Akron September opponent's coach in hot water?

[GP1]

It has long been known that the tOSU men's basketball program is as squeaky clean as the floor of a chicken coop.

This is going to be the other shoe and lots of people in Columbus know it. The corruption at tosu goes far beyond the football program it is only getting started. The car dealership is going to be much bigger than Tatgate.

[GP1]

2) They've probably done enough to warrant the death penalty, but they won't get the SMU treatment because they are a far better money generator.

My prediction is the ncaa will never hand out the death penalty again after what happened to smu after they received it.

[Lee Adams]

Terry Pluto gets opinion from his favorite loveable loser.

How did Pluto not get laughed out of the editors room when he handed in this story?

Pluto writes the same stories year after year depending on which sports season it is. He just changes some of the names.

Hard to believe that after the dust settles that anybody who has been associated with the football program will be around even if they didn't do anything wrong. OSU is going to have to wipe out any appearance that anyone on the staff when all this was going on will have anything to do with the program going forward.

[Doug Snyder]

2) They've probably done enough to warrant the death penalty, but they won't get the SMU treatment because they are a far better money generator.

My prediction is the ncaa will never hand out the death penalty again after what happened to smu after they received it.

Wow.. great prediction. That would be impressive had it been BEFORE the NCAA said it would never again hand out a death penalty.

[GP1]

2) They've probably done enough to warrant the death penalty, but they won't get the SMU treatment because they are a far better money generator.

My prediction is the ncaa will never hand out the death penalty again after what happened to smu after they received it.

Wow.. great prediction. That would be impressive had it been BEFORE the NCAA said it would never again hand out a death penalty.

We're both wrong.

Two schools received the death penalty since smu in lower divisions. Actually Doug, I was only wrong once. You were wrong twice. Congrats, you win.

[K92]

I don't know how many of you listen to the college sports station on Sirius/XM, but I do. Everyday. (At least while driving) Bill King followed by Chris Childers, Jack Arute and Mike Leach come on at noon and lastly Paul Finebaum at 3. The broadcast day runs the gamut from very dry to Springer-esque.

Anyway, Danny Sheridan was on Finebaum this afternoon. Unfortunately, I was unable to catch all the interview, but I heard Danny say in his deadpan manner that we have only seen the tip of the iceberg with this scandal and we may see some bombshells in the next 24 hours. Anybody hear the whole interview? Danny has a pretty good track record with his info.

Just curious if anyone else was tuned in.

[Z.I.P.]

2) They've probably done enough to warrant the death penalty, but they won't get the SMU treatment because they are a far better money generator.

My prediction is the ncaa will never hand out the death penalty again after what happened to smu after they received it.

Wow.. great prediction. That would be impressive had it been BEFORE the NCAA said it would never again hand out a death penalty.

We're both wrong.

Two schools received the death penalty since smu in lower divisions. Actually Doug, I was only wrong once. You were wrong twice. Congrats, you win.

I loved the Wiki article. This statement about the Morehouse soccer team in particular: The NCAA came down particularly hard on Morehouse due to a lack of institutional control; for a time the athletic department didn't know the soccer program even existed. At least the Akron Athletic Department knows they have a football team, even if no one else cares.

[Dave in Green]

I don't know how many of you listen to the college sports station on Sirius/XM, but I do. Everyday. (At least while driving) Bill King followed by Chris Childers, Jack Arute and Mike Leach come on at noon and lastly Paul Finebaum at 3. The broadcast day runs the gamut from very dry to Springer-esque.

Anyway, Danny Sheridan was on Finebaum this afternoon. Unfortunately, I was unable to catch all the interview, but I heard Danny say in his deadpan manner that we have only seen the tip of the iceberg with this scandal and we may see some bombshells in the next 24 hours. Anybody hear the whole interview? Danny has a pretty good track record with his info.

Just curious if anyone else was tuned in.

How's this for a bombshell on Pryor appearing within the last few hours: He's alleged to have been raking in as much as $40k per year over the last couple of years by selling autographed memorabilia. No proof yet, so it's just an allegation. But the investigative reporters are working overtime on tOSU, so who knows what else may come out and what may be proven true?

Terrelle Pryor signings netted thousands

[Dave in Green]

Another bombshell. Apparently there is proof that Pryor was getting paid lots of money. Hard to believe that he would actually deposit checks in his checking account, thus leaving a paper trail. But that's apparently what has been uncovered. The bad news for tOSU is that their own investigation somehow missed this, which may lead the NCAA to believe that tOSU was not serious about cleaning up their mess, which means that the NCAA will have to do the job for them, and the result could be bigger than a lot of people think.

Why the OSU case is worse than that of USC

[K92]

Another bombshell. Apparently there is proof that Pryor was getting paid lots of money. Hard to believe that he would actually deposit checks in his checking account, thus leaving a paper trail. But that's apparently what has been uncovered. The bad news for tOSU is that their own investigation somehow missed this, which may lead the NCAA to believe that tOSU was not serious about cleaning up their mess, which means that the NCAA will have to do the job for them, and the result could be bigger than a lot of people think.

