Biggest A-hole fans in the MAC!

[JP Morgan]

I don't know about their fans overall, but Ohio U internet fans are big A-holes. "Internet fans" can be defined as those fans of a school who routinely post on MAC sports fan sites. I say Ohio fans have no A-hole rival. This whole "flagship of the MAC" thing is a joke! If there was a "flagship" it certainly wouldn't be them. If you read MACbbs, they are incesently putting down Akron and downplaying our successes. If we "happen" to beat them in football, which we've done for the past like 8 years, it's not that we beat them, its that they"laid an egg" or "had a bad day." Reagrding our win over NIU this year, one Ohio fan said....."it was fluke." And these one line posts like "Akron is terrible" is another example of their complex with us. Fact of the matter is punk them routinely in football and basketball and they're bitter about it. We own them in just about every sport yet they say its all a fluke. OU has the biggest A-holes!

Anyone else have an opinion?

[Buckzip]

UA may be terrible, but we still beat OU.

[Hilltopper]

I would say that its a close race between OU, Bgsu, Toledo, and Miami. Those four schools fans consider their programs to be "legacys". Its obvious to them that any loss to one of the "lesser" programs is always a fluke. Thats why it about killed them when Marshall came in and dominated in football. Its time for a new era in MAC sports. I saw Mike Thomas at the game today and thanked him for leaving the program in better shape than when he arrived

[Zipsrifle]

OU fans piss me off on the BBS because instead of posting things about their school on their website, they post it to everyone in the MAC. I nose around the BBS, but don't post tht often. Unfortunately, everytime I log on I have to see how the OU winter outdoor ping pong team is ranked 3rd in the county, or how their psychology department has purchased a new couch! F that.

And to all who said that the OU fans have a superiority complex, I hear that! After beating them last year in Athens, I listened to the post game show on the way home. All I heard was how Akron sucks and OU really was the better team and how a few fumbles were the only reason Akron won. Then, Last week, I pulled in the OU broadcast over the internet. The announcers were still getting in jabs at us even as kicked their butts.

I would breakdown the Miami fans attitudes into their sports attitude and their "Other" attitude. They essentially dominate us in sports, so I don't get pissed when they blow us off. We haven't done anything to prove otherwise. On the "Other" front, they seem to have an overall superiority complex over the rest of the MAC schools. I got into it a year or two ago with some Miami fan who was a lawyer, and because Miami graduates Buisnessmen and Lawyers, they are superior. We fired back with some stats about UA and our areas of strength. I think he learned a few things about UA and conceded that Akron isn't a breeding ground for idiots, and we do have well regarded areas of study. It's simply the difference between the rich and the blue collar. They go to school driving a new BMW and we got to school with 15 year old POS with the rear side window replaced by Duct tape. Of course they will think they are better.

[IBleedMACGreen]

Glad to see you guys let a few fans shape the opinion you have for an entire fan base for one school. I have had similar problems with a few select Northern Illinois fans. They seem like promoting the MAC is a BAD thing or they do not care. Little do they realize that every step the conference makes as a whole it only helps the entire Mid-American Conference! But I refuse to allow the actions and words of a few fans shape my entire opinion of NIU fans. There are tens of thousands of NIU and Ohio fans across the country and I find it disappointing that a handful of fans, maybe 3-5 of them, cause you to have such hatred.

[Kit-Cat]

I think its funny how MAC fans are upset at how Marshall degraded the MAC for low attendance numbers, yet when one of their own who struggles for attendance (Akron) wins the division.......they make a huge deal about how the Zips won't support the MACC and be a nightmare for the bowl selection committee.

Hypocrisy at its finest. Its great that the MACC finally has some new blood, and to be honest it doesn't really matter how many fans Akron takes to Detroit. The idea behind Ford Field is the venue.

Let's say Akron wins the MACC and is selected by the GMAC bowl. Why not? Nobody else from the MAC would take more than a thousand anyway down to Mobile.

I've been telling everyone in the MAC that Akron is the team of the future. As usual, I'm right again as Akron wins the MACC despite replacing Charlie Frye.

