johnnyzip84 Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 1. They’ll be using the extra time between Ball St. and Miami to try to develop some of the red shirts. He cited Shrock, Chisolm, Suel (JC guy red shirts?.....must have been injured?), Micah Lio and I believe LT Smith by name. I assume this means they’d get some practice time with the 1st units. 2. They’ll also be doing some recruiting during this break between games. He referenced some new NCAA rule that allows for this. 3. He indicated LaFrance and Weber would probably be back for Miami. 4. He mentioned Brian Wagner quite a bit, pointing out his efforts on special teams as well. He said “the best thing about Brian is that he’s a sophomore”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Recruiting?? Couldn't happen soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Thanks for posting. By your number (1) topic, I'm deducing that iCoach is not happy with the receiving corp. At the beginning of the year, I was excited to get Frisman as a coach, I was hoping he could get this group to play well. I would have like to spoken with him at some point and time. I would have done it at the golf outing except for one thing. One question I would ask. We roll out PN7 to one side of the field and send one receiver out in a route. I have seen our QB get sacked or throw the ball away or incomplete every time they run this. I have never seen it work. Last night the Texans tried the the exact same play with arguably the best receiver in the league...same exact result. Even coach Gruden made a comment about it. WHY in the world is this a play in anybody's playbook? It's not even a big gain if it works?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I'm not sure that he was commenting on the receiving corps as much as lamenting the lack of time he has had to develop some of the guys who will NOT see the field this year. He keeps complaining about a lack of numbers, and how the players have to "service" themselves......whatever that means. Forgot to mention that iCoach complained some about THIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 did he throw out that line about "if we didn't give up those plays that made us lose the game, we wouldn't have lost the game" line again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Forgot to mention that iCoach complained some about THIS.He is 100% right. I hope he can fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 did he throw out that line about "if we didn't give up those plays that made us lose the game, we wouldn't have lost the game" line again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronad Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Forgot to mention that iCoach complained some about THIS.He is 100% right. I hope he can fix it. Icoach is correct. No matter if it is from Glenville, Buchtel, Hoover, Cardinal Mooney, etc., we need to get some of these players to Akron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 did he throw out that line about "if we didn't give up those plays that made us lose the game, we wouldn't have lost the game" line again? He did mention X plays (9 maybe) that went for a gazillion yards but the other 55 plays they were held to 150 yards or so. That reminds me after a 35-0 loss during the LO era his comment was you take 5 plays away, it is an even ball game. Sad to say, but I long for the LO days at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Forgot to mention that iCoach complained some about THIS.He is 100% right. I hope he can fix it. Icoach is correct. No matter if it is from Glenville, Buchtel, Hoover, Cardinal Mooney, etc., we need to get some of these players to Akron. If we had all those players from Ball State...maybe we could be as good as Ball State? Whoppee... History lesson -- Anyone remember when JD nabbed 3 kids from Glenville? Edit: None completed their eligibility at UA. The Zips aren't going to get better recruiting against the big boys who so grossly over-recruit schools like Glenville and Mooney. Ianello is going to have to work harder than that, and beat the bushes. JUCO, mid-and small-size high schools, Canada, Pittsburgh, and the Akron-Canton area as well. He's going to need to find stud athletes who want to play QB or RB, but whom the big schools want to convert to safety or linebacker. He needs to take an intelligent risk on a BCS transfer or two..or three. And obviously they need to sell a kid that's considering Pitt or Cincinnati...but who's certain to redshirt there...to come to UA and play immediately. We need more Richard Hall's. Not the #21 ranked kid on Glenville...which is all we can get after Ohio State, Iowa, Cincinnati and the rest of the BCS schools have their pick of the litter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 History lesson -- Anyone remember when JD nabbed 3 kids from Glenville? They all quit. Not entirely accurate. Donte Cloud refused to go to class and was a huge disciplinary problem. He played some his true freshman year and got kicked off the team by Brookhart, and probably would've failed out anyways, but he didn't quit. Jemall Benjamin actually seemed like a pretty good kid who was probably going to make it, until he was attacked in his sleep in the summer heading into his redshirt freshman year by some thug who had snuck into his house with a lead pipe. He ended up in intensive care, his noggin was never the same, and he couldn't get cleared to play. Didn't quit. Stephon Fuqua actually stayed, played, and was great in the classroom. If you want to say he "quit" before his senior year, I guess you could say that if you consider transferring quitting, but he transferred not because he couldn't hack it on the field or had problems with the coaches, but because he had already graduated and Akron did not offer the graduate degree that he was looking for. If ever there's a "right" reason to transfer, that's it right there. I'm not saying we should be beating down the door at Glenville, because I think a lot of those kids are the "high risk" recruits that JD had a flavor for, but of the Glenville 3 that JD recruited in his first class, you can really only say that one, Cloud, was a complete failure based on things within his own control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 I'm not saying we should be beating down the door at Glenville, because I think a lot of those kids are the "high risk" recruits that JD had a flavor for, but of the Glenville 3 that JD recruited in his first class, you can really only say that one, Cloud, was a complete failure based on things within his own control. Fair enough. I'm simply trying to point out that anyone enamored with kids from all-mighty Glenville needs to look elsewhere for their savior(s). Unless Ianello is truly the unbelievable, uber-recruiter that he's sold everyone on...he's simply going to be wasting his time at Glenville. The good kids will be gone to BCS schools. And only marginal kids, grade-wise or character-wise, with offers only from UA, Ball State, Prep schools and JUCO's will be left. He can't afford to waste that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 History lesson -- Anyone remember when JD nabbed 3 kids from Glenville? They all quit. Not entirely accurate. Donte Cloud refused to go to class and was a huge disciplinary problem. He played some his true freshman year and got kicked off the team by Brookhart, and probably would've failed out anyways, but he didn't quit. Jemall Benjamin actually seemed like a pretty good kid who was probably going to make it, until he was attacked in his sleep in the summer heading into his redshirt freshman year by some thug who had snuck into his house with a lead pipe. He ended up in intensive care, his noggin was never the same, and he couldn't get cleared to play. Didn't quit. Stephon Fuqua actually stayed, played, and was great in the classroom. If you want to say he "quit" before his senior year, I guess you could say that if you consider transferring quitting, but he transferred not because he couldn't hack it on the field or had problems with the coaches, but because he had already graduated and Akron did not offer the graduate degree that he was looking for. If ever there's a "right" reason to transfer, that's it right there. I'm not saying we should be beating down the door at Glenville, because I think a lot of those kids are the "high risk" recruits that JD had a flavor for, but of the Glenville 3 that JD recruited in his first class, you can really only say that one, Cloud, was a complete failure based on things within his own control. Where did you hear that story about Benjamin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Where did you hear that story about Benjamin?A "Jemall Benjamin hospitalized" google search found this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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