Now that's how you schedule for football

[GP1]

Schedule up and play up. The key factor is getting them to Akron. Buffalo has done what Akron only can dream of.

Isn't that what the Zips are doing this season? It is the dream come true about to become a nightmare.

UofA plays an even more difficult schedule than UB does. We play a I-AA team, they play a I-AA team. We play IU and KY on the road, they play two BCS teams on the road. We play Syracuse at home, they play UCONN at home (both Big East teams). We will go 1-3 with our ooc and they will go 1-3.

I can't believe some of you who think UofA should schedule up would also complain about the schedule we play and actually think UB is better scheduling than us.

[GP1]

I'm sorry, but I just can't see why anyone wants to defend why we should play a "lighter" schedule. Wouldn't you want to see us playing a BCS school as opposed to Morgan State? Isn't it more exciting for fans?

We're a MAC school. Going 7-5 or 8-4 makes no differnence to anyone on the large platform of college football. Therefore, scheduling a game against a nobody over a game against a BCS school makes no sense at all to me.

Again, you are thinking in the extreme. Morgan State is I-AA. One Morgan State is fine. Two probably not. Three, no way.

One PSU is fine, two probably not, three, no thanks.

Is it exciting for me to watch UofA take a beat down three of four ooc games against BCS teams? No. In fact, it is a comlete waste of time. Would I be more excited against Colorado State or New Mexico State or MTSU or Marshall? Hell yes! I want to watch the Zips play good competition against teams they have a realistic shot at beating and the other team has a realistic shot at beating the Zips. That's good competition. They are guaranteed to beat Morgan State. They are guaranteed to lose to PSU. They could beat a non-BCS team. I'll take the excitement of the unknown in a game matching two well equal teams rather than a certain loss or certain win.

My Bad.

Botom line for me is: Good Competition begets better competition, a stronger/better team, more wins against teams that actually mean something, puts UA on the map, begets national TV exposure where we don't embarrass ourselves, but instead leave an indelible "ZIPS are the real deal" mark on the psyche of NCAA football. GO ZIPS!!

Then why is the mac getting worse after a few years of success? The mac gets more TV exposure than ever and it gets worse.

The problem is you have to win more than one game against BCS teams for people to take note. In the mean time, we just continue to lose game after game ooc. It makes not sense whatsoever.

[Bull_In_Exile]

Schedule up and play up. The key factor is getting them to Akron. Buffalo has done what Akron only can dream of.

Isn't that what the Zips are doing this season? It is the dream come true about to become a nightmare.

UofA plays an even more difficult schedule than UB does. We play a I-AA team, they play a I-AA team. We play IU and KY on the road, they play two BCS teams on the road. We play Syracuse at home, they play UCONN at home (both Big East teams). We will go 1-3 with our ooc and they will go 1-3.

I can't believe some of you who think UofA should schedule up would also complain about the schedule we play and actually think UB is better scheduling than us.

2011 and 2012 are the years that UB is playing the scheudle that some people think is foolish (3 BCS teams)

[cornbread]

Schedule up and play up. The key factor is getting them to Akron. Buffalo has done what Akron only can dream of.

Isn't that what the Zips are doing this season? It is the dream come true about to become a nightmare.

UofA plays an even more difficult schedule than UB does. We play a I-AA team, they play a I-AA team. We play IU and KY on the road, they play two BCS teams on the road. We play Syracuse at home, they play UCONN at home (both Big East teams). We will go 1-3 with our ooc and they will go 1-3.

I can't believe some of you who think UofA should schedule up would also complain about the schedule we play and actually think UB is better scheduling than us.

Can you make sense of this picture for me? You seem to find meaning and order where I dare not look.

[GP1]

Schedule BCS teams, get the brand on tv, fill the coffers, and give the players what they want.

1. Why would you want your brand on TV getting its ass kicked by the competition? The last thing we want is the Zips on TV getting a beat down. This is like watching Kyle Petty race a car. You know he isn't going to win and you know he is a bad driver. Nobody goes to watch Kyle Petty.

2. They may fill the coffers, but when Joe Akron sees they are 1-3, they aren't going to fill any seats at The Big Dialer.

3. Give the players what they want? Why? They are the same guys who got the last coach fired. Why would we listen to them? Why would we have an AD? Just let the players run the program.

