Men's Basketball '11 - '12

[Districtballer]

All times TBD. Back to back Ken+ games in March are going to be brutal.

This looks like a pretty challenging schedule to me. Outside of the major programs, there is YSU so the fans will have fun. CSU is a good program and it should be a fun game to attend. Detroit has history as a good program. We have MTSU for a trip down memory lane in Tennessee. We all know what VCU can do. WVU is a good program....too bad it is on a weeknight so not many will get to see the Zips play in a really good college arena. Three road games in a row to start January will provide a good challenge as well."Challenging" is the word I would use to describe this schedule. Some say it isn't any good because of Hiram and JC...everyone plays those types of cupcakes and two games don't make an entire schedule weak.

I wasn't speaking so much to the overall schedule (which looks fine and actually stronger than you've had in a while), as much as I was referring to scheduling non D1's in the regular season. That is not something everyone does. D1 transitional teams do that and weaker D1 squads, of which the Zips are neither. I'm sure Dambrot could have gotten a sub 300+ RPI squad that the Zips could beat on just as easily. It's one thing to want national recognition and respect for your achievements, but IMO you set yourself up to be disrespected when you play squads like that. Your home slate stinks...but there are some very good road games on the slate and an opportunity to build a decent resume should you win them.

[GP1]

I wasn't speaking so much to the overall schedule (which looks fine and actually stronger than you've had in a while), as much as I was referring to scheduling non D1's in the regular season. That is not something everyone does. D1 transitional teams do that and weaker D1 squads, of which the Zips are neither. I'm sure Dambrot could have gotten a sub 300+ RPI squad that the Zips could beat on just as easily. It's one thing to want national recognition and respect for your achievements, but IMO you set yourself up to be disrespected when you play squads like that. Your home slate stinks...but there are some very good road games on the slate and an opportunity to build a decent resume should you win them.

I just hope those same people who disrespect us will take the time to watch us play in the NCAA Basketball Tournament next March. A week before that, they can watch us win the MAC Championship on ESPN.

[Districtballer]

I wasn't speaking so much to the overall schedule (which looks fine and actually stronger than you've had in a while), as much as I was referring to scheduling non D1's in the regular season. That is not something everyone does. D1 transitional teams do that and weaker D1 squads, of which the Zips are neither. I'm sure Dambrot could have gotten a sub 300+ RPI squad that the Zips could beat on just as easily. It's one thing to want national recognition and respect for your achievements, but IMO you set yourself up to be disrespected when you play squads like that. Your home slate stinks...but there are some very good road games on the slate and an opportunity to build a decent resume should you win them.

I just hope those same people who disrespect us will take the time to watch us play in the NCAA Basketball Tournament next March. A week before that, they can watch us win the MAC Championship on ESPN.

That's certainly one way to shut up people who disrespect. If it doesn't happen, just don't be surprised if the analysts are talking down Akron because you played Hiram if you're on the bubble.

[Zip Watcher]

I wasn't speaking so much to the overall schedule (which looks fine and actually stronger than you've had in a while), as much as I was referring to scheduling non D1's in the regular season. That is not something everyone does. D1 transitional teams do that and weaker D1 squads, of which the Zips are neither. I'm sure Dambrot could have gotten a sub 300+ RPI squad that the Zips could beat on just as easily. It's one thing to want national recognition and respect for your achievements, but IMO you set yourself up to be disrespected when you play squads like that. Your home slate stinks...but there are some very good road games on the slate and an opportunity to build a decent resume should you win them.

I just hope those same people who disrespect us will take the time to watch us play in the NCAA Basketball Tournament next March. A week before that, they can watch us win the MAC Championship on ESPN.

B) B) +10

[Doug Snyder]

All times TBD. Back to back Ken+ games in March are going to be brutal.

This looks like a pretty challenging schedule to me. Outside of the major programs, there is YSU so the fans will have fun. CSU is a good program and it should be a fun game to attend. Detroit has history as a good program. We have MTSU for a trip down memory lane in Tennessee. We all know what VCU can do. WVU is a good program....too bad it is on a weeknight so not many will get to see the Zips play in a really good college arena. Three road games in a row to start January will provide a good challenge as well."Challenging" is the word I would use to describe this schedule. Some say it isn't any good because of Hiram and JC...everyone plays those types of cupcakes and two games don't make an entire schedule weak.

I wasn't speaking so much to the overall schedule (which looks fine and actually stronger than you've had in a while), as much as I was referring to scheduling non D1's in the regular season. That is not something everyone does. D1 transitional teams do that and weaker D1 squads, of which the Zips are neither. I'm sure Dambrot could have gotten a sub 300+ RPI squad that the Zips could beat on just as easily. It's one thing to want national recognition and respect for your achievements, but IMO you set yourself up to be disrespected when you play squads like that. Your home slate stinks...but there are some very good road games on the slate and an opportunity to build a decent resume should you win them.

