Fifth Day of Preseaon Men's Basketball Practice

[Z.I.P.]

Could you please produce the statistical record that states that Diggs lead the Zips in three point

percentage? I have in my possession the 2011 Post Season Media Guide. In it I find that player who averaged

39.2% was Brett McClanahan. In second place was Brett McKnight at 38.7%.

Quincy Diggs .390 (ESPN)

Brett McClanahan .389 (ESPN)

Brett McKnight .385 (ESPN)

Same stats here (CBS Sports)

...and here (Rivals)

The 2011 Post Season Media Guide does NOT include the Notre Dame game.

Quincy took and made one three point shot against the Irish. That elevated his percentage.

McClanahan took a couple of shots against the Irish and his percentage went down.

Brett fired up over two hundred three balls over the course of the season. Diggs shot forty-one

three balls. Huge difference. Diggs by virtue of rarely shooting long shots gains a minor

statistical advantage. He is NOT the best outside shooter on the Zips. I will concede that

percentage wise with a small sample he "appears" to be ... blah, blah, blah.

Truth is; Diggs had a terrible stroke and any one who follows the game would and should

cringe when he took those long shots. My original intent was to give Quincy credit for his

work over the off season for improving his game. Some of you find busting my ass more

to your liking than recognizing this kid for his hard work.

Actually, even though Diggs has a slight statistical advantage it is unlikely that it is a statically significant advantage over either Mc. Fortunately, while his 42 attempts is not a huge number it is large enough to provide a sample that is asymptotically normal and you can easily conduct a significance test for yourself.

Meister I apologize that my Statistics and Combinatorics classwork was lost in the haze of time (well, at least I'm not pulling the "My turtle ate my homework" excuse again!). Could you estimate what the chi square score might be between Quincy and Mac? Based on standard deviations from the mean, or median, your choice.

[Zipmeister]

Could you please produce the statistical record that states that Diggs lead the Zips in three point

percentage? I have in my possession the 2011 Post Season Media Guide. In it I find that player who averaged

39.2% was Brett McClanahan. In second place was Brett McKnight at 38.7%.

Quincy Diggs .390 (ESPN)

Brett McClanahan .389 (ESPN)

Brett McKnight .385 (ESPN)

Same stats here (CBS Sports)

...and here (Rivals)

The 2011 Post Season Media Guide does NOT include the Notre Dame game.

Quincy took and made one three point shot against the Irish. That elevated his percentage.

McClanahan took a couple of shots against the Irish and his percentage went down.

Brett fired up over two hundred three balls over the course of the season. Diggs shot forty-one

three balls. Huge difference. Diggs by virtue of rarely shooting long shots gains a minor

statistical advantage. He is NOT the best outside shooter on the Zips. I will concede that

percentage wise with a small sample he "appears" to be ... blah, blah, blah.

Truth is; Diggs had a terrible stroke and any one who follows the game would and should

cringe when he took those long shots. My original intent was to give Quincy credit for his

work over the off season for improving his game. Some of you find busting my ass more

to your liking than recognizing this kid for his hard work.

Actually, even though Diggs has a slight statistical advantage it is unlikely that it is a statically significant advantage over either Mc. Fortunately, while his 42 attempts is not a huge number it is large enough to provide a sample that is asymptotically normal and you can easily conduct a significance test for yourself.

Meister I apologize that my Statistics and Combinatorics classwork was lost in the haze of time (well, at least I'm not pulling the "My turtle ate my homework" excuse again!). Could you estimate what the chi square score might be between Quincy and Mac? Based on standard deviations from the mean, or median, your choice.

I would, but I have no idea what a chi square "score" is. Click the link for a quick refresher on the chi square test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi-square_test

[Derrt]

Yo, Lets move on zips.

[Zipmeister]

Yo, Lets move on zips.

Move on? We have finally stumbled upon a unique facet of this thread and you urge us to move on! Do you realize how many issues in this forum we could solve with this type of analysis? For example, we could determine if the increase in the Bball teams ranking represents a significant increase from last year. Move on, and leave such topics up to pure conjecture? OK.