1. defeatist

2. they aren't going to get filled losing to Marshall

3. I don't even know where to begin with that. Support the team?

1. Realist

2. Who is the defeatist now? I'd much rather watch the Zips play Marshall than Syracuse. Syracuse is just a school everyone has forgotten about in a part of the country we could easily give back to Canada an not miss a step. There will only be between 15-20 K at the Syracuse game. Scheduling Marshall would pack the place with the Marshall crowd.

3. You support the team by putting them in a position to be successful. Your scheduling guarantees failure.

[GP1]

Schedule up and play up. The key factor is getting them to Akron. Buffalo has done what Akron only can dream of.

Isn't that what the Zips are doing this season? It is the dream come true about to become a nightmare.

UofA plays an even more difficult schedule than UB does. We play a I-AA team, they play a I-AA team. We play IU and KY on the road, they play two BCS teams on the road. We play Syracuse at home, they play UCONN at home (both Big East teams). We will go 1-3 with our ooc and they will go 1-3.

I can't believe some of you who think UofA should schedule up would also complain about the schedule we play and actually think UB is better scheduling than us.

Can you make sense of this picture for me? You seem to find meaning and order where I dare not look.

The Zips play Syracuse, GW, at Kentucky and at Indiana. UB plays UCONN, SB, at BC, at Pitt.

Throw out the I-AA teams. Kentucky is better than any team UB is playing. Indiana is on par with Pitt, UCONN and BC (believe me, the bottom of the Big Ten is just as good as the middle of the ACC). Syracuse...we'll see.

The point is everyone seems to think UB has come upon a great scheduling strategy. They are scheduling regional ooc games....so are we. The last time I checked, KY and IN both touch Ohio.

[cornbread]

Syracuse is just a school everyone has forgotton about in a part of the country we could easily give back to Canada an not miss a step.

What does that mean?

Picture is funny to me. What does it mean to you?

[cornbread]

The point is everyone seems to think UB has come upon a great scheduling strategy. They are scheduling regional ooc games....so are we. The last time I checked, KY and IN both tough Ohio.

What does it matter?

What do you see in the picture below?

[GP1]

The point is everyone seems to think UB has come upon a great scheduling strategy. They are scheduling regional ooc games....so are we. The last time I checked, KY and IN both tough Ohio.

What does it matter?

It's the posted topic......

[cornbread]

The point is everyone seems to think UB has come upon a great scheduling strategy. They are scheduling regional ooc games....so are we. The last time I checked, KY and IN both tough Ohio.

What does it matter?

It's the posted topic......

I don't want to get generational with you here. You seem like a hip young cat out on the prowl.

But the kids these days have a saying.

"Don't be a playa hater"

It is a good schedule. Most people seem to agree. And you seem angry at everybody and everything. Mad at Buffalo, mad at zipsnation, even angry with Canada and upstate NY.

[dreal1scout]

The point is everyone seems to think UB has come upon a great scheduling strategy. They are scheduling regional ooc games....so are we. The last time I checked, KY and IN both tough Ohio.

What does it matter?

What do you see in the picture below?

A Flamenco Dancer and 2 poodles.

[Zipmeister]

A picture of Darth pouring salt water,

its’ meaning to me - speculative fodder.

The questions been posed, schedule tough or schedule easy,

the debate to this point leaves me feeling quite queasy.

Perhaps it means if you’re in it knee deep,

You better bail fast - what you sow you will reap.

Schedule up and play up. The key factor is getting them to Akron. Buffalo has done what Akron only can dream of.

Isn't that what the Zips are doing this season? It is the dream come true about to become a nightmare.

UofA plays an even more difficult schedule than UB does. We play a I-AA team, they play a I-AA team. We play IU and KY on the road, they play two BCS teams on the road. We play Syracuse at home, they play UCONN at home (both Big East teams). We will go 1-3 with our ooc and they will go 1-3.

I can't believe some of you who think UofA should schedule up would also complain about the schedule we play and actually think UB is better scheduling than us.

Can you make sense of this picture for me? You seem to find meaning and order where I dare not look.

[cornbread]

A picture of Darth pouring salt water,

its’ meaning to me - speculative fodder.

The questions been posed, schedule tough or schedule easy,

the debate to this point leaves me feeling quite queasy.

Perhaps it means if you’re in it knee deep,

You better bail fast - what you sow you will reap.

FTW

[GP1]

It is a good schedule. Most people seem to agree. And you seem angry at everybody and everything. Mad at Buffalo, mad at zipsnation, even angry with Canada and upstate NY.

