Ianello Press conference from OSU

[xu9697]

Miami going from 1-11 to MAC champions least year is another one to look at to "compare".One interesting tidbit: 2009: Miami went 1-11 and were outscored 410-1872010: Zips went 1-11 and were outscored 421-187Golden faced a considerably tougher schedule in his 1-11 season: his team was outscored 496-131All kinds of fun numbers and results here:http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia_team_index.phpAny faith I have in Ianallo relates to the last 3 games of last year where we started to look better. I think it is A LOT to ask for a win against Temple. But a strong performance is a must. Progress from the last 3 beatdowns from them. UC might still hit us pretty hard after that, but then the winning must start in those next few weeks with VMI, EMU, FIU, etc.

[Big Zip]

@Doug Snyder I didn't say the win was against a Div. 1-AA school -- I said he didn't lose to a 1-AA school. The win was against BGSU.

[GP1]

Miami going from 1-11 to MAC champions least year is another one to look at to "compare".One interesting tidbit: 2009: Miami went 1-11 and were outscored 410-1872010: Zips went 1-11 and were outscored 421-187

Interesting stat...the 187 number is almost amazing it happened two years in a row. I'd love a math major to calculate the probability of that happening.In order to score 187 points this season, we need to average 17 points per game...doesn't seem like that should be hard to do. I'm setting the over/under on our point total for the remainder of the season at 220.

[Doug Snyder]

@Doug Snyder I didn't say the win was against a Div. 1-AA school -- I said he didn't lose to a 1-AA school. The win was against BGSU.

OH Ok. Then they did not play a Div 1-AA school

[GP1]

Caring, and knowing what you're doing are two totally different things. Proenza is a genius. But he knows less about football than Zach. He's entrusted Wistercill to pick a winner. If he was wrong, we will not have good football @ Infocision until 2018, at the earliest.

I don't disagree with a single word. That last sentence scares the crap out of me though, because it could be true. 2018 is a long way away.I too can't take another building process, so I'm hoping that Coach I gets things turned around...and soon. There are always reasons why a team is bad. We'll know a lot more about this team after Saturday. Jesus....2018....how depressing.

[you am i]

I know we are not dealing with a Nick Saban or Urban Meyer here, but it's instructive to see what a difference a really good coach in the MAC can make in a short period of time.BGSU was 2-9 in 2000, with several losing seasons before that. In his two years at Bowling Green, Urban Meyer went 8-3, 9-3. He went to Utah in 2002 after Utah went 5-6 in 2001. They went 10-2 and 12-0 in his two years there.Toledo was coming off consecutive 5-6 seasons when they hired Nick Saban. The next year UT went 9-2 under Saban.To watch Akron make a big step backwards under this guy last year was hard to stomach. Hire the right coach and there's no reason Akron could not be winning 8 or 9 games a season in a few years.

[Zipmeister]

I know we are not dealing with a Nick Saban or Urban Meyer here, but it's instructive to see what a difference a really good coach in the MAC can make in a short period of time.BGSU was 2-9 in 2000, with several losing seasons before that. In his two years at Bowling Green, Urban Meyer went 8-3, 9-3. He went to Utah in 2002 after Utah went 5-6 in 2001. They went 10-2 and 12-0 in his two years there.Toledo was coming off consecutive 5-6 seasons when they hired Nick Saban. The next year UT went 9-2 under Saban.To watch Akron make a big step backwards under this guy last year was hard to stomach. Hire the right coach and there's no reason Akron could not be winning 8 or 9 games a season in a few years.

The coaches who preceded Saban and Meyer must have done a wonderful job of stocking their rosters with great players so that Nick and Urban could be so successful right out of the gate.

[Doug Snyder]

Caring, and knowing what you're doing are two totally different things. Proenza is a genius. But he knows less about football than Zach. He's entrusted Wistercill to pick a winner. If he was wrong, we will not have good football @ Infocision until 2018, at the earliest.

I don't disagree with a single word. That last sentence scares the crap out of me though, because it could be true. 2018 is a long way away.I too can't take another building process, so I'm hoping that Coach I gets things turned around...and soon. There are always reasons why a team is bad. We'll know a lot more about this team after Saturday. Jesus....2018....how depressing.

2018 works only if ICoach fails miserably and we do not replace him before the end of his contract. I doubt that he would be given more than 3 years if he is losing 8-10 games in year 3. If so...2013+3 would be 2016 at the outside. Not that that would be good...but you are taking the worst case scenario as the most likely.There is a movie you should all watch. Kelly's HeroesI feel like Oddball in the movie... Oddball: Always with the negative waves Mikey, always with the negative waves. I like this line better... Oddball: Crazy... I mean like, so many positive waves... maybe we can't lose, you're on!

[Buckzip]

I know we are not dealing with a Nick Saban or Urban Meyer here, but it's instructive to see what a difference a really good coach in the MAC can make in a short period of time.BGSU was 2-9 in 2000, with several losing seasons before that. In his two years at Bowling Green, Urban Meyer went 8-3, 9-3. He went to Utah in 2002 after Utah went 5-6 in 2001. They went 10-2 and 12-0 in his two years there.Toledo was coming off consecutive 5-6 seasons when they hired Nick Saban. The next year UT went 9-2 under Saban.To watch Akron make a big step backwards under this guy last year was hard to stomach. Hire the right coach and there's no reason Akron could not be winning 8 or 9 games a season in a few years.