Marian?? http://www.butlersports.com/sports/m-baskbl/2010-11/scheduleI would prefer we play cupcakes like Gonzaga does to get into rythem http://www.gozags.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPS...p;Q_SEASON=2010 Most good teams play cupcakes to get the rhythm going, lose the jitters of first game and to correct flaws without jeopardizing the season. I think KD likes to schedule local teams because it is good for their program and good for us. He is from the area and is big on loyalty....I can't find fault with his approach. So...we schedule a lower level local team every year. It does not affect our RPI so who cares.

[Z.I.P.]

All times TBD. Back to back Ken+ games in March are going to be brutal.

This looks like a pretty challenging schedule to me. Outside of the major programs, there is YSU so the fans will have fun. CSU is a good program and it should be a fun game to attend. Detroit has history as a good program. We have MTSU for a trip down memory lane in Tennessee. We all know what VCU can do. WVU is a good program....too bad it is on a weeknight so not many will get to see the Zips play in a really good college arena. Three road games in a row to start January will provide a good challenge as well."Challenging" is the word I would use to describe this schedule. Some say it isn't any good because of Hiram and JC...everyone plays those types of cupcakes and two games don't make an entire schedule weak.

I wasn't speaking so much to the overall schedule (which looks fine and actually stronger than you've had in a while), as much as I was referring to scheduling non D1's in the regular season. That is not something everyone does. D1 transitional teams do that and weaker D1 squads, of which the Zips are neither. I'm sure Dambrot could have gotten a sub 300+ RPI squad that the Zips could beat on just as easily. It's one thing to want national recognition and respect for your achievements, but IMO you set yourself up to be disrespected when you play squads like that. Your home slate stinks...but there are some very good road games on the slate and an opportunity to build a decent resume should you win them.

Marian?? http://www.butlersports.com/sports/m-baskbl/2010-11/scheduleI would prefer we play cupcakes like Gonzaga does to get into rythem http://www.gozags.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPS...p;Q_SEASON=2010 Most good teams play cupcakes to get the rhythm going, lose the jitters of first game and to correct flaws without jeopardizing the season. I think KD likes to schedule local teams because it is good for their program and good for us. He is from the area and is big on loyalty....I can't find fault with his approach. So...we schedule a lower level local team every year. It does not affect our RPI so who cares.

Who's better -- Lewis and Clark, or Hiram?

[Dave in Green]

I can understand how a D1 team might get a little disrespect for playing non-D1 opponents. It would be just as easy to schedule a sub-300 RPI D1 team. Of course the Zips already have a number of those on the schedule, including within the MAC.The only real positive I can think of for playing a non-D1 team vs. playing a lowly D1 team is that it doesn't drag down SOS any further than it already is by virtue of playing in the MAC.It appears that other D1 schools that have non-D1 teams on their schedules almost always play nearby, in-state teams. So maybe it's a courtesy-type thing of contributing to smaller state schools by allowing them to play up.Doug brings up the best point of all, though. Butler had little NAIA Marian on their schedule, and the Bulldogs have played in the last two consecutive NCAA national championship games, as anyone from VCU must be painfully aware.

[Dr Z]

All times TBD. Back to back Ken+ games in March are going to be brutal.

This looks like a pretty challenging schedule to me. Outside of the major programs, there is YSU so the fans will have fun. CSU is a good program and it should be a fun game to attend. Detroit has history as a good program. We have MTSU for a trip down memory lane in Tennessee. We all know what VCU can do. WVU is a good program....too bad it is on a weeknight so not many will get to see the Zips play in a really good college arena. Three road games in a row to start January will provide a good challenge as well."Challenging" is the word I would use to describe this schedule. Some say it isn't any good because of Hiram and JC...everyone plays those types of cupcakes and two games don't make an entire schedule weak.

I wasn't speaking so much to the overall schedule (which looks fine and actually stronger than you've had in a while), as much as I was referring to scheduling non D1's in the regular season. That is not something everyone does. D1 transitional teams do that and weaker D1 squads, of which the Zips are neither. I'm sure Dambrot could have gotten a sub 300+ RPI squad that the Zips could beat on just as easily. It's one thing to want national recognition and respect for your achievements, but IMO you set yourself up to be disrespected when you play squads like that. Your home slate stinks...but there are some very good road games on the slate and an opportunity to build a decent resume should you win them.

Marian?? http://www.butlersports.com/sports/m-baskbl/2010-11/scheduleI would prefer we play cupcakes like Gonzaga does to get into rythem http://www.gozags.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPS...p;Q_SEASON=2010 Most good teams play cupcakes to get the rhythm going, lose the jitters of first game and to correct flaws without jeopardizing the season. I think KD likes to schedule local teams because it is good for their program and good for us. He is from the area and is big on loyalty....I can't find fault with his approach. So...we schedule a lower level local team every year. It does not affect our RPI so who cares.

