRoo I was hoping for once we could have a civil discussion without you going off on one of your band attacks. Oh well...Besides, if I quit I don't get free tickets to go to the Q or Portland and root on my team.

Take the time you spend with band, work a job, and pay for it yourself. I'm not being uncivil. It's not like people are saying "get rid of the band", they just want them moved. And when the time comes where those seats are needed, you should be moved. I have been to every home game except one in the last 7 years and a good deal more over the 10 years prior. I dont get priority seating and i dont expect it. You shouldnt expect to get to sit down there either, same as you shouldnt expect to get TWO/THREE seats down there for yourself. You find a way to take up 1 seat per person in the band then fine.

[bandzip]

You find a way to take up 1 seat per person in the band then fine.

For the most part we do, that's why the sousaphones moved down to the floor.

[RootforRoo44]

You find a way to take up 1 seat per person in the band then fine.

For the most part we do, that's why the sousaphones moved down to the floor.

You are averaging at least 2 seats per person still.

[vmd9]

We've tried the "points" system with some very awesome rewards for the most dedicated students. It's still just the same 100 people every time.Maybe the band needs to move. If we had that space we could fill it up. And it's not like they wouldn't have plenty of room up top.

I have been saying that for the longest time. No offense to the band, but they should move up to the wooden bleachers where it says "band". They are taking up half of the student section on that end and they can be heard just fine if they were on the 2nd level...

Isn't two half empty student sections way worse than one? If there are empty seats with the band taking up half of them what in the world makes you think they'll be full if we move?

now in terms of letting people down after tip, we have told the ushers (staff) that we let other students down after tip if theres room. thats why we have someone with the wristbands up there till atleast the under 16 media timeout. plus during break including the uri game we let anyone down there, didnt really seem to make a difference bc people still sat in the wooden bleachers. weird and frustrating all in its self

I'll call you out here. I came back for the Valpo game over break and got there a minute and a half after tip off and they weren't going to let me sit down behind the baskets even though there were about 5 students on one side and twenty on the other. Luckily one of the ushers recognized that I'm usually with the band and let me in but only after arguing with the folks up top for 5 minutes.

The fact that the band cheers is exactly why they should move. There needs to be something to excite the crowd in the upper seats.

Isn't that what cheerleaders are for? The student section starts all of their own cheers anyways. Where do Can't and Buffalo put their bands? How about at the Q for the tournament, where do they sit? You know where we were in Portland? Right behind the basket.We talk about bandwagon fans on this board a lot. 1300 students at a soccer game and lucky to get 50 at a basketball game? You blame the Rubber Bowl for the poor student turn out for football games and say more students will show up to games when the stadium is on campus. There were 15 students at the Eastern Michigan football game. Now you're saying they don't sit in the empty seats behind the baskets because the band is there?I've been dissapointed with the Rowdy turn out all year. Don't get me wrong, the ones who are there are excellent. My game isn't complete without the guy holding up the erroneous poster and screaming at the refs or the "I Believe" chant at the end of the game. The problem is the 1000+ who aren't there. I made the road trip to Buffalo with three other guys from the band and there were only two other Akron students there and it was a three day weekend. Where was everyone for the Can't basketball game this year? It's fifteen minutes away! I've made roadtrips to BG, Buffalo and evey Can't game without the band and am always amazed by the lack of student support. Be thankful you have a guaranteed thirty students or so there every game with the band so it doesn't look as bad for the school when the games are on tv and there are 30 more empty blue seats on the court.

I used to be all for the band moving but i realized that you are right. You guys put alot into it lately. You dont just stand there, you get loud along with the rowdies and i salute you guys. Until the 90% of the Rowdies who never come to basketball games start showing up there is no reason to move the band. Once they do and students need those seats, of course, move the band back up where they should be. But right now it's not like anyone is trying to sit there considering there is plenty of room on the north side. However, maybe the band should move up for the Can't game because we all know the Twice a Year's will be in full force taking up seats for that one.

