Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I think everyone knows that the most likely tourney we will get into is the CBI. http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/index_main.htm That's all the info I could find on it. The brackets come out tonight, but I don't know when. Anyone else know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofan Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I think everyone knows that the most likely tourney we will get into is the CBI. http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/index_main.htm That's all the info I could find on it. The brackets come out tonight, but I don't know when. Anyone else know? NIT selection show is at 9pm. KDs post game show suggests theyve been in touch with CBI, and possibly hosting. the 16 teams will be finalized pretty quickly after the NIT show. In past I read you could host a game for 60K. Sounds like a lot but youd offset some of that with 2500 gate receipts and youd save cost of a chartered jet and hotel so while unlikely it is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 The NIT has to announce first. After that, the CBI and CIT announce. I don't know which is more important than the other. I've heard that the CIT is more prestigious. The CIT only takes teams from conferences that have less than 50% of their teams in the NCAA tournament, which makes it a tournament of good mid-major teams. The CBI is more of a tournament for BCS also-rans who couldn't get into the NIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I think everyone knows that the most likely tourney we will get into is the CBI. http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/index_main.htm That's all the info I could find on it. The brackets come out tonight, but I don't know when. Anyone else know? NIT selection show is at 9pm. KDs post game show suggests theyve been in touch with CBI, and possibly hosting. the 16 teams will be finalized pretty quickly after the NIT show. In past I read you could host a game for 60K. Sounds like a lot but youd offset some of that with 2500 gate receipts and youd save cost of a chartered jet and hotel so while unlikely it is possible. Paying $60K is a small price to ask to be able to continue practicing and playing after the season ends. Anything to get an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The NIT has to announce first. After that, the CBI and CIT announce. I don't know which is more important than the other. I've heard that the CIT is more prestigious. The CIT only takes teams from conferences that have less than 50% of their teams in the NCAA tournament, which makes it a tournament of good mid-major teams. The CBI is more of a tournament for BCS also-rans who couldn't get into the NIT. I've heard pig poop smells worse than horse poop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The NIT has to announce first. After that, the CBI and CIT announce. I don't know which is more important than the other. I've heard that the CIT is more prestigious. The CIT only takes teams from conferences that have less than 50% of their teams in the NCAA tournament, which makes it a tournament of good mid-major teams. The CBI is more of a tournament for BCS also-rans who couldn't get into the NIT. I've heard pig poop smells worse than horse poop. Okay, I give up. What the heck is the CIT? Isn't there a bank...oh, never mind. No, wait there's that computer company...nah, I'm sorry I asked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The CBI website will not come up right now. Either they're updating it with this year's teams, or it's just being overwhelmed by fans of teams that didn't make the NIT and want to know if they made the CBI. EDIT: It just came up for me, but no changes, so there's probably just a lot of traffic right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The site has been going on and off for me. Anyone have any ideas yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofan Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The site has been going on and off for me. Anyone have any ideas yet? Site is available sporadically. Probably being overloaded with hits. Best bet is probably channel 5s sports sunday tonight at 1125 or so. Ill bet KD will be on or at least theyll have info of where, when, if????? Some of you dont care if season is over ... I get that, but I personally hope they live to play another day for Jimmy and Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Word's starting to leak out. Someone on a Morehead State forum just said he had confirmed that their team was in the CBI, but no details yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 http://www.collegesports-fans.com/ncaa-tou...tournament.html CIT has some games confirmed. Could this possibly be the tourney we want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofan Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Interesting reading.................. Graham Couch column: Administration's decision to save money could prove costly for Western Michigan basketball program By