Why so much hate for the Buckeyes?

[johnnyzip84]

I suppose the original question is a fair one, particularly for someone new to the forum. An equally fair question however is "why so much love for them?".

[Buckzip]

This thread is priceless.

cool? i dont see what the big deal is, just looking for explanations

I understand the question. I meant some of the responses are priceless.

You need to read the thread about tat gate. Some of the responses near the end are awesome.

The SEC champ should get an automatic BCSG berth. LOL

The way that certain posters decide what is a big game and what is OOC and what counts and what doesn't is truly hilarious to read. They are so clueless about how scheduling and college football works that it is a joy to read. They must think that these games are made the week before they are played.

They attack the OSU OOC schedule and praise the SEC, yet never realize the SEC teams rarely, if ever, travel outside of their own area. Even most of their bowl games are in their area. Oh wait, the SEC is allowed to schedule weak OOC because the conference itself if so good. LOL. That is the crap some of these people say and believe.

Love the bashing of the B10 also. One poster in the other thread talks about Iowa only winning their bowl game because Missouri gave it to them. If course he doens't mention that fact that much of Iowa's team didn't play.

They always forget that part...LOL

Every time OSU beats a big time team, they were lucky or the team sucked or is over rated, etc.

One guy listed Illinois as hapless when OSU beat them. You know, the same Illinois team that just won there bowl game. I realize Illi is nothing great, but hapless? The same guy said when that when OSU beat Oregon that Oregon was over rated and in the Rose Bowl last year because of Kirk Herbstreit.

Bring up OSU being 5-3 in BCS games and those games don't count, because only the games during the season count. A bowl game means little, that is of course unless OSU loses, then they are exposed. LOL. Yep, it's been said.

You do realize that if OSU finds a way to beat Arkansas that they already have their excuses lined up as to why it happened. I guarandamntee it.

There is no way to have a rational discussion with some of these people.

There are people in this thread that actually think that OSU and UA compete for football recruits.

It's like they think UA is the second choice of all these recruits. You know, they have offers from OSU, Florida, Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, but if OSU wasn't here they would pick UA. Some really believe that.

One listed Erick Howard. They know nothing of the true story there, but what they want to believe.

Most of our fans here are great. But a few have such disdain and yes..jealousy, that it is impossible to have a rational discussion. I used to try, but gave up a long time ago.

[meatwad]

I just don't see how people can root for a school they have no connection to. .....

I never attended UA. Does that mean I have to stop rooting for the Zips?

+1. By everyone's logic here Dave and I cannot be Zips fans.

[Zipmeister]

I just don't see how people can root for a school they have no connection to. .....

I never attended UA. Does that mean I have to stop rooting for the Zips?

+1. By everyone's logic here Dave and I cannot be Zips fans.

You are correct wad; get out. Oh, by the way, do you think Illinois is hapless or hapful?

[you am i]

Why should anyone feel that it is up to him to decide who should be "allowed" to root for whatever team they want to? That mentality makes absolutely no sense to me.

People root for a particular team for any number of reasons, some of which make more sense than others. Obviously, the most logical reason to be a fan is that you went to the school, but some people are just frontrunners. Some people root for the local team, whether they went there or not. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone who develops a connection with any particular team, Can't fans excepted. They deserve scorn.

I watched a big rivalry game on TV one time with the sound down. The camera kept panning the crowd showing the fans grouped together in their respective team colors, jumping up and down and yelling and hugging when their team did something good. Emotionally crushed when their team was defeated. It was very tribal. Team-fan connections are deep and emotional, and not necessarily rational.

I am an Akron fan first and foremost. But I confess that I root for OSU was well. That's probably based on the many happy hours I spent as a boy watching OSU on TV with my dad in suburban Cleveland. My dad was a big OSU fan. He never went there. He would root for all Ohio teams in all sports, except the Reds and Bengals.

To each his own.

[Zipmeister]

Why should anyone feel that it is up to him to decide who should be "allowed" to root for whatever team they want to? That mentality makes absolutely no sense to me.