Why the OSU case is worse than that of USC

Great read. Thanks, Dave. The final line is classc.

[ZachTheZip]

Another bombshell. Apparently there is proof that Pryor was getting paid lots of money. Hard to believe that he would actually deposit checks in his checking account, thus leaving a paper trail. But that's apparently what has been uncovered. The bad news for tOSU is that their own investigation somehow missed this, which may lead the NCAA to believe that tOSU was not serious about cleaning up their mess, which means that the NCAA will have to do the job for them, and the result could be bigger than a lot of people think.

Why the OSU case is worse than that of USC

That article says the $$$ was all from one guy. So that's a tax evasion charge for Pryor and a reason for the government to investigate, who might just forward their findings to the NCAA.

[Doug Snyder]

2) They've probably done enough to warrant the death penalty, but they won't get the SMU treatment because they are a far better money generator.

My prediction is the ncaa will never hand out the death penalty again after what happened to smu after they received it.

Wow.. great prediction. That would be impressive had it been BEFORE the NCAA said it would never again hand out a death penalty.

We're both wrong.

Two schools received the death penalty since smu in lower divisions. Actually Doug, I was only wrong once. You were wrong twice. Congrats, you win.

"The NCAA needs to bring back the death penalty and threaten to use it against any schoolor coach whom puts winning over the rules. It is the only way to start the long process of cleaning up college athletics.Over the NCAA’s 106 years of existence, the death penalty has only been used fivetimes, three of those times against a Division I program. It has not been used against amajor program since SMU football in the late 1980’s.By definition on the NCAA website, “the ‘death penalty’ is a phrase used by media todescribe the most serious NCAA penalties possible. It is not a formal NCAA term. Itapplies only to repeat violators and can include eliminating the involved sport for at least one year, the elimination of athletics aid in that sport for two years and the school relinquishing its Association voting privileges for a four-year period. A school is a repeatviolator if a second major violation occurs within five years of the start date of the penalty from the first case. The cases do not have to be in the same sport.”The death penalty is a serious threat and when used on a program can permanently kill the sport at the school. The NCAA does not use it lightly and without serious reason. When the SMU football program received the death penalty after numerous violations over a decade span the NCAA vowed to never use it again. They have not enacted itagainst a Division I program. In the 2000’s Division II Morehead State and Division III MacMurray College were given the death penalty despite both having violations for the first time. Former University of Florida President John V. Lombardi said in 2002: "SMU taught the committee that the death penalty is too much like the nuclear bomb. It's like what happened after we dropped the (atom) bomb in World War II. The results were so catastrophic that now we'll do anything to avoid dropping another one.”The NCAA has not placed a Division I program the death penalty partly because of media backlash and the severe damage it costs. However, major programs are given lesser penalties than their Division II and III counterparts because major programs make money for the NCAA. The men’s basketball tournament makes 95% of the NCAA revenues yearly; college football makes nothing for the NCAA as the conference makes all the money. The NCAA will not put a high profile and successful program, such asKentucky, on violations because of the money the team makes for the NCAA.This is clearly wrong. If the NCAA is serious about cleaning up college athletics, it needs to resurrect the death penalty and create fear. Without fear, cheating in college athletics will continue as the NCAA allows it and does not always punish those who are clearly guilty. The NCAA had replaced the electric chair with a time out chair. "

I never claimed to be anything better than average...if that. Certainly not "great". So I will take your word for it that you are superior and obviously the "Great One" as you say.

[Dr Z]

Courtesy of SI's Extra Mustard. Takes some time to load, it's 135 cells. I give it a "C".

[BirdZip]

I like the writing above the doorway (above the doorman's head on the close-up).

[GP1]

So that's a tax evasion charge for Pryor and a reason for the government to investigate

This is the reason why student athletes should be able to hold a job while in school. Allowinig it to happens brings all of the money into the open and requiring laws to be followed. As it stands now, schools are taking 18-23 year old people and turning them into criminals before most ever get into the working world. The ncaa is run by despicable people and even more despicable people (the universities themselves) pay their salaries.

[GP1]

The final line is classc.

I got a good laugh out of that as well. Last January, one would have thought tosu won the national championship when they beat a fifth place, middling SEC program in a meaningless bowl game.

[skip-zip]

The final line is classc.

I got a good laugh out of that as well. Last January, one would have thought tosu won the national championship when they beat a fifth place, middling SEC program in a meaningless bowl game.

I keep making this point all the time. When you are the fan of a program that has won one national championship in the last 43 years, I guess you have nothing left but to claim greatness by bragging about things like beating Michigan and winning most of your games with a 60th ranked schedule.

I read an article before the Sugar Bowl last year that talked about how, after 9 straight losses to the SEC, OSWho fans would be pounding their chests and claiming their greatness if they beat Arkansas. And as predicted, that's exactly what we saw.