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[Zipmeister]

All times TBD. Back to back Ken+ games in March are going to be brutal.

This looks like a pretty challenging schedule to me. Outside of the major programs, there is YSU so the fans will have fun. CSU is a good program and it should be a fun game to attend. Detroit has history as a good program. We have MTSU for a trip down memory lane in Tennessee. We all know what VCU can do. WVU is a good program....too bad it is on a weeknight so not many will get to see the Zips play in a really good college arena. Three road games in a row to start January will provide a good challenge as well."Challenging" is the word I would use to describe this schedule. Some say it isn't any good because of Hiram and JC...everyone plays those types of cupcakes and two games don't make an entire schedule weak.

I wasn't speaking so much to the overall schedule (which looks fine and actually stronger than you've had in a while), as much as I was referring to scheduling non D1's in the regular season. That is not something everyone does. D1 transitional teams do that and weaker D1 squads, of which the Zips are neither. I'm sure Dambrot could have gotten a sub 300+ RPI squad that the Zips could beat on just as easily. It's one thing to want national recognition and respect for your achievements, but IMO you set yourself up to be disrespected when you play squads like that. Your home slate stinks...but there are some very good road games on the slate and an opportunity to build a decent resume should you win them.

Marian?? http://www.butlersports.com/sports/m-baskbl/2010-11/scheduleI would prefer we play cupcakes like Gonzaga does to get into rythem http://www.gozags.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPS...p;Q_SEASON=2010 Most good teams play cupcakes to get the rhythm going, lose the jitters of first game and to correct flaws without jeopardizing the season. I think KD likes to schedule local teams because it is good for their program and good for us. He is from the area and is big on loyalty....I can't find fault with his approach. So...we schedule a lower level local team every year. It does not affect our RPI so who cares.

Who's better -- Lewis and Clark, or Hiram?

Personally I find that a tough call. Hiram is a pro, but there are two of the other guys and they are both a lot younger than Hiram. I have included links to info on all three to help others reach there own answer to your question.http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/bviewp...sp?Player=76609http://newsandtribune.com/clarksports/x947...ong-IUS-signeeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Fuller

[Districtballer]

I can understand how a D1 team might get a little disrespect for playing non-D1 opponents. It would be just as easy to schedule a sub-300 RPI D1 team. Of course the Zips already have a number of those on the schedule, including within the MAC.The only real positive I can think of for playing a non-D1 team vs. playing a lowly D1 team is that it doesn't drag down SOS any further than it already is by virtue of playing in the MAC.It appears that other D1 schools that have non-D1 teams on their schedules almost always play nearby, in-state teams. So maybe it's a courtesy-type thing of contributing to smaller state schools by allowing them to play up.Doug brings up the best point of all, though. Butler had little NAIA Marian on their schedule, and the Bulldogs have played in the last two consecutive NCAA national championship games, as anyone from VCU must be painfully aware.

We're still too blissfully overjoyed to have even been in a position to play for a spot in the national title game to think of the experience as painful. It's my greatest sports experience bar none. I can understand the 'helping out the local team' angle and the point about it not affecting RPI is very valid. In that sense, I guess it's extra preparation without having any risk of a hit to the resume. An extra exhibition game that you will almost definitely win and counts toward your win total without adversely affecting your NCAA resume. Interesting, but I can see how it has some merits.

[GP1]

Personally I find that a tough call. Hiram is a pro, but there are two of the other guys and they are both a lot younger than Hiram. I have included links to info on all three to help others reach there own answer to your question.http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/bviewp...sp?Player=76609http://newsandtribune.com/clarksports/x947...ong-IUS-signeeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Fuller

I always thought Lewis shot himself in the head....Great BookAkron connection....President Garfield was once President of Hiram College.

[Zipmeister]

Personally I find that a tough call. Hiram is a pro, but there are two of the other guys and they are both a lot younger than Hiram. I have included links to info on all three to help others reach there own answer to your question.http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/bviewp...sp?Player=76609http://newsandtribune.com/clarksports/x947...ong-IUS-signeeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Fuller

I always thought Lewis shot himself in the head....Great BookAkron connection....President Garfield was once President of Hiram College.

Yes, and he later became a cartoon cat, but we are straying from the thread topic and this irritates some posters.

[GP1]

Yes, and he later became a cartoon cat, but we are straying from the thread topic and this irritates some posters.

You used a form of the word "stray" and "cat" in the same sentence. Well done.This schedule does not stray from what that cat KD likes to do. I look for another good season.