People root for a particular team for any number of reasons, some of which make more sense than others. Obviously, the most logical reason to be a fan is that you went to the school, but some people are just frontrunners. Some people root for the local team, whether they went there or not. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone who develops a connection with any particular team, Can't fans excepted. They deserve scorn.

I watched a big rivalry game on TV one time with the sound down. The camera kept panning the crowd showing the fans grouped together in their respective team colors, jumping up and down and yelling and hugging when their team did something good. Emotionally crushed when their team was defeated. It was very tribal. Team-fan connections are deep and emotional, and not necessarily rational.

I am an Akron fan first and foremost. But I confess that I root for OSU was well. That's probably based on the many happy hours I spent as a boy watching OSU on TV with my dad in suburban Cleveland. My dad was a big OSU fan. He never went there. He would root for all Ohio teams in all sports, except the Reds and Bengals.

To each his own.

As a youngster I liked when OSU won a football game because I was from Ohio, but it was also always entertaining to watch who Woody Hayes would punch when OSU lost a game.

[ZachTheZip]

Why so much love for the Buckeyes?

Is it because they are from Ohio? So is Akron, so is Toledo, so is Miami, so are plenty of other D-I schools, but it is OSU who people cheer for when they meet on the field. Why doesn't Ohio U have the same following when they are also an "Ohio" school and claim the state's name as the name of their university? Is it because OSU is in that terribly generic midwestern city we call our capitol while other schools are less centralized? Why should location have anything to do with it?

Why is Cleveland, specifically, so obsessed with this particular BCS school when there is a geographically closer one to them in Pitt and tons of closer D-I schools who aren't fortunate enough to belong to the old-boys network?

Is it because people "grew up watching and cheering for them"? I grew up believing in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. But I grew out of it because I realized that they made no sense.

[you am i]

Why so much love for the Buckeyes?

Is it because they are from Ohio? So is Akron, so is Toledo, so is Miami, so are plenty of other D-I schools, but it is OSU who people cheer for when they meet on the field. Why doesn't Ohio U have the same following when they are also an "Ohio" school and claim the state's name as the name of their university? Is it because OSU is in that terribly generic midwestern city we call our capitol while other schools are less centralized? Why should location have anything to do with it?

Why is Cleveland, specifically, so obsessed with this particular BCS school when there is a geographically closer one to them in Pitt and tons of closer D-I schools who aren't fortunate enough to belong to the old-boys network?

Is it because people "grew up watching and cheering for them"? I grew up believing in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. But I grew out of it because I realized that they made no sense.

Good for you. To each his own.

[meatwad]

I just don't see how people can root for a school they have no connection to. .....

I never attended UA. Does that mean I have to stop rooting for the Zips?

+1. By everyone's logic here Dave and I cannot be Zips fans.

You are correct wad; get out. Oh, by the way, do you think Illinois is hapless or hapful?

Well, consider this my signing off post...

Not sure what Illinois has to do with anything, but I'll go with hapful.

[ksu sucks]

I agree that every universtiy has its strong points..im not trying to put anyone down. I just think OSU has probably the best overall university

Fair enough.

[ZachTheZip]

Here's a joke we can all appreciate:

What's the difference between Terrel Pryor and Tate Forcier? One couldn't afford a tattoo and the other couldn't spell it.

[Dave in Green]

Anyone have an ESPN Insider account to check out the latest hot OSU head coaching change rumor?

Urban Meyer could succeed Jim Tressel

[ZachTheZip]

Anyone have an ESPN Insider account to check out the latest hot OSU head coaching change rumor?

Urban Meyer could succeed Jim Tressel

That would be hilarious, but it will NEVER happen.

I wouldn't mind Akron hiring Tressel when he eventually leaves OSU, though. Even if he struggles against the top-10 teams, no MAC coach has ever beaten him and his name alone would allow us to keep all the top local recruits that currently ignore us.

[bUAkronG]

I just don't see how people can root for a school they have no connection to. I'd say 99% of Suckeyes fans have never attended a class there and just root for them because they are good. What does that make them? a bandwagon fan. Most are annoying and loud mouths, who wear their stupid red and grey crap around campus laughing at people who root for Akron. Oh well we brought home a National Championship this year, and OSwho has not.