Those who think BG and Miami have the talent of OSU and Michigan and will rule the division forever are morons, plain and simple.

[GP1]

Let's say Akron wins the MACC and is selected by the GMAC bowl. Why not? Nobody else from the MAC would take more than a thousand anyway down to Mobile.

I've been telling everyone in the MAC that Akron is the team of the future. As usual, I'm right again as Akron wins the MACC despite replacing Charlie Frye.

Those who think BG and Miami have the talent of OSU and Michigan and will rule the division forever are morons, plain and simple.

This is a really good post.

MAC attendance is a problem everywhere. On a beautiful fall day, only approximately 8,000 showed up for the BG vs. Akron game. As far as bowl attendance, this poster is exactly right also. Last year at the Indy Bowl in LA, I listened to the AD from Miami, at a pregame party, beg the audience for ideas on how to get more people to the games. Hardly anyone from Miami came to the game and the Iowa State side looked like the entire state showed up.

Akron is the team of the future. Winning the MAC East puts us one leg up further on the competition.

As far as Miami and BG, Don Rumsfeld might call them the "Old MAC". They should change their names to France and Germany. Time has moved past these programs and they do not have what Akron has to keep them on top of the league. They will continue to tell themselves how great they are, but eveyone will know better.

[Buckzip]

I truly believe if we had a nice new stadium on campus that not only woudl the students support the team more, but the community would too.

I could see 20,000+ at home games.

[JP Morgan]

Glad to see you guys let a few fans shape the opinion you have for an entire fan base for one school. I have had similar problems with a few select Northern Illinois fans. They seem like promoting the MAC is a BAD thing or they do not care. Little do they realize that every step the conference makes as a whole it only helps the entire Mid-American Conference! But I refuse to allow the actions and words of a few fans shape my entire opinion of NIU fans. There are tens of thousands of NIU and Ohio fans across the country and I find it disappointing that a handful of fans, maybe 3-5 of them, cause you to have such hatred.

This is a BS, politically correct post if I've ever seen one. Read the post dumbass, I said "INTERNET FANS" not "ALL FANS." But since you want to talk about "all fans, I say OU fans get all they deserve. Its not just one or two of them its every one I've met or come in contact with. Don't tell me not to generalize when I've yet to meet someone from OU who hasn't ripped or degraded Akron. I see it on the net, I see it from their fans at the games and from their radio announcers. Their "elitism" may not be absolute but it is pervasive to say the least.

[HuskieMobileMan]

Let's say Akron wins the MACC and is selected by the GMAC bowl. Why not? Nobody else from the MAC would take more than a thousand anyway down to Mobile.

n and simple.

So you are saying that NIU would bring 4,000+ less fans to Mobile than we did to California last year for the SVFC last year? Think again man.

I would say that NIU would bring 5K or so to Mobile for the Bowl. No way Akron brings that many down there. Excitement is at an all time high for Huskie Football.

[zipsbandman]

I think its funny how MAC fans are upset at how Marshall degraded the MAC for low attendance numbers, yet when one of their own who struggles for attendance (Akron) wins the division.......they make a huge deal about how the Zips won't support the MACC and be a nightmare for the bowl selection committee.

Hypocrisy at its finest. Its great that the MACC finally has some new blood, and to be honest it doesn't really matter how many fans Akron takes to Detroit. The idea behind Ford Field is the venue.

Let's say Akron wins the MACC and is selected by the GMAC bowl. Why not? Nobody else from the MAC would take more than a thousand anyway down to Mobile.

I've been telling everyone in the MAC that Akron is the team of the future. As usual, I'm right again as Akron wins the MACC despite replacing Charlie Frye.

Those who think BG and Miami have the talent of OSU and Michigan and will rule the division forever are morons, plain and simple.

You're all right Kit-Cat. You summed up everything. What is so wrong with having two new teams in the MACC? What is wrong with showing the nation that the MAC is more than just Miami, Toledo, and BG? BG only drew 8k when we played them. Yet nobody jumps on them. Miami consistently draws flies even with all their history. But lets not jump on the sweaters. I'm sick of hearing how much of a disaster the MACC will be. The zipnation is fired up and so is our team. It's our turn baby!