I understand where you're coming from for the Can't game, but I respectfully disagree. I've been at every game for two years and I would much rather sit under the basket for the biggest game of the year then up top. I'm one of the one's cheering just as loud as everyone else and don't really feel like I should have to give up my seat for one of the twice a years who obviously couldn't care less about the game.

Quit the band.

RootforRoo I was hoping for once we could have a civil discussion without you going off on one of your band attacks. Oh well...Besides, if I quit I don't get free tickets to go to the Q or Portland and root on my team.

Take the time you spend with band, work a job, and pay for it yourself. I'm not being uncivil. It's not like people are saying "get rid of the band", they just want them moved. And when the time comes where those seats are needed, you should be moved. I have been to every home game except one in the last 7 years and a good deal more over the 10 years prior. I dont get priority seating and i dont expect it. You shouldnt expect to get to sit down there either, same as you shouldnt expect to get TWO/THREE seats down there for yourself. You find a way to take up 1 seat per person in the band then fine.

I'm with rootforroo! Nothing against the band or it's members, I tend to support them most of the time. But most of them don't cheer, so that argument doesn't really work. I actually hear fairly often that students don't like to sit by the band. Not saying I believe this, it's just what I have heard over the past years. We are just suggesting a move, not getting rid of the band completely, so there's no need to freak out. Just trying to find ways to improve the game experience

[bandzip]

My point is why is moving the band even suggested as a solution for students not showing up? Send out emails, have Rowdies officers holding little slips of paper that say "Game tonight vs. ___" and the time at lunch. Make it required to show up to so many games to get floor seats for the Can't game. I would have no issue moving if it was for students who gave a crap about the team or the game, but most of the people there on the 6th will be texting and complaining they can't hear what their friends are trying to say because everyone is cheering too loud, and you won't see them again til next year at same time.

[Let'sGoZips94]

My point is why is moving the band even suggested as a solution for students not showing up? Send out emails, have Rowdies officers holding little slips of paper that say "Game tonight vs. ___" and the time at lunch. Make it required to show up to so many games to get floor seats for the Can't game. I would have no issue moving if it was for students who gave a crap about the team or the game, but most of the people there on the 6th will be texting and complaining they can't hear what their friends are trying to say because everyone is cheering too loud, and you won't see them again til next year at same time.

That's one of the rewards I'm pretty sure of the point system, getting tickets for the Can't game.

[TrueBlue]

Well we know it's true for forums now, all that's left is to show you that whether it's your arena or ours, Gets it poppin!

[Dave in Green]

This is one of the best discussions I've even seen on ZN. I love college basketball and have been attending college games around the country for more than 40 years. I always come home with a hoarse throat.Someone absolutely has to figure out the disconnect between soccer and basketball. Sure, it's easy to ride a proven winner. Anyone can do that. The hard part is getting behind a team on the rise that needs the student body to let them know they matter. It's a proven fact that the home court is an advantage in college basketball. But it's less of an advantage with tepid support and more of an advantage with crazy support. There's no doubt in my mind that if the same number of Rowdies showed up for basketball games as soccer games, the team would respond. You guys and gals can be a part of creating a winner (basketball), not just riding a winner that's already there (soccer).Find a way to get a huge turnout of Rowdies at a game other than Can't, and let the Zips know you care. It will absolutely motivate the players. I promise you they will notice and reward you with better play.

[ZachTheZip]

I believe that of we had even half of the "on paper" Rowdies at the basketball games, we wouldn't have lost to Austin Peay or to Rhode Island or to EMU. Those uninspired home games wouldn't happen because the students could push the team on.I think the point system started too late this year. The students need to show up for the early season games, and we can build a strong base from that. To suddenly expect them to show up for the MAC games when half the season is over means you've already lost the interest of lots of students. So here's an idea. Make attendance to 50% of the non-conference home games mandatory. If they don't show up and don't have an excuse, they lose the membership and are ineligible for rewards or road trips later in the season. They can regain membership by attending three MAC home games. It doesn't really do anything, but the idea that they'll be "kicked out" could be enough to get more of them to show up. It's just an idea.