Yep, even though I watched Ohio state for 17 years, the second I stepped foot on UA's campus I had to stop rooting for OSU completely. This sentiment is simply asinine. I root for all Akron sports first and foremost yet I also root for the Buckeyes. Only time I don't is when the Zips play OSU; I root for the Zips.

But I based it on which schools I wanted to attend when I got older. Now being a part of UA, I am a Zips fan. That's where I got my education and the place I can call "my school."

Guess what. I wanted to attend Ohio State for years until I got lazy my senior year and didn't feel like writing an entrance essay for them to accept my application. Hell, my bedroom is Ohio State colors but has more Zips paraphernalia in it than OSU gear.

If anything people should be upset with the national attention the Buckeyes get. It is easier to be an OSU fan because of the fact that their games are on tv a lot. Does that mean I shouldn't watch them? I would love to see the Zips be on the same level of media attention and I will support them regardless of whether or not they ever achieve that attention or not.

I guess the bottom line is that irrational people will be irrational regardless. It is just a shame that even though we are all adults here we can't have rational, civil conversations. To be honest, it makes the Zips look worse that we can't be accepting of fellow Zips fans that cheer for other teams.

[Zipmeister]

It is pointless to criticize tOSU or the greatest football conference in college. All you have to do to realize how powerful the BIG TEN is is to look at the game results for Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State and Wisconsin on this first day of 2011. Their combined record was.........ah.............never mind.

[GP1]

It is pointless to criticize tOSU or the greatest football conference in college. All you have to do to realize how powerful the BIG TEN is is to look at the game results for Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State and Wisconsin on this first day of 2011. Their combined record was.........ah.............never mind.

Don't forget Northwestern....

Normally, I don't like to put much into wins or loses in bowl games, but the destruction of the Big Ten today was pretty complete. Michigan got killed and is a joke. MSU must not have known there was a game today. PSU lost to a very average Florida team (I was really pulling for Paterno to get a win in this game). Wisconsin lost to a non-BCS team that runs a modern offense and not one from 20 years ago. Northwestern actually played well and their game was fun to watch, but they don't have enough good players. Put some better players on Northwestern, with that offense, and they win a lot of games.

The darling of the Big Ten plays in a few days. We'll see if they put the cherry on top of this crap cake the Big Ten served up today.

[UAZipster0305]

"Leaders" and "Legends" LOL. What a joke. 0-5.

[meatwad]

Anyone have an ESPN Insider account to check out the latest hot OSU head coaching change rumor?

Urban Meyer could succeed Jim Tressel

From @CoryMcKnight: Where will Urban Meyer's next coaching job be?

My hunch is he might be the guy whenever Jim Tressel decides to step down at Ohio State, given that he is an Ohio guy and it is a very big job. To me, OSU seems a little more viable than some other potential openings. I couldn't see him coming back in a year or two to take over at Georgia, even though the Bulldogs new AD came from UF. I wouldn't think taking a job at one of UF's archrivals would feel right to him.

I doubt Notre Dame would be an option, either, but part of my thought process on that is because I suspect Brian Kelly will be entrenched there for quite a while.

Would Meyer potentially trade off with Mack Brown after a year or two in the broadcast booth? I think it'd be tempting, given all that UT has to offer. But that job, as much as any, with the possible exception of Notre Dame, requires you to do more external work than probably any other. Given Meyer's final two seasons at UF, I'd doubt he'd want to undertake that.

[zipseuph]

I agree that people on here can go to far from time to time. I'd root for Akron over OSU any day of the week, I hate it when people wear OSU gear on campus/to games, I hate it when I can't go to a bar and I can't find a single place that isn't showing the Akron game, but I think too much is made of it on this bored.

Here's my nominee for sentence of the year. I never realized zipeuph was an English major.

lol I was half asleep when I typed that. at least thats the excuse I'm gonna use

[Buckzip]

Anyone have an ESPN Insider account to check out the latest hot OSU head coaching change rumor?