[msopher]

First off don't listen to Kitkat because he generally doesn't know what he is talking about. Second, MAC fans do get on ALL teams for attendance lags including the Big 4 if you want to call them that. Having Akron in the MACC is great for the conference but bad for the GMAC and the Motor City Bowl because these 2 bowls want the teams who bring the most fans. I understand that BG, Miami, and maybe NIU and UT have nothing to brag about in regards to attendance but they consistently draw 15,000+ a game and would travel better than Akron to a bowl game. It's all about revenue folks, even with the smaller bowls. If Akron can next year bring attendance up significantly then I think they should have no problem getting a bowl if they have a winning record. Akron only gets in this year if they win the MACC and I don't see that happening.

[Quickzips]

I'm gonna go out and say something that will really get me pissed on by this board. I think the most pleasent fan base around (besides the Zips) may very well be Can't. Buffalo is pretty good as well, as is NIU. Come to think of it, other than those three teams, the rest of them have far too many true and complete assholes.

OU fans get absolutley ridiculous with thier never ending posts about updates to the campus dog shelter, the ranking of their intramural badmitton team, and how many hot chicks they can fit into a phone booth. Sorry to say it Kit-Kat as I did like your post but you have notoriously been one of the worst when it comes to this.

Toledo fans just can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that they aren't a Big 10 team. It's ridiculous watching them flaunt their accomplishments like they have the world by the balls.

Miami fans may be the worst. I'm so fed up with the talk on hawktalk and MACbbs about how our fan support sucks. Granted they have had our number in recent years, but with all the success they have had you would think they would be able to pull in a packed house week in and week out. They can't, but yet they still get all over our ass about having weak attendance.

BGSU fans have been a little less blatant in their assholishness, and I will admit that many such as 1987alum have been very respectful. But you read ay-ziggy-zoomba and a lot of fans just can't get passed the fact that we beat them. The way they claim that w/ Omar they would have one is ridiculous too. Not only is it irrelevant b/c they didn't have Omar, but it is what you get when you base your entire season on ONE STINKING PLAYER. Wake up and smell the coffee guys. If you are that reliant on Omar you guys are gonna plummet in the MAC whenever he leaves.

Overall I am incredibly frustrated with MAC fans right now. If you haven't done so lately I suggest a trip to MACbbs. You might be surprised to find the ways in which we as a team and a fanbase are getting disrespected.

[Zipsrifle]

I must have misread the "Internet" part. Here's my take on the rest of the MAC Schools.

Can't: Internet interaction leads me to believe their BB team should have been NCAA Champs the past 5 years. Day to day interaction leads me to believe they don't really care about their sports. Most of the Can't fans I know are "Ohio State" fans. Sounds familiar huh?

Buffalo: Internet interacion leads me to believe they are just trying to get things going. They aren't overly boastful about any teams that are good. Example: when their soccer team was ranked and played ours, they didn't say they were going to kill us, they said something to the effect that they thought they were talented to beat us. Day to day interacton leads me to believe they don't really care about their sports.

BG: Internet interaction leads me to believe they are realistic about their chances. I know TONS of people from BG and most of them again, don't really follow the sports. Those that do claim their favorite team as Michigan or OSU. I see a trend starting here.

Toledo: The ones on the internet are pretty confident in their teams ability. I would too if we dominated the MAC for like the last 20 years. Can't be sour on them for that. They seem to have a realistic viewpoint on the rest of the league too. As for the Toledo grads I know day to day....well, I don't want to keep repeating myself (UofM, OSU)

NIU: I don't personally know any NIU grads. The Internet interaction I've had, they seem to also have a realistic expectation of what will happen. There are some AH, but which teams don't have that?

Ball State: They seem to be a very optimistic bunch. No real life interaction, just on the internet.

Eastern: Eastern fans seem to be pretty level headed too. I know a couple and really haven't had much interaciton in the net. "Their Team" is UofM or MSU.