[mes102]

I really like Zach's idea...they don't come, take their shirt away. Honestly though, if someone can find an idea i'll promote about the games...i want to volunteer my evenings for this...rest of year is on TV, and i want people to know the Rowdies...pm me if anyone has anything for me to do...im ready to kick it into high gear

[RootforRoo44]

I really like Zach's idea...they don't come, take their shirt away. Honestly though, if someone can find an idea i'll promote about the games...i want to volunteer my evenings for this...rest of year is on TV, and i want people to know the Rowdies...pm me if anyone has anything for me to do...im ready to kick it into high gear

Same...i already bring people to games all the time and i've hooked plenty of them on just getting them to go once. What people need to do is invite their friends, get them to come just once and see what it's all about.

[ZachTheZip]

I really like Zach's idea...they don't come, take their shirt away. Honestly though, if someone can find an idea i'll promote about the games...i want to volunteer my evenings for this...rest of year is on TV, and i want people to know the Rowdies...pm me if anyone has anything for me to do...im ready to kick it into high gear

Nah. It's too difficult to try and take somebody's shirt.Instead, why not make the shirt something to be earned? Like having to sign in to three fall sporting events to get your shirt.

[vmd9]

My point is why is moving the band even suggested as a solution for students not showing up? Send out emails, have Rowdies officers holding little slips of paper that say "Game tonight vs. ___" and the time at lunch. Make it required to show up to so many games to get floor seats for the Can't game. I would have no issue moving if it was for students who gave a crap about the team or the game, but most of the people there on the 6th will be texting and complaining they can't hear what their friends are trying to say because everyone is cheering too loud, and you won't see them again til next year at same time.

That's one of the rewards I'm pretty sure of the point system, getting tickets for the Can't game.

Well like most people I went home for winter break, kinda screwed me over then because I missed so many games. I've gone to most since then, but if thats a requirement I don't see how I will be able to get to go to the Can't game.

[RootforRoo44]

My point is why is moving the band even suggested as a solution for students not showing up? Send out emails, have Rowdies officers holding little slips of paper that say "Game tonight vs. ___" and the time at lunch. Make it required to show up to so many games to get floor seats for the Can't game. I would have no issue moving if it was for students who gave a crap about the team or the game, but most of the people there on the 6th will be texting and complaining they can't hear what their friends are trying to say because everyone is cheering too loud, and you won't see them again til next year at same time.

That's one of the rewards I'm pretty sure of the point system, getting tickets for the Can't game.

Well like most people I went home for winter break, kinda screwed me over then because I missed so many games. I've gone to most since then, but if thats a requirement I don't see how I will be able to get to go to the Can't game.

It's easy to catch up...just go to girls games. I've only been to 3 girls games and all 3 i didnt sign in to get my points and i still am #7 last time i heard. So go to a few games they are worth more points than guys and you can catch up.

[vmd9]

My point is why is moving the band even suggested as a solution for students not showing up? Send out emails, have Rowdies officers holding little slips of paper that say "Game tonight vs. ___" and the time at lunch. Make it required to show up to so many games to get floor seats for the Can't game. I would have no issue moving if it was for students who gave a crap about the team or the game, but most of the people there on the 6th will be texting and complaining they can't hear what their friends are trying to say because everyone is cheering too loud, and you won't see them again til next year at same time.

That's one of the rewards I'm pretty sure of the point system, getting tickets for the Can't game.

Well like most people I went home for winter break, kinda screwed me over then because I missed so many games. I've gone to most since then, but if thats a requirement I don't see how I will be able to get to go to the Can't game.

It's easy to catch up...just go to girls games. I've only been to 3 girls games and all 3 i didnt sign in to get my points and i still am #7 last time i heard. So go to a few games they are worth more points than guys and you can catch up.

I mean no disrespect for the girls, but I just can't get excited about their games. The only games I actually want to go to usually have conflicting times with the men's on TV or the radio...

