Hilltopper Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 The PD conducted a study of the working conditions and employee satisfaction at NE Ohio companies. Lo and behold, GP1's favorite whipping boy came in at #6 in the large company category. LARGE (500-plus local employees) I know this contradicts his theory that Infocision is some kind of modern day sweatshop, full of modern day slaves. It appears that those who actually work there see things a little differently. Northeast Ohio's Top Workplaces At InfoCision Management Corp. in Akron, which says happy workers are better workers, the company said: "We give supervisors the freedom to do what makes their employees happy: quarterly breakfasts, birthday lunches or fun, team-building activities outside the office. "Many incentives are on company time and paid for by the company," including visits by Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, Halloween trick-or-treat and Bring Your Child to Work Day. InfoCision Management Corp. People are treated with respect, and the company is good at putting people in positions to maximize their strengths. In the future, please stop trying to bite the hand that feeds us(UA Athletics). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I know this contradicts his theory that Infocision is some kind of modern day sweatshop, full of modern day slaves. It appears that those who actually work there see things a little differently. I never once said it was a modern day sweatshop. What I have always said is InfoCision is a company built off of scaring little old ladies into giving $25 at a time. The only reason I say that is because that's exactly what they did. Before they had respectable clients like Newt Gingrich and formerly Alan Keyes , they worked for any Evangelical conman from the 1980s who would allow them to fundraise for their wacky church or cause or whatever reason they were using to pocket money in the name of God. InfoCision was right in the middle of all of it. Later, many of those same Evangelical conmen became mainstays in the Republican Party (Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed, etc.) and they were able to use the same methods to raise money for the Republican Party. Gary Taylor is a brillianat businessman. He would bill these non-profits on the basis of a "completed call". He would also offer a "break even guarantee" which meant that the non-profit stood no risk of losing money on the program. However, the non-profit did not make a dime until the program broke even. InfoCision could repeatedly call clients for a period of time until the program did break even. Google "InfoCision break even guarantee" and you can see some of the law cases, it is all public record. If you look hard enough (ABJ reporters), you can find actual signed proposals from InfoCision to their clients in the internet. Basically, InfoCision raised money for itself in the name of these clients. It was a fantastic marketing concept for InfoCision. They were in control of everything from fulfillment letters, the PO Boxes they went to, the sweeping of those boxes and then sending the money to a local Akron bank, to the bank account the money went into. It was a great deal for the non-profits as well. InfoCision would develop lists for them that paid (oops) off down the road. All of the PO Boxes, accounts, etc. were agreed upon by the non-profit. InfoCision provided a great turn key service for them. While it is all disgusting on many levels, it was never illegal. The completed call billing was the real genius. InfoCision used this billing method to back the Brinks truck up to their doors and unload cash. Most companies were biling around $32 per hour, per sales agent in the early 1990s. InfoCision did not bill by the hour because they used a completed call method. What the client never knew was InfoCision knew exactly what they were billing per sales agent hour, but the non profit didn't. They had a goal of billing $60 per sales agent hour. They were operating at almost double the hourly billing rate of the rest of the industry. Their employees would fly around in private jets to go see these non-profits, but they were strictly informed never to tell the clients how they traveled. InfoCision made their money the way they made it. People have the right to cast their own moral judgements upon it. If anyone believes they made their money in an honorable way, then they are entitled to that opinion. On some level, they are correct. On other levels....well...ask that little old lady who is concerned about where she will end up after she dies. Think of that the next time you are watching a game in the Big Dialer in lieu of the Rubber Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I know very little about InfoCision, other than the fact that I drive by their new facility in Green every day and have watched it transformed from a hardware store/building center into what looks like an upscale resort. They've just completed a beautifully landscaped veranda area alongside the building where the workers can come outside and sit at fancy tables with patio umbellas and enjoy a cold drink and bite of food, or just a conversation with other employees. So, yeah, it looks like a great place to work, and there appears to be no shortage of money. I'm not fond of the concept of scaring little old ladies into coughing up money, if, in fact, that's what they do to make the big bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 So, yeah, it looks like a great place to work, and there appears to be no shortage of money. As long as you aren't one of the people making the calls, it is a great place to work. The real sad part is, 30 years ago people would have laughed at the idea of a telemarketing company being a top employer in NE Ohio. It's really a statement of what has happened to NE Ohio and less of a statement about InfoCision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 So, yeah, it looks like a great place to work, and there appears to be no shortage of money. As long as you aren't one of the people making the calls, it is a great place to work. The real sad part is, 30 years ago people would have laughed at the idea of a telemarketing company being a top employer in NE Ohio. It's really a statement of what has happened to NE Ohio and less of a statement about InfoCision. + (and ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 So, yeah, it looks like a great place to work, and there appears to be no shortage of money. As long as you aren't one of the people making the calls, it is a great place to work. The real sad part is, 30 years ago people would have laughed at the idea of