Actually, I'm at complete peace with everything. Over the past 20 years, I have come to understand what is wrong with the mac and UofA. It isn't as much anger as it is frustration. The mac and UofA remain on a constant building process that leads to nowhere.

[skip-zip]

Schedule BCS teams, get the brand on tv, fill the coffers, and give the players what they want.

1. Why would you want your brand on TV getting its ass kicked by the competition? The last thing we want is the Zips on TV getting a beat down. This is like watching Kyle Petty race a car. You know he isn't going to win and you know he is a bad driver. Nobody goes to watch K playyle Petty.

2. They may fill the coffers, but when Joe Akron sees they are 1-3, they aren't going to fill any seats at The Big Dialer.

3. Give the players what they want? Why? They are the same guys who got the last coach fired. Why would we listen to them? Why would we have an AD? Just let the players run the program.

Because it's better than the alternative, which is beating a nobody team, which NOBODY notices. And it IS an opportunity to win a game that would get attention, nationwide.

[Dr Z]

Because it's better than the alternative, which is beating a nobody team, which NOBODY notices. And it IS an opportunity to win a game that would get attention, nationwide.

"Get attention? Get attention? What do you mean?"

[MaxZIP]

I'm sorry, but I just can't see why anyone wants to defend why we should play a "lighter" schedule. Wouldn't you want to see us playing a BCS school as opposed to Morgan State? Isn't it more exciting for fans?

We're a MAC school. Going 7-5 or 8-4 makes no differnence to anyone on the large platform of college football. Therefore, scheduling a game against a nobody over a game against a BCS school makes no sense at all to me.

Again, you are thinking in the extreme. Morgan State is I-AA. One Morgan State is fine. Two probably not. Three, no way.

One PSU is fine, two probably not, three, no thanks.

Is it exciting for me to watch UofA take a beat down three of four ooc games against BCS teams? No. In fact, it is a comlete waste of time. Would I be more excited against Colorado State or New Mexico State or MTSU or Marshall? Hell yes! I want to watch the Zips play good competition against teams they have a realistic shot at beating and the other team has a realistic shot at beating the Zips. That's good competition. They are guaranteed to beat Morgan State. They are guaranteed to lose to PSU. They could beat a non-BCS team. I'll take the excitement of the unknown in a game matching two well equal teams rather than a certain loss or certain win.

I would love to see teams on the lower end of the BCS success cycle(Maryland, BC, UCONN, Syracuse, Virginia, Iowa State, Indiana). Who cares about MTSU (Besides Mr. Holcomb) and New Mexico State. Colorado State would be ok and Marshall would be better than average. Schedule up and play up. The key factor is getting them to Akron. Buffalo has done what Akron only can dream of. I still remember the hype surrounding when Wisconsin visited Can't. Bringing top teams to Akron will do more for the program and the school than even joining C-USA. Grab the attention of local fans.

Orlando Sentinel Link

No. 120 Eastern Michigan

No. 119 FIU

No. 118 Western Kentucky

No. 117 Miami (Ohio)

No. 116 Tulane

No. 115 Memphis

No. 114 San Jose State

No. 113 North Texas

No. 112 Washington State

No. 111 Toledo

No. 110 UNLV

No. 109 New Mexico

No. 108 Colorado State

No. 107 Rice

No. 106 Ball St.

No. 105 Utah St.

No. 104 Syracuse

Would you really like to bring in some crap teams ad "enjoy" the game? I know they ar preseason rankings and all but either traveling to or getting them to travel here would be a huge waste of money.

[lance99]

I'm sorry, but I just can't see why anyone wants to defend why we should play a "lighter" schedule. Wouldn't you want to see us playing a BCS school as opposed to Morgan State? Isn't it more exciting for fans?

We're a MAC school. Going 7-5 or 8-4 makes no differnence to anyone on the large platform of college football. Therefore, scheduling a game against a nobody over a game against a BCS school makes no sense at all to me.

Again, you are thinking in the extreme. Morgan State is I-AA. One Morgan State is fine. Two probably not. Three, no way.

One PSU is fine, two probably not, three, no thanks.

Is it exciting for me to watch UofA take a beat down three of four ooc games against BCS teams? No. In fact, it is a comlete waste of time. Would I be more excited against Colorado State or New Mexico State or MTSU or Marshall? Hell yes! I want to watch the Zips play good competition against teams they have a realistic shot at beating and the other team has a realistic shot at beating the Zips. That's good competition. They are guaranteed to beat Morgan State. They are guaranteed to lose to PSU. They could beat a non-BCS team. I'll take the excitement of the unknown in a game matching two well equal teams rather than a certain loss or certain win.