Graham Couch | Kalamazoo Gazette March 14, 2010, 7:00AM CLEVELAND — In the midst of teary-eyed grief following a heartbreaking and potentially season-ending loss, one thought triggered hope and clarity from Steve Hawkins. Postseason play. “Oh, yeah — yeah, yeah, yeah,” Western Michigan University’s men’s basketball coach said, quickly perking up when asked about his interest in playing in a secondary postseason tournament. In seconds, Hawkins went from asking his fiancee for a tissue to dry his eyes to a look of boyish optimism. “It doesn’t matter to me what situation we play in,” Hawkins continued, shortly after his team fell to Akron, 66-64, Friday night in the Mid-American Conference tournament semifinals. “If we get a chance to play postseason, I hope we can, I hope we’re invited, I hope we get a chance to do it. I know the seniors don’t want their careers to end, and so if we get a chance to do it, we hope we can do it.” There’s a not-so underlying subtext to Hawkins’ thoughts on such an opportunity. It can be found in the phrase, “If we get a chance to play postseason, I hope we can.” Because the chance is likely to be there. But it’s not up to Hawkins. It’s up to WMU’s administration. The College Insider Tournament (CIT), a 16-team, four-round event that rivals the College Basketball Invitational (CBI), has expressed interest in WMU. Both are relatively new tournaments, both a step below the NIT. And both require host teams to pony up a significant sum of cash. In the CIT’s case, it’s $31,500 — the CBI calls for $60,000 — but the tournament covers 22 flights, the opponent’s meals and lodging, and the host school gets to keep anything it makes from the gate and concessions beyond the host fee. Even a moderately analytical cat with a journalism degree can do the math: Pull in 3,150 fans at $10 a ticket and it’s not a losing proposition — and wouldn’t be, in the long run, even if the numbers didn’t add up so easily. Somehow, that’s not the way the higher-ups at WMU see it. “We have talked to them,” athletics director Kathy Beauregard said of the folks at the CIT. “Very honestly, we know postseason is critical for us. We are not (based on planning) in a position right now to be able to commit to hosting a home game. It’s something we need to, and coach Hawkins and I have talked about it, put into our budget planning for the future. “You hope you’re always going for some sort of postseason play. We hadn’t planned for (the cost of the CIT). It would be a new expense even though we believe we can have some back. Right now, we’ve told them we are definitely interested in participating but we would not be putting that money forward right now to be able to host.” And that could be all the difference. Riley Wallace, chairman of the CIT selection committee, said Western Michigan was one of 8-10 teams “on hold” on the tournament’s bubble. The Broncos, with a record of 18-15 and an RPI of 150, might get an invitation regardless. Wallace called Hawkins “a good coach and a good friend,” which is significantly better than Hawkins’ relationship with the CBI, which two years ago he called “a joke” and accused of making deals “in the back of smoke-filled rooms.” But Wallace also made it clear that being willing to host “usually does” matter. “If they say they’ll host or host more than one game, that’s obviously a factor,” the former University of Hawaii coach said. What WMU decides — and this is well above Beauregard, who wouldn’t make such a bogus call, no matter how well she takes the hit for the company — says a ton about the university’s willingness to support its men’s basketball program and live up to its mantra of cherishing the student-athlete experience. WMU fired a women’s basketball coach and kept a hockey coach in large part because of this philosophy. Now it has a chance to extend the careers of three seniors, and the season for more than a dozen players, including its all-time leading scorer — and the possibility, even if unlikely, of losing one-tenth of what it immediately loses on a football bowl game may be how it thanks David Kool for four amazing years on the basketball court. Postseason is postseaon. Any mid-major college coach will agree it enriches their program and helps them sell it to recruits. At time when Hawkins and his staff are losing wide-eyed high school prospects because of languishing facilities and saw their scheduled overseas trip this summer canceled — at one time a selling point to any junior college big man — a decision to not play in the postseason, for a modest short-term price, would show a lack of long-term perspective. An article in Saturday’s Cleveland Plain Dealer lists Hawkins as one of Toledo’s primary targets for its head coaching vacancy. Hawkins isn’t going anywhere. But know this: Toledo, coming off a four-win season, is a better job — strictly based on facilities and financial commitment. You can bet the Rockets would pay to play in the postseason. We’ll probably know by late Sunday whether WMU is willing to really compete with the program at the bottom of its division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 