a telemarketing company being a top employer in NE Ohio. It's really a statement of what has happened to NE Ohio and less of a statement about InfoCision. I worked at Republic Steel in Massillon during the summers while in college. My job was in the accounting area and I calculated bonuses for "production" workers (and I am using that term in protest). Guys were making 100% bonuses every week for the amount of product coming off their machine. Trouble was...none of it was usable...all scrap. They ran the machines so fast that the small hot steel would run off the tracks. Before they could shut it down, it would pile up on the floor as "spaghetti". A good friend and fellow Zip also worked with me but in the plant. He had another full time b during the day and slept in the supervisors office at night while getting paid at Republic. The saying amongst Republic workers was "if you work at Republic...it is your own fault". Machines would be idle for days because workers on a machine could not make minor fixes and had to wait on the union maintenance department. I could site many other cases. Now...who was at fault?? The union for forcing those work rules or management for agreeing?? Who knows. But one thing for certain....where once thousand or so acres of manufacturing plant is now an empty grass field. THAT is your statement about NE Ohio. People are gravitating to more business friendly states like North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Florida. I have a business in Hayward California. Do you know it is against the law to smoke ANYWHERE in Hayward except in your own private residence?? Not in your back yard...not in your driveway...not in your car. In San Francisco you can't but soda pop in vending machines or buy cigarettes at Walgreens. They want to eliminate "Happy Meals" at McDonalds. Soon you will not be able to buy potato chips...or pay a hefty penalty tax. So...I am leaving California. I invested over 150K in Bali and will invest 150K more over the next 12 months. Do you think I am the only one taking their investments out of the country?? And I love the USofA. Joined the Navy after college. I have traveled to more than 40+ states. But the business here climate sucks. So you say they raised money for Republicans?? I say they did not do a good enough job!! And I am a Blue Dog Democrat :-( As long as it is a free society people will give money to scoundrels over the phone or online. Look how much money Obama raised during his campaign (online). Record amounts from little old ladies and many who could not afford it. NE Ohio?? A workforce that is productive and readily available. But....not business friendly. Few consider Ohio for big production investments. Be glad for those that stay or develop there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 So, yeah, it looks like a great place to work, and there appears to be no shortage of money. As long as you aren't one of the people making the calls, it is a great place to work. The real sad part is, 30 years ago people would have laughed at the idea of a telemarketing company being a top employer in NE Ohio. It's really a statement of what has happened to NE Ohio and less of a statement about InfoCision. I worked at Republic Steel in Massillon during the summers while in college. My job was in the accounting area and I calculated bonuses for "production" workers (and I am using that term in protest). Guys were making 100% bonuses every week for the amount of product coming off their machine. Trouble was...none of it was usable...all scrap. They ran the machines so fast that the small hot steel would run off the tracks. Before they could shut it down, it would pile up on the floor as "spaghetti". A good friend and fellow Zip also worked with me but in the plant. He had another full time b during the day and slept in the supervisors office at night while getting paid at Republic. The saying amongst Republic workers was "if you work at Republic...it is your own fault". Machines would be idle for days because workers on a machine could not make minor fixes and had to wait on the union maintenance department. I could site many other cases. Now...who was at fault?? The union for forcing those work rules or management for agreeing?? Who knows. But one thing for certain....where once thousand or so acres of manufacturing plant is now an empty grass field. THAT is your statement about NE Ohio. People are gravitating to more business friendly states like North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Florida. I have a business in Hayward California. Do you know it is against the law to smoke ANYWHERE in Hayward except in your own private residence?? Not in your back yard...not in your driveway...not in your car. In San Francisco you can't but soda pop in vending machines or buy cigarettes at Walgreens. They want to eliminate "Happy Meals" at McDonalds. Soon you will not be able to buy potato chips...or pay a hefty penalty tax. So...I am leaving California. I invested over 150K in Bali and will invest 150K more over the next 12 months. Do you think I am the only one taking their investments out of the country?? And I love the USofA. Joined the Navy after college. I have traveled to more than 40+ states. But the business here climate sucks. So you say they raised money for Republicans?? I say they did not do a good enough job!! And I am a Blue Dog Democrat :-( As long as it is a free society people will give money to scoundrels over the phone or online. Look how much money Obama raised during his campaign (online). Record amounts from little old ladies and many who could not afford it. NE Ohio?? A workforce that is productive and readily available. But....not business friendly. Few consider Ohio for big production investments. Be glad for those that stay or develop there. What does any of this have to do with InfoCision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 So, yeah, it looks like a great place to work, and there appears to be no shortage of money. As long as you aren't one of the people making the calls, it is a great place to work. The real sad part is, 30 years ago people would have laughed at the idea of a telemarketing company being a top employer in NE Ohio. It's really a statement of what has happened to NE Ohio and less of a statement about InfoCision. I worked at Republic Steel in Massillon during the summers while in college. My job was in the accounting area and I calculated bonuses for "production" workers (and I am using that term in protest). Guys were making 100% bonuses every week for the amount of product coming off their machine. Trouble was...none of it was usable...all