I would love to see teams on the lower end of the BCS success cycle(Maryland, BC, UCONN, Syracuse, Virginia, Iowa State, Indiana). Who cares about MTSU (Besides Mr. Holcomb) and New Mexico State. Colorado State would be ok and Marshall would be better than average. Schedule up and play up. The key factor is getting them to Akron. Buffalo has done what Akron only can dream of. I still remember the hype surrounding when Wisconsin visited Can't. Bringing top teams to Akron will do more for the program and the school than even joining C-USA. Grab the attention of local fans.

Orlando Sentinel Link

No. 120 Eastern Michigan

No. 119 FIU

No. 118 Western Kentucky

No. 117 Miami (Ohio)

No. 116 Tulane

No. 115 Memphis

No. 114 San Jose State

No. 113 North Texas

No. 112 Washington State

No. 111 Toledo

No. 110 UNLV

No. 109 New Mexico

No. 108 Colorado State

No. 107 Rice

No. 106 Ball St.

No. 105 Utah St.

No. 104 Syracuse

Would you really like to bring in some crap teams ad "enjoy" the game? I know they ar preseason rankings and all but either traveling to or getting them to travel here would be a huge waste of money.

Remember, Wisconsin visited Can't as a favor! Can't still had to pay their travel expenses and they still could not sell it out!

Bringing in bad BCS teams can just be as bad (Indiana anyone?). Noone will care if you beat up on them. You need mid-range BCS teams to beat up on, then people will start to care.

[MaxZIP]

I'm sorry, but I just can't see why anyone wants to defend why we should play a "lighter" schedule. Wouldn't you want to see us playing a BCS school as opposed to Morgan State? Isn't it more exciting for fans?

We're a MAC school. Going 7-5 or 8-4 makes no differnence to anyone on the large platform of college football. Therefore, scheduling a game against a nobody over a game against a BCS school makes no sense at all to me.

Again, you are thinking in the extreme. Morgan State is I-AA. One Morgan State is fine. Two probably not. Three, no way.

One PSU is fine, two probably not, three, no thanks.

Is it exciting for me to watch UofA take a beat down three of four ooc games against BCS teams? No. In fact, it is a comlete waste of time. Would I be more excited against Colorado State or New Mexico State or MTSU or Marshall? Hell yes! I want to watch the Zips play good competition against teams they have a realistic shot at beating and the other team has a realistic shot at beating the Zips. That's good competition. They are guaranteed to beat Morgan State. They are guaranteed to lose to PSU. They could beat a non-BCS team. I'll take the excitement of the unknown in a game matching two well equal teams rather than a certain loss or certain win.

I would love to see teams on the lower end of the BCS success cycle(Maryland, BC, UCONN, Syracuse, Virginia, Iowa State, Indiana). Who cares about MTSU (Besides Mr. Holcomb) and New Mexico State. Colorado State would be ok and Marshall would be better than average. Schedule up and play up. The key factor is getting them to Akron. Buffalo has done what Akron only can dream of. I still remember the hype surrounding when Wisconsin visited Can't. Bringing top teams to Akron will do more for the program and the school than even joining C-USA. Grab the attention of local fans.

Orlando Sentinel Link

No. 120 Eastern Michigan

No. 119 FIU

No. 118 Western Kentucky

No. 117 Miami (Ohio)

No. 116 Tulane

No. 115 Memphis

No. 114 San Jose State

No. 113 North Texas

No. 112 Washington State

No. 111 Toledo

No. 110 UNLV

No. 109 New Mexico

No. 108 Colorado State

No. 107 Rice

No. 106 Ball St.

No. 105 Utah St.

No. 104 Syracuse

Would you really like to bring in some crap teams ad "enjoy" the game? I know they ar preseason rankings and all but either traveling to or getting them to travel here would be a huge waste of money.

Remember, Wisconsin visited Can't as a favor! Can't still had to pay their travel expenses and they still could not sell it out!

Bringing in bad BCS teams can just be as bad (Indiana anyone?). Noone will care if you beat up on them. You need mid-range BCS teams to beat up on, then people will start to care.

Mid-range BCS (Maryland, BC, UCONN, Syracuse, Virginia, Iowa State, Indiana) have good and bad years in typically a 3-5 year cycle. I advocate putting them on the schedule when they are low and play them when they are mid to high. Scheduled 1 for 1 games are arranged at least 1-2 year prior to the first game.