[Doug Snyder]

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[dboze]

FYI...Serb (Nik) is back on campus and playing in Open gym with the Team. Welcome back!!

[Blue & Gold]

FYI...Serb (Nik) is back on campus and playing in Open gym with the Team. Welcome back!!

Yesssss! Basketball news!!!

[johnnyzip84]

FYI...Serb (Nik) is back on campus and playing in Open gym with the Team. Welcome back!!

Yesssss! Basketball news!!!

I wonder if he brought his gold medal with him?

[yazan07]

FYI...Serb (Nik) is back on campus and playing in Open gym with the Team. Welcome back!!

Yeah, so about that. If he just got back, that means he missed the first three weeks of the semester. If he missed the first three weeks of the semester, did he really just miss class that long, or is he not enrolled in classes this semester? We know Nik only had one semester of school left, which is why he was just going to take classes through last summer and then graduate. Since he didn't do that, it would make sense if he was just taking classes in the Spring. If that is the case though, is he allowed to play in the matches this semester? Technically he wouldn't be a student, right? I'm not sure how all that works. I was just wondering if this is going to be a thing of we have him back for next semester but he can't play for the out of conference games. Someone please enlighten me.

[Valpo Zip]

He could be registered for practicum or independent study classes. No attendance required.

[Dave in Green]

Anyone heard of Mississippi State's Renardo Sidney? Looks like he may be a real challenge for the Zips.Here's what John Lucas had to say about Sidney after the MSU player worked out with Lucas for two months this summer:"He's the third-most talented guy who has ever been in my gym, behind Kobe and LeBron," said former NBA player/coach John Lucas. "I had never seen him before, but now I see what all the fuss is about. He's got everything. He can do whatever he wants on the court. He's that talented." Kobe, LeBron and ... Renardo

[Roo]

Anyone heard of Mississippi State's Renardo Sidney? Looks like he may be a real challenge for the Zips.Here's what John Lucas had to say about Sidney after the MSU player worked out with Lucas for two months this summer:"He's the third-most talented guy who has ever been in my gym, behind Kobe and LeBron," said former NBA player/coach John Lucas. "I had never seen him before, but now I see what all the fuss is about. He's got everything. He can do whatever he wants on the court. He's that talented." Kobe, LeBron and ... Renardo

Kid is a headcase and has a rep for being lazy and selfish, but he is a monster as far as being a talent. Zeke will have his hands full because he is a grown man in the post.

[Dave in Green]

As Roo notes, Sidney is apparently a monster of a talent with a poor attitude. If he can find himself, he could be an NBA superstar. If not, he could remain a project for the rest of his life. He's 6-10 and weighed 270 last season. Apparently Lucas got him to drop 20 pounds, so he's down to 250, which the scouts seem to think is his ideal playing weight.Both UCLA and USC were really after him until he visited, then all of a sudden they lost interest. Mississippi State was his third choice, and they took a gamble on him. Even with a bad attitude, he impacts games. What if Lucas got through to him and made an impact on his attitude along with his weight?It's all speculation right now. But the cool thing is that he will probably be the best raw talent Zeke will face this season, and Zeke needs challenges like that to show what he's got.But it's not clear if Sidney would go up against Zeke. Sidney is a 6-10 forward. Mississipi State has a 6-9, 260-pound center. They also have a 6-10, 249-pound forward. And they also have a 6-11, 249-pound forward. In other words, Mississippi State has a lot of tall, beefy players.Zeke's going to need a lot of help from the rest of the Zips' frontcourt in this game.

[Zip Watcher]

Serb was back when classes started.Go Zips!

[GoZips]

As Roo notes, Sidney is apparently a monster of a talent with a poor attitude. If he can find himself, he could be an NBA superstar. If not, he could remain a project for the rest of his life. He's 6-10 and weighed 270 last season. Apparently Lucas got him to drop 20 pounds, so he's down to 250, which the scouts seem to think is his ideal playing weight.Both UCLA and USC were really after him until he visited, then all of a sudden they lost interest. Mississippi State was his third choice, and they took a gamble on him. Even with a bad attitude, he impacts games. What if Lucas got through to him and made an impact on his attitude along with his weight?It's all speculation right now. But the cool thing is that he will probably be the best raw talent Zeke will face this season, and Zeke needs challenges like that to show what he's got.But it's not clear if Sidney would go up against Zeke. Sidney is a 6-10 forward. Mississipi State has a 6-9, 260-pound center. They also have a 6-10, 249-pound forward. And they also have a 6-11, 249-pound forward. In other words, Mississippi State has a lot of tall, beefy players.Zeke's going to need a lot of help from the rest of the Zips' frontcourt in this game.

Excellent observations. MSU will be the Zips toughest front court foe all season.

[GoZips]

Serb was back when classes started.Go Zips!

Thanks for the heads up, ZW.