scrap. They ran the machines so fast that the small hot steel would run off the tracks. Before they could shut it down, it would pile up on the floor as "spaghetti". A good friend and fellow Zip also worked with me but in the plant. He had another full time b during the day and slept in the supervisors office at night while getting paid at Republic. The saying amongst Republic workers was "if you work at Republic...it is your own fault". Machines would be idle for days because workers on a machine could not make minor fixes and had to wait on the union maintenance department. I could site many other cases. Now...who was at fault?? The union for forcing those work rules or management for agreeing?? Who knows. But one thing for certain....where once thousand or so acres of manufacturing plant is now an empty grass field. THAT is your statement about NE Ohio. People are gravitating to more business friendly states like North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Florida. I have a business in Hayward California. Do you know it is against the law to smoke ANYWHERE in Hayward except in your own private residence?? Not in your back yard...not in your driveway...not in your car. In San Francisco you can't but soda pop in vending machines or buy cigarettes at Walgreens. They want to eliminate "Happy Meals" at McDonalds. Soon you will not be able to buy potato chips...or pay a hefty penalty tax. So...I am leaving California. I invested over 150K in Bali and will invest 150K more over the next 12 months. Do you think I am the only one taking their investments out of the country?? And I love the USofA. Joined the Navy after college. I have traveled to more than 40+ states. But the business here climate sucks. So you say they raised money for Republicans?? I say they did not do a good enough job!! And I am a Blue Dog Democrat :-( As long as it is a free society people will give money to scoundrels over the phone or online. Look how much money Obama raised during his campaign (online). Record amounts from little old ladies and many who could not afford it. NE Ohio?? A workforce that is productive and readily available. But....not business friendly. Few consider Ohio for big production investments. Be glad for those that stay or develop there. What does any of this have to do with InfoCision? You wrote: "The real sad part is, 30 years ago people would have laughed at the idea of a telemarketing company being a top employer in NE Ohio. It's really a statement of what has happened to NE Ohio" Understand?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 So, yeah, it looks like a great place to work, and there appears to be no shortage of money. As long as you aren't one of the people making the calls, it is a great place to work. The real sad part is, 30 years ago people would have laughed at the idea of a telemarketing company being a top employer in NE Ohio. It's really a statement of what has happened to NE Ohio and less of a statement about InfoCision. I worked at Republic Steel in Massillon during the summers while in college. My job was in the accounting area and I calculated bonuses for "production" workers (and I am using that term in protest). Guys were making 100% bonuses every week for the amount of product coming off their machine. Trouble was...none of it was usable...all scrap. They ran the machines so fast that the small hot steel would run off the tracks. Before they could shut it down, it would pile up on the floor as "spaghetti". A good friend and fellow Zip also worked with me but in the plant. He had another full time b during the day and slept in the supervisors office at night while getting paid at Republic. The saying amongst Republic workers was "if you work at Republic...it is your own fault". Machines would be idle for days because workers on a machine could not make minor fixes and had to wait on the union maintenance department. I could site many other cases. Now...who was at fault?? The union for forcing those work rules or management for agreeing?? Who knows. But one thing for certain....where once thousand or so acres of manufacturing plant is now an empty grass field. THAT is your statement about NE Ohio. People are gravitating to more business friendly states like North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Florida. I have a business in Hayward California. Do you know it is against the law to smoke ANYWHERE in Hayward except in your own private residence?? Not in your back yard...not in your driveway...not in your car. In San Francisco you can't but soda pop in vending machines or buy cigarettes at Walgreens. They want to eliminate "Happy Meals" at McDonalds. Soon you will not be able to buy potato chips...or pay a hefty penalty tax. So...I am leaving California. I invested over 150K in Bali and will invest 150K more over the next 12 months. Do you think I am the only one taking their investments out of the country?? And I love the USofA. Joined the Navy after college. I have traveled to more than 40+ states. But the business here climate sucks. So you say they raised money for Republicans?? I say they did not do a good enough job!! And I am a Blue Dog Democrat :-( As long as it is a free society people will give money to scoundrels over the phone or online. Look how much money Obama raised during his campaign (online). Record amounts from little old ladies and many who could not afford it. NE Ohio?? A workforce that is productive and readily available. But....not business friendly. Few consider Ohio for big production investments. Be glad for those that stay or develop there. What does any of this have to do with InfoCision? You wrote: "The real sad part is, 30 years ago people would have laughed at the idea of a telemarketing company being a top employer in NE Ohio. It's really a statement of what has happened to NE Ohio" Understand?? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA Fan Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 http://www.ohio.com/business/lin-fisher/in...-green-1.231051 Tele-soliciting is alive and well...bring on InfoCision arena! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 http://www.ohio.com/business/lin-fisher/in...-green-1.231051 Tele-soliciting is alive and well...bring on InfoCision arena! Actually, we are coming into a political season and they do Republican fundraising. You make hay when the sun is up. They also do Evangelical Christian fundraising, which is the same as doing Republican fundraising since the Republican Party is the party of Evangelical Christians, so they will be busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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