Urban Meyer could succeed Jim Tressel

From @CoryMcKnight: Where will Urban Meyer's next coaching job be?

My hunch is he might be the guy whenever Jim Tressel decides to step down at Ohio State, given that he is an Ohio guy and it is a very big job. To me, OSU seems a little more viable than some other potential openings. I couldn't see him coming back in a year or two to take over at Georgia, even though the Bulldogs new AD came from UF. I wouldn't think taking a job at one of UF's archrivals would feel right to him.

I doubt Notre Dame would be an option, either, but part of my thought process on that is because I suspect Brian Kelly will be entrenched there for quite a while.

Would Meyer potentially trade off with Mack Brown after a year or two in the broadcast booth? I think it'd be tempting, given all that UT has to offer. But that job, as much as any, with the possible exception of Notre Dame, requires you to do more external work than probably any other. Given Meyer's final two seasons at UF, I'd doubt he'd want to undertake that.

Meyer's dream job is OSU. Tressel isn't retiring for another 10-15 years.

By that time there will be some other hot shot up and coming coach.

I really like Patterson at TCU. Imagine what that guy could do if he was getting the recruits other than the scraps of what Texas leaves.

[GP1]

Meyer's dream job is OSU.

I always heard Meyer's dream job was Notre Dame.

Actually, I think Meyer just left his dream job in Florida. He isn't going to win two national championships at tOSU or ND.

[Buckzip]

Meyer's dream job is OSU.

I always heard Meyer's dream job was Notre Dame.

Actually, I think Meyer just left his dream job in Florida. He isn't going to win two national championships at tOSU or ND.

No. His dream job is OSU. It has been stated before. He had an out for ND and OSU, but OSU is his dream job.

I agree that he will probably not win a NC at either though.

He won't wait until Tressel leaves and Kelly will probably do well at ND.

Meyer fits in better in the SEC. He will probably take another job down there when he is ready to coach again or maybe at USC when the Lane Kiffen experience ends badly.

[UA Fan]

Anyone have an ESPN Insider account to check out the latest hot OSU head coaching change rumor?

Urban Meyer could succeed Jim Tressel

From @CoryMcKnight: Where will Urban Meyer's next coaching job be?

My hunch is he might be the guy whenever Jim Tressel decides to step down at Ohio State, given that he is an Ohio guy and it is a very big job. To me, OSU seems a little more viable than some other potential openings. I couldn't see him coming back in a year or two to take over at Georgia, even though the Bulldogs new AD came from UF. I wouldn't think taking a job at one of UF's archrivals would feel right to him.

I doubt Notre Dame would be an option, either, but part of my thought process on that is because I suspect Brian Kelly will be entrenched there for quite a while.

Would Meyer potentially trade off with Mack Brown after a year or two in the broadcast booth? I think it'd be tempting, given all that UT has to offer. But that job, as much as any, with the possible exception of Notre Dame, requires you to do more external work than probably any other. Given Meyer's final two seasons at UF, I'd doubt he'd want to undertake that.

Meyer's dream job is OSU. Tressel isn't retiring for another 10-15 years.

By that time there will be some other hot shot up and coming coach.

I really like Patterson at TCU. Imagine what that guy could do if he was getting the recruits other than the scraps of what Texas leaves.

Is there somewhere I can bet a lot of money against Tressel coaching another 10 years at Tosu?

[Dave in Green]

Meatwad, thanks for sharing. Nothing really new in that story, I guess. Since Meyer is currently 46, I doubt he wants to wait 10-15 years for Tressel to retire. The other rumor about Tressel being out soon died real fast, and it would take that rumor coming true to start the second rumor into motion.

[Buckzip]

Meatwad, thanks for sharing. Nothing really new in that story, I guess. Since Meyer is currently 46, I doubt he wants to wait 10-15 years for Tressel to retire. The other rumor about Tressel being out soon died real fast, and it would take that rumor coming true to start the second rumor into motion.

That rumor was started on a Chicago blog and like so much in todays world it became a story.