[plowerman78]

i hear what you all are saying so here you go...1. The point system was done bc the fact no one was showing up during break. It is now a perminent thing going into next year. Honestly attendance for games is up because of that. Kinda scary to think how things would be if we didnt put it in place.2. We do send out emails, both on facebook and on the university server. We tell people the importance of the games, and how this team needs them. Unfortunatly people just don't care.3. Its sad but true but people join the ROWDIES for the shirt. I wish it wasnt true trust me but facts are facts. It happens every where. true blue, ozone ect. We reward those that come, discounted tickets for the MAC, Can't tickets ect. 4. I wish everyone showed up to games, honestly if we can get what we do at soccer it would be amazing. And that goes for everyone not just the ROWDIES.5. The players, coaches, the team knows we are behind them. They come celebrate with us after games, dance around on the bench when we do "I believe" trust me they know we are behind them.6. Be thankful for what you got. I know some of you may not be happy but honestly be happy that you have us. Look around the MAC and a majority of the schools do not have wha we have. We create a great atmosphere, do chants, get in the other teams head and when it comes MAC tourney time we give this team a home court advantage no other team can give. aka we have the same seats as last year. 7. I love this university, this team and the ROWDIES. We the ROWDIES will try everything in our power to get this team back to the dance this year, which includes getting a win on Wednesday night. Buffalo's in Canada, Can't State Sucks and GO ZIPS!!!

[vmd9]

i hear what you all are saying so here you go...1. The point system was done bc the fact no one was showing up during break. It is now a perminent thing going into next year. Honestly attendance for games is up because of that. Kinda scary to think how things would be if we didnt put it in place.2. We do send out emails, both on facebook and on the university server. We tell people the importance of the games, and how this team needs them. Unfortunatly people just don't care.3. Its sad but true but people join the ROWDIES for the shirt. I wish it wasnt true trust me but facts are facts. It happens every where. true blue, ozone ect. We reward those that come, discounted tickets for the MAC, Can't tickets ect. 4. I wish everyone showed up to games, honestly if we can get what we do at soccer it would be amazing. And that goes for everyone not just the ROWDIES.5. The players, coaches, the team knows we are behind them. They come celebrate with us after games, dance around on the bench when we do "I believe" trust me they know we are behind them.6. Be thankful for what you got. I know some of you may not be happy but honestly be happy that you have us. Look around the MAC and a majority of the schools do not have wha we have. We create a great atmosphere, do chants, get in the other teams head and when it comes MAC tourney time we give this team a home court advantage no other team can give. aka we have the same seats as last year. 7. I love this university, this team and the ROWDIES. We the ROWDIES will try everything in our power to get this team back to the dance this year, which includes getting a win on Wednesday night. Buffalo's in Canada, Can't State Sucks and GO ZIPS!!!

I'm sorry but I didn't feel like driving 2 hrs just to watch a basketball game and I'm sure most students feel the same as me. Football maybe I would drive, soccer never...It's not very smart to schedule that many home games during break and then people complain no one is going

[MDZip]

This thread has been fun, especially with a few Bulls fans joining in so its time to "kick it up a notch" (and get away from whining at each other and aim it back at the Bulls) with the old look-a-like contest. Yes, I know some of you fear it, believing it has a curse. But its time to show that what we do on here doesn't actually matter in the outcome of games and this one was too good to pass up. So I give you:

[plowerman78]

which i understand thats why we put the point system in place. maybe that incentive is what people may need and it did some what as more people started to show after we put it in place. I understand and am not goign to get upset at anyone for not showing up during break. Not everyone can drive back for games hell myself i live over an hour away, that adds up after time. Especially when ur facing teams live valpo, malone, and jewish school of the blind, people are not going to come back for those games bc they know their team is going to win. We were just trying to help get more people to games.

[TrueBlue]

I'm sorry but I didn't feel like driving 2 hrs just to watch a basketball game

Yea, who would do that