If WMU gets an invite and won't pay to play it outs the WMU admin as one opposed to athletics, along with BGSU and EMU. I've been trying to guage where all the universities stand when it comes to athletic support. There are factions within the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 A Northwestern fan did a great job of confirming 13 of 16 CIT and 4 of 16 CBI bids before Northwestern made the NIT. But no UA yet. Link to Northwestern Fan Site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 A Northwestern fan did a great job of confirming 13 of 16 CIT and 4 of 16 CBI bids before Northwestern made the NIT. But no UA yet. Link to Northwestern Fan Site Just looking at the names, the CIT looks better. It's a tournament full of teams that look equal to Akron. Perfect to see just where we stand in the basketball world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofan Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Following up, apparently the great west conference winner has an automatic bid to the CIT ( who knew?). They( s. dakota) travel to Creighton. Northern Colorado is hosting Portland, and Appy state has been promised a home game against TBA on weds at 7. Southern Miss is at LA tech. and Fairfield is at Gerge mason. No word on UA but things are in motion.....keep your fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelegazna Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 A Northwestern fan did a great job of confirming 13 of 16 CIT and 4 of 16 CBI bids before Northwestern made the NIT. But no UA yet. Link to Northwestern Fan Site Just looking at the names, the CIT looks better. It's a tournament full of teams that look equal to Akron. Perfect to see just where we stand in the basketball world. The CIT only takes non-big-6 conferences. The CBI is like A NIT lite. I kind of want the CBI because I do want a chance at another "Big Six" scalp, like Florida State a couple years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 When the CBI is announced, the list will appear here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The site I linked to earlier is updating regularly. Only 2 slots left in the CBI and 10 in the CIT as I post this. Link to Northwestern Fan Site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelegazna Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 A Northwestern fan did a great job of confirming 13 of 16 CIT and 4 of 16 CBI bids before Northwestern made the NIT. But no UA yet. Link to Northwestern Fan Site That list is now complete for the CIT. It's the CBI or nothing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpsjugglerdude Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The site I linked to earlier is updating regularly. Only 2 slots left in the CBI and 10 in the CIT as I post this. Link to Northwestern Fan Site Says CIT is full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromdaBurgh Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The site I linked to earlier is updating regularly. Only 2 slots left in the CBI and 10 in the CIT as I post this. Link to Northwestern Fan Site Well..Dave..according to the link u provided..the CIT is closed and WE aren't in it...looks like the CBI or nothing at all. I "PERSONALLY" think we will be in the CBI with a game being played either Wed or Thursday...just my OPINION!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpsjugglerdude Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The site I linked to earlier is updating regularly. Only 2 slots left in the CBI and 10 in the CIT as I post this. Link to Northwestern Fan Site Well..Dave..according to the link u provided..the CIT is closed and WE aren't in it...looks like the CBI or nothing at all. I "PERSOANLLY" think we will be in the CBI with a game being played either Wed or Thursday...just my OPINION!!! In your opinion who would we be playing? I feel you know something we don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Here's another good site with the following: IUPUI at Akron: These were two schools specifically mentioned by Zvosec as schools that got screwed (my wording, not his) by the NIT after hugely successful seasons that ended with a heartbreaking loss in the conference tournament. IUPUI and Akron each advanced to their conference final this year and each won 24 games. The CIT is made for schools like these. DefiantlyDutch Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The site I linked to earlier is updating regularly. Only 2 slots left in the CBI and 10 in the CIT as I post this. Link to Northwestern Fan Site Well..Dave..according to the link u provided..the CIT is closed and WE aren't in it...looks like the CBI or nothing at all. I "PERSONALLY" think we will be in the CBI with a game being played either Wed or Thursday...just my OPINION!!! I personally really hope to see our boys play some more hoops. Especially Jimmy C & the fast developing Game Changer. Anyone up for 5 more wins? Let's Go Zips!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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