[Blue & Gold]

Almost none of you have a clue about Reggie McAdams and what a coup that was.

GoZips, could you elaborate on this statement? Thanks in advance!

[Blue & Gold]

Almost none of you have a clue about Reggie McAdams and what a coup that was.

GoZips, could you elaborate on this statement? Thanks in advance!

Bump

[Valpo Zip]

Almost none of you have a clue about Reggie McAdams and what a coup that was.

GoZips, could you elaborate on this statement? Thanks in advance!

Bump

Dear Blue & Gold,

Apparently, our friend GoZips has nothing to elaborate on. He just writes stuf like that whenever he runs out of arguments. It also makes him feel smarter and more knowledgeable than everyone else.

[Blue & Gold]

Almost none of you have a clue about Reggie McAdams and what a coup that was.

GoZips, could you elaborate on this statement? Thanks in advance!

Bump

Dear Blue & Gold,

Apparently, our friend GoZips has nothing to elaborate on. He just writes stuf like that whenever he runs out of arguments. It also makes him feel smarter and more knowledgeable than everyone else.

And I wasn't trying to be smart. I wasn't at all concerned with the, "Almost none of you have a clue..." part. I'll admit that I don't - that's why I asked the question. I just wanted GoZips to elaborate, "about Reggie McAdams and what a coup that was."

GoZips, tell us what you know about McAdams. I don't know the first thing about the guy. Educate us about our most recent verbal.

[Dave in Green]

I'm also curious about this. I guess you could consider it a coup that a player whose list of college choices included Cincinnati, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Northwestern, Purdue and Wisconsin for football instead chose UA for basketball.

Or maybe GoZips meant that McAdams has way more basketball potential than any of the scouting services have figured out.

I guess we'll have to keep guessing unless GoZips decides to expand on this.

[GoZips]

Almost none of you have a clue about Reggie McAdams and what a coup that was.

GoZips, could you elaborate on this statement? Thanks in advance!

Bump

Dear Blue & Gold,

Apparently, our friend GoZips has nothing to elaborate on. He just writes stuf like that whenever he runs out of arguments. It also makes him feel smarter and more knowledgeable than everyone else.

And I wasn't trying to be smart. I wasn't at all concerned with the, "Almost none of you have a clue..." part. I'll admit that I don't - that's why I asked the question. I just wanted GoZips to elaborate, "about Reggie McAdams and what a coup that was."

GoZips, tell us what you know about McAdams. I don't know the first thing about the guy. Educate us about our most recent verbal.

Blue, since you asked a legitimate question and not a snide remark I will tell you what I know.

A comment was made to me by KD that this kid is one of truly great athletes in the country.

He has a slew of Big Ten and other conferences offers to play QB in football.

Additionally, he has offers from several major-majors to play basketball. He selected Akron because

he took the time to evaluate his options, the schools, the teams, the coaches, etc. and he decided, much

like Zeke Marshall did, that he wants to be part of the Akron Zips.

For KD and the Zips this is huge. This kid is the follow on to Zeke Marshall. That does not mean at

the same position, but at the level of ability. Couple this with Treadwell, Harney, Gilliam, Betancourt, etc.

you get one heck of program for the next several years.

And to Ada Zip, the difference between you and me is that coach Dambrot will actually tell me this stuff.

Some of it he asks me to not publish more than a tid bit.

As for acting superior; ask mes102. When I was invited to tour the new player lounges and weight room

I immediately invited him to join us on the tour. I share the best I can.

[Dave in Green]

Thanks for the confirmation, GoZips. The only odd part is that while the football scouting services are really high on McAdams, he barely registers with the basketball scouting services. Maybe they just assumed he was going to go with football and didn't bother to scout him that closely in basketball. He looks good in the online HS basketball videos.