Central: I think central fans are great. There are a lot near where I live and they've always been cool. (UofM, MSU)

Western: I only know one person from Western and he's cool. I just hate their fightsong and that line they play EVERY FIRST DOWN!

Just to elaborate on OU and Miami more. I know quite a few people from Miami and almost all of them have the superority complex. As for OU, the radio announcers from the past two seasons and Kit-Kat have shaped my view of that school.

[msopher]

I'm gonna go out and say something that will really get me pissed on by this board. I think the most pleasent fan base around (besides the Zips) may very well be Can't. Buffalo is pretty good as well, as is NIU. Come to think of it, other than those three teams, the rest of them have far too many true and complete assholes.

OU fans get absolutley ridiculous with thier never ending posts about updates to the campus dog shelter, the ranking of their intramural badmitton team, and how many hot chicks they can fit into a phone booth. Sorry to say it Kit-Kat as I did like your post but you have notoriously been one of the worst when it comes to this.

Toledo fans just can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that they aren't a Big 10 team. It's ridiculous watching them flaunt their accomplishments like they have the world by the balls.

Miami fans may be the worst. I'm so fed up with the talk on hawktalk and MACbbs about how our fan support sucks. Granted they have had our number in recent years, but with all the success they have had you would think they would be able to pull in a packed house week in and week out. They can't, but yet they still get all over our ass about having weak attendance.

BGSU fans have been a little less blatant in their assholishness, and I will admit that many such as 1987alum have been very respectful. But you read ay-ziggy-zoomba and a lot of fans just can't get passed the fact that we beat them. The way they claim that w/ Omar they would have one is ridiculous too. Not only is it irrelevant b/c they didn't have Omar, but it is what you get when you base your entire season on ONE STINKING PLAYER. Wake up and smell the coffee guys. If you are that reliant on Omar you guys are gonna plummet in the MAC whenever he leaves.

Overall I am incredibly frustrated with MAC fans right now. If you haven't done so lately I suggest a trip to MACbbs. You might be surprised to find the ways in which we as a team and a fanbase are getting disrespected.

You may want to take NIU out of your nice list.

[mollautt]

Just to elaborate on OU and Miami more. I know quite a few people from Miami and almost all of them have the superority complex.

=>Aw, you're just jealous of us RedHawks because we bring 14k to our home games versus your piddly 12k.

[Quickzips]

Why? I know they are talking like they will slaughter us, but so is everyone else in the MAC. I think the only people who think we will win this game are zips fans, and even some zips fans don't think we stand a chance. Their fanbase at least is underestimating us again and I've tried to warn them on their bbs board. Whether or not their team follows the same trend or anyone listens is not for me to decide. I can handle some smack talk which is about all it is. It doesn't bother me. I've done my fair share of smack too. What I can't handle is the blatant disrespect that many Toledo, Miami, and OU and some BG fans have made towards our team and our fanbase. The last straw for me was when a Toledo fan confidently claimed that Akron will not bring more than 50 people to the game. That goes beyond smack talk and into blatant disrespect.

[msopher]

Why? I know they are talking like they will slaughter us, but so is everyone else in the MAC. I think the only people who think we will win this game are zips fans, and even some zips fans don't think we stand a chance. Their fanbase at least is underestimating us again and I've tried to warn them on their bbs board. Whether or not their team follows the same trend or anyone listens is not for me to decide. I can handle some smack talk which is about all it is. It doesn't bother me. I've done my fair share of smack too. What I can't handle is the blatant disrespect that many Toledo, Miami, and OU and some BG fans have made towards our team and our fanbase. The last straw for me was when a Toledo fan confidently claimed that Akron will not bring more than 50 people to the game. That goes beyond smack talk and into blatant disrespect.

[Dr Z]

I know they are talking like they will slaughter us, but so is everyone else in the MAC.  I think the only people who think we will win this game are zips fans, and even some zips fans don't think we stand a chance. 