[ZachTheZip]

So that's a tax evasion charge for Pryor and a reason for the government to investigate

This is the reason why student athletes should be able to hold a job while in school. Allowinig it to happens brings all of the money into the open and requiring laws to be followed. As it stands now, schools are taking 18-23 year old people and turning them into criminals before most ever get into the working world. The ncaa is run by despicable people and even more despicable people (the universities themselves) pay their salaries.

They are allowed to hold a job. What makes you think they can't?

[GP1]

So that's a tax evasion charge for Pryor and a reason for the government to investigate

This is the reason why student athletes should be able to hold a job while in school. Allowinig it to happens brings all of the money into the open and requiring laws to be followed. As it stands now, schools are taking 18-23 year old people and turning them into criminals before most ever get into the working world. The ncaa is run by despicable people and even more despicable people (the universities themselves) pay their salaries.

They are allowed to hold a job. What makes you think they can't?

It is against NCAA rules for a player to hold a job during the spring and fall semesters. They should be allowed to hold a job year around. They should be allowed to legally make money.

[ZachTheZip]

So that's a tax evasion charge for Pryor and a reason for the government to investigate

This is the reason why student athletes should be able to hold a job while in school. Allowinig it to happens brings all of the money into the open and requiring laws to be followed. As it stands now, schools are taking 18-23 year old people and turning them into criminals before most ever get into the working world. The ncaa is run by despicable people and even more despicable people (the universities themselves) pay their salaries.

They are allowed to hold a job. What makes you think they can't?

It is against NCAA rules for a player to hold a job during the spring and fall semesters. They should be allowed to hold a job year around. They should be allowed to legally make money.

So they legally make money during the summer. Holding a job year-round interferes with being an athlete. What kind of hours do you think they could work that would accommodate practice in the morning, class in the day, and games in the evenings? Are you advocating that players be allowed to simply get paid for not showing up? Because that's not a job. It's getting money because of who they are.

It's not like they need to pay for food, books, school supplies, transportation, or anything like that. A couple thousand from a summer job plus the stipend they receive from the university should be enough for the year. Yes, they do get a stipend. If that's not enough, there's also a discretionary spending fund set up by the NCAA that gives them even more spending money, so long as it's for necessities.

At OSU, they did what they did not because they were struggling to make ends meet, but because they wanted to get more tattoos and drive new cars. If they really were in financial trouble I don't think you would see them doing what they did.

[Dave in Green]

I think there's a good rationale for why the college football player work rule was instituted, and so I support the rule.

But I'm pretty open-minded on most issues, and am always willing to change my mind if I see a good, solid case against something I support.

If presented with a good case made for eliminating the rule, I'd be open to supporting that. But the case would have to be carefully thought out with all aspects of the situation taken into consideration.

I've yet to see that case made in a way that would cause me to change my mind from believing that eliminating the rule has the potential to cause more problems than it resolves.

[RACER]

gp is 100% right about how the ncaa is full of double talk.they make rules the kid cannot make any money at all.yet the head coaches,and ncaa president all are making millons of dollars of these kids.

it's ok for a coach to leave for a high paying job,or an a.d. to make at least six figure salaries.

as for terrell pryer situaton good for him.take the money,and run.what twenty old kid would not take 40k.99% of the people would take the cash.you are only doing what the a.d.'s, coaches,and ncaa

president are doing.they are taking as much money as they can off of youg kids.the ncaa cannnot do anything to pryer to pryer now.i just laugh when people are saying punish pryer. he did not brake any federal laws.there is nothing the ncaa can do him now.he is gone with 40k in his pocket,and i would done the same thing.now he has a chance to make more off endorsements now. he should

be happy to get his college paid for? the osu football team makes enough money to pay for

all the other sports at o.s.u.if anything he is getting ripped off.if am not saying all the coaches

are bad.but most leave the second they get a chance to make more money.they could care less

about the kids they are leaving behind.

[GP1]

What kind of hours do you think they could work that would accommodate practice in the morning, class in the day, and games in the evenings?

Here is an example. Jock sniffing car dealer in Columbus pays a player $5,000 to sign autographs for four hours on one Saturday, or however often he wants to sign. Player would have to work 500 hours at $10/hr to make that kind of money. They would have jobs unlike most students, but it is a free country after all.

[ZachTheZip]

What kind of hours do you think they could work that would accommodate practice in the morning, class in the day, and games in the evenings?

Here is an example. Jock sniffing car dealer in Columbus pays a player $5,000 to sign autographs for four hours on one Saturday, or however often he wants to sign. Player would have to work 500 hours at $10/hr to make that kind of money. They would have jobs unlike most students, but it is a free country after all.

If they want to make $5000, why shouldn't they have to work 500 hours like the rest of the students that go to college? If kids want to get paid for being athletes, then they should work their way on to a professional team's roster. They can join the UFL or Arena League or something. Just like how basketball players who don't want an education are can play in Europe.

[Dr Z]

why shouldn't they have to work 500 hours like the rest of the students that go to college?

You think TP is like the rest of the students that go to college?