Nosing around some of the HS basketball forums, a fair number of fans thought that even with all the football interest from big name schools that he might have a better future in basketball. Dayton was where some folks thought he would wind up. If in fact he is a Dayton-level basketball talent, he should be an asset to the Zips.

[Z.I.P.]

Thanks, Mr GoZips for sharing your insights. I hope we are worthy. I'm kind of curious as to why we haven't gotten more info about Betancourt. from what I have read, Carmelo sounds like just as high a pick-up as MacAdams, if not more so. How confident is Keith that he will be able to reel him in if he has a great year at --- wherever he is going and playing this school year? Do we know yet, where that is?

Z.I.P.

[GoZips]

Thanks, Mr GoZips for sharing your insights. I hope we are worthy. I'm kind of curious as to why we haven't gotten more info about Betancourt. from what I have read, Carmelo sounds like just as high a pick-up as MacAdams, if not more so. How confident is Keith that he will be able to reel him in if he has a great year at --- wherever he is going and playing this school year? Do we know yet, where that is?

Z.I.P.

I watched several episodes of cable TV about Montrose Christian. This is the HS that Carmelo attended

his senior year. He was their starting point guard. He definitely can play.

Word I have is that he is friends with Alex Abreu. The probability of Carmelo keeping his commitment

to Akron is high. From what I heard, over 90%.

Akron is poised to literally become a major-major in a mid-major conference. Thus, players want

to come here. (boy, will I get flack from the drones for this statement)

[ZachTheZip]

Thanks, Mr GoZips for sharing your insights. I hope we are worthy. I'm kind of curious as to why we haven't gotten more info about Betancourt. from what I have read, Carmelo sounds like just as high a pick-up as MacAdams, if not more so. How confident is Keith that he will be able to reel him in if he has a great year at --- wherever he is going and playing this school year? Do we know yet, where that is?

Z.I.P.

I watched several episodes of cable TV about Montrose Christian. This is the HS that Carmelo attended

his senior year. He was their starting point guard. He definitely can play.

Word I have is that he is friends with Alex Abreu. The probability of Carmelo keeping his commitment

to Akron is high. From what I heard, over 90%.

Akron is poised to literally become a major-major in a mid-major conference. Thus, players want

to come here. (boy, will I get flack from the drones for this statement)

Given the other schools he was considering before choosing the Zips, I have to think it would take one heck of a scholarship offer to pull Melo away. It's so refreshing when kids weigh all their options and go to the place that makes them happiest instead of continually chasing the biggest offer and collecting offers like trading cards.

As for McAdams, I think a lot of schools backed away from the basketball side because they assumed he wanted to continue to be a QB. They think that if you get an offer from a good BCS school asking for you to become their QB, you couldn't possibly walk away from that.

[Dave in Green]

..... Akron is poised to literally become a major-major in a mid-major conference. Thus, players want

to come here. (boy, will I get flack from the drones for this statement)

Well, skepticism is not necessarily a bad thing in a world full of illusions. But there's also the concept of critical mass. It's certainly possible that an influx of higher caliber players can lead to the continuing attraction of others. It's happened at other schools, and it could be just starting at UA. Zeke may have started the process, and it may be continuing. We'll get a better idea when we see how the season goes for the current group of players, and it will continue to play out in the following years.

So, yeah, you're going to get flack on this because it's still just a theory until it plays out. But there's at least a glimmer there that the process may be underway.

[MDZip]

I signed on earlier today and the list of members was displayed as usual and it always highlights one member name in red. I think that used to be your member name but somehow it seems random now. Anyway, the name that was highlighted when I logged on was an mbardo54, who is a new member. Mike, if this is you, welcome, we will miss your toughness and contributions to the the team. One of my bigger smiles at a Zips game was your dunk in Portland. We also met your mom in line there, she was pretty proud. If this new member is just a big Bardo fan, that's pretty cool too.

[Valpo Zip]

If i remember correctly, new members of the board are listed in red. All their posts (the first 5 or 10) are pending approval. This was started to limit spam and ads.

Anyways, welcome on board Bardo.