I think we stand a small chance

[Kit-Cat]

I know they are talking like they will slaughter us, but so is everyone else in the MAC.  I think the only people who think we will win this game are zips fans, and even some zips fans don't think we stand a chance. 

I think we stand a small chance

Yeah its not like you are going against #2 Texas in this championship game.

[Kit-Cat]

Just to elaborate on OU and Miami more. I know quite a few people from Miami and almost all of them have the superority complex. As for OU, the radio announcers from the past two seasons and Kit-Kat have shaped my view of that school.

There is a superiority complex out there by Miami and OU.

Miami feels they are superior to everyone because they have higher admission standards for freshman than other MAC schools. I know Miami band members who taunt opposing MAC schools as "Open Admissions". To be honest, that is the only thing Miami has going for it.

The OU superiority complex is the result of many of our students being from the Akron area. It is pretty clear that OU has the better college town and stadium than Akron and Can't. With Can't and Akron (until this year) not playing for the the post season, OU fans expect to beat those two schools in football and if they don't the situation is pretty pathetic.

Outsiders to OU view bobcat football as being on par with Buffalo or Can't State because they don't have the wins, but OU people believe we are an underperforming Miami and are baffled by our inability to win.

[Kit-Cat]

I truly believe if we had a nice new stadium on campus that not only woudl the students support the team more, but the community would too.

I could see 20,000+ at home games.

The potential to draw at Akron looks pretty big.

Isn't the all time record crowd something like 43,000 in the rubber bowl?

[RocketRobert]

Congrats to you guys for representing the East in the MACC. You earned it fair and square and it represents a great accomplishment by your team. I wish you success in mobilizing a big crowd for the game. If anyone is straddling the fence as regards staying home vs driving up, just GO! The Ford is a really cool venue and you can have a great pregame experience at Hockeytown Cafe across the street. (I strongly suggest making a reservation well in advance, though. It does get pretty full a couple hours before game time.) There is a parking garage right next to Hockeytown and there are a good number of small lot's within walking distance. You'll have a great time. I would go myself, but I have to take off work for midweek games. While it's not "impossible" for me, it's not a good thing to do too often..if ya know what I mean.

This talk about the MACC being "meaningless" without a bowl invite--baloney! Winning your division is a big honor and the MACC is the ultimate goal for any MAC team. A bowl is just icing on the cake. While I'm thrilled that UT has been invited to the GMAC, I do think it sucks that that you guys weren't. Actually, I think it sucks that the bowl system is about 90% commercialism. College athletics is not "professional" sports and it's a shame that commercialism has become such a large part of it. OTOH, I suppose the argument could be made that without the commercialism there would probably only be a handful of bowls and a lot fewer teams would ever have an opportunity for post season play. None-the-less, the selection system stinks and I wish the NCAA had the fortitude to fix it. Anyway, hang in there. Maybe there is still an invititation in your future.

I've been to the Rubber Bowl once, quite a few years ago--you guys beat us so I never went back! I thought it was kind of a cool stadium, but kind of weird, too. I hope the success you had this year leads to a new stadium for you, if that's what you feel you need.

As far as Toledo fans feeling our team is somehow "elite," well--I guess the team's successes from 2000 forward may have gone to our heads a little. But, don't worry, we've had our share of humiliation, too. While we set some attendance records in '01, it hasn't been exactly "stellar" since then and that is a source of frustration for us, too.

Congrats again on a greatly improving program. I'll be watching you Thursday!

[JP Morgan]

The OU superiority complex is the result of many of our students being from the Akron area. It is pretty clear that OU has the better college town and stadium than Akron and Can't. With Can't and Akron (until this year) not playing for the the post season, OU fans expect to beat those two schools in football and if they don't the situation is pretty pathetic.

That's funny because I (an Akron grad) always expect to beat OU. Not because of anything other than the fact that Akron in recent years has owned OU in football and has been competetive with OU in basketball. But then again, those are just facts.....who needs facts?

It is pretty clear that OU has the better college town

Have you been to Akron recently? Exactly what makes OU so great?

[scottditzen]

Thanks for the post RocketRobert.