BTW you remember the situation surrounding the Wisconsin/Can't game because Wisconsin came to Can't. Can you tell me the situation surrounding and the attendance of any other non BCS OCC game that took place years ago in DIX stadium off the top of your head?

[lance99]

Now I am starting to think about it more and more, it was Minnesota who went to Can't in 2006(unless Wisconsin went there also). The reason I remember this because Terry Pluto had an article in the beacon about having traffic jams to get there and then coach Glen Mason Was the coach there back in the 1980's and he was trying to help them out.

[johnnyzip84]

Now I am starting to think about it more and more, it was Minnesota who went to Can't in 2006(unless Wisconsin went there also). The reason I remember this because Terry Pluto had an article in the beacon about having traffic jams to get there and then coach Glen Mason Was the coach there back in the 1980's and he was trying to help them out.

It was definitely Minnesota (Link), not Wisconsin.

Link

[MDZip]

MaxZIP said:

MaxZIP said:

GP1 said:

skip-zip said:

I'm sorry, but I just can't see why anyone wants to defend why we should play a "lighter" schedule. Wouldn't you want to see us playing a BCS school as opposed to Morgan State? Isn't it more exciting for fans?

We're a MAC school. Going 7-5 or 8-4 makes no differnence to anyone on the large platform of college football. Therefore, scheduling a game against a nobody over a game against a BCS school makes no sense at all to me.

Again, you are thinking in the extreme. Morgan State is I-AA. One Morgan State is fine. Two probably not. Three, no way.

One PSU is fine, two probably not, three, no thanks.

Is it exciting for me to watch UofA take a beat down three of four ooc games against BCS teams? No. In fact, it is a comlete waste of time. Would I be more excited against Colorado State or New Mexico State or MTSU or Marshall? Hell yes! I want to watch the Zips play good competition against teams they have a realistic shot at beating and the other team has a realistic shot at beating the Zips. That's good competition. They are guaranteed to beat Morgan State. They are guaranteed to lose to PSU. They could beat a non-BCS team. I'll take the excitement of the unknown in a game matching two well equal teams rather than a certain loss or certain win.

 

I would love to see teams on the lower end of the BCS success cycle(Maryland, BC, UCONN, Syracuse, Virginia, Iowa State, Indiana). Who cares about MTSU (Besides Mr. Holcomb) and New Mexico State. Colorado State would be ok and Marshall would be better than average. Schedule up and play up. The key factor is getting them to Akron. Buffalo has done what Akron only can dream of. I still remember the hype surrounding when Wisconsin visited Can't. Bringing top teams to Akron will do more for the program and the school than even joining C-USA. Grab the attention of local fans.

 

Orlando Sentinel Link

No. 120 Eastern Michigan

No. 119 FIU

No. 118 Western Kentucky

No. 117 Miami (Ohio)

No. 116 Tulane

No. 115 Memphis

No. 114 San Jose State

No. 113 North Texas

No. 112 Washington State

No. 111 Toledo

No. 110 UNLV

No. 109 New Mexico

No. 108 Colorado State

No. 107 Rice

No. 106 Ball St.

No. 105 Utah St.

No. 104 Syracuse

Would you really like to bring in some crap teams ad "enjoy" the game? I know they ar preseason rankings and all but either traveling to or getting them to travel here would be a huge waste of money.

 

I'm more amazed that we are not in the bottom 15, I'm betting we show up pretty soon. Not surprised that EMU is ranked last though, but the stadium they had in the picture in the accompanying article looked familiar.

 

Edited March 11, 2016 by MDZip

[ZippyTuba11]

I think this debate is laughable. What it really comes down to:

Winning = good

Losing = bad

Lots of wins = really good

Lots of losses = really bad

Doesn't really matter who provides the W's and L's.

[MaxZIP]

I think this debate is laughable. What it really comes down to:

Winning = good

Losing = bad

Lots of wins = really good

Lots of losses = really bad

Doesn't really matter who provides the W's and L's.

See basketball SOS discussion please.

[ZippyTuba11]

I think this debate is laughable. What it really comes down to:

Winning = good

Losing = bad

Lots of wins = really good

Lots of losses = really bad

Doesn't really matter who provides the W's and L's.

See basketball SOS discussion please.

UA basketball is a winning program and has the luxury to worry about sos.

But until the football program starts getting more W's than L's, I don't care who they play. Winning is still better than losing at this point.