The coaches who preceded Saban and Meyer must have done a wonderful job of stocking their rosters with great players so that Nick and Urban could be so successful right out of the gate.

Isn't there an old saying of A great coach can beat you with his players and then turn around and beat you with your players? A great coach can make fair talent look pretty darn good. A bad coach can make that same talent look terrible.

[johnnyzip84]

I know we are not dealing with a Nick Saban or Urban Meyer here, but it's instructive to see what a difference a really good coach in the MAC can make in a short period of time.BGSU was 2-9 in 2000, with several losing seasons before that. In his two years at Bowling Green, Urban Meyer went 8-3, 9-3. He went to Utah in 2002 after Utah went 5-6 in 2001. They went 10-2 and 12-0 in his two years there.Toledo was coming off consecutive 5-6 seasons when they hired Nick Saban. The next year UT went 9-2 under Saban.To watch Akron make a big step backwards under this guy last year was hard to stomach. Hire the right coach and there's no reason Akron could not be winning 8 or 9 games a season in a few years.

The coaches who preceded Saban and Meyer must have done a wonderful job of stocking their rosters with great players so that Nick and Urban could be so successful right out of the gate.

Isn't there an old saying of A great coach can beat you with his players and then turn around and beat you with your players? A great coach can make fair talent look pretty darn good. A bad coach can make that same talent look terrible.

Of course I'm not saying these two aren't great coaches. But I think it's easy to sluff off the fact that they did this at two of the MAC's all-time winningest programs. The cupboard certainly wasn't bare when they arrived. It MAY be considerably harder at a place like UA, EMU or Temple, with little sustained success at the D-1 level.And Toledo was actually coming off of consecutive 6-5 seasons before hiring Saban (who only stayed 1 year, allowing Pinkel to get his career started in a nice environment).

[you am i]

I know we are not dealing with a Nick Saban or Urban Meyer here, but it's instructive to see what a difference a really good coach in the MAC can make in a short period of time.BGSU was 2-9 in 2000, with several losing seasons before that. In his two years at Bowling Green, Urban Meyer went 8-3, 9-3. He went to Utah in 2002 after Utah went 5-6 in 2001. They went 10-2 and 12-0 in his two years there.Toledo was coming off consecutive 5-6 seasons when they hired Nick Saban. The next year UT went 9-2 under Saban.To watch Akron make a big step backwards under this guy last year was hard to stomach. Hire the right coach and there's no reason Akron could not be winning 8 or 9 games a season in a few years.

The coaches who preceded Saban and Meyer must have done a wonderful job of stocking their rosters with great players so that Nick and Urban could be so successful right out of the gate.

Both programs were struggling when those guys took over. Their impact was immediate. It's possible for that to happen at Akron.Isn't there an old saying of A great coach can beat you with his players and then turn around and beat you with your players? A great coach can make fair talent look pretty darn good. A bad coach can make that same talent look terrible.

Of course I'm not saying these two aren't great coaches. But I think it's easy to sluff off the fact that they did this at two of the MAC's all-time winningest programs. The cupboard certainly wasn't bare when they arrived. It MAY be considerably harder at a place like UA, EMU or Temple, with little sustained success at the D-1 level.

[Dave in Green]

Nick Saban and Urban Meyer are two really good examples of great college head coaches. It's interesting that both got their first college head coaching positions in the MAC with experience only as assistant coaches and no experience as head coaches at a lower collegiate level. They were both able to instantly turn so-so MAC teams into good MAC teams. That fast MAC success was an early sign that they were both capable of greater things, and they continued to deliver on the promise.At this point, Rob Ianello isn't even in that discussion. His first year as a head coach in the MAC was obviously ugly. It remains to be seen if things will be better this season. It's still possible that he could grow into a great college coach. Some people are late bloomers who don't immediately show their full potential. It's also possible that he's simply not cut out to be a head coach. That's the gamble that UA took, and even though it hasn't paid immediate dividends, it still could.I know that some folks already think they have it figured out. More power to anyone who has researched the crap out of it and have reached a really thoughtful conclusion. I've done a fair amount of research and am not yet able to reach a conclusion. As time goes by and results continue to mount, it will become increasingly obvious to everyone if Ianello is cut out to be a head coach.The odds against UA picking a future great head coach are small simply because there are so few truly great ones. I'd be happy if UA simply had a solid head coach who produced consistent winning records, even if he didn't win the MAC championship every season.I'm hoping that Ianello develops fairly quickly into a solid head coach. If not, UA has to take another gamble on another assistant or a head coach from a lower division, and there are no guarantees that any of them will be good enough to satisfy Zips fans.

[K92]

I know we are not dealing with a Nick Saban or Urban Meyer here, but it's instructive to see what a difference a really good coach in the MAC can make in a short period of time.BGSU was 2-9 in 2000, with several losing seasons before that. In his two years at Bowling Green, Urban Meyer went 8-3, 9-3. He went to Utah in 2002 after Utah went 5-6 in 2001. They went 10-2 and 12-0 in his two years there.Toledo was coming off consecutive 5-6 seasons when they hired Nick Saban. The next year UT went 9-2 under Saban.To watch Akron make a big step backwards under this guy last year was hard to stomach. Hire the right coach and there's no reason Akron could not be winning 8 or 9 games a season in a few years.

The coaches who preceded Saban and Meyer must have done a wonderful job of stocking their rosters with great players so that Nick and Urban could be so successful right out of the gate.

Isn't there an old saying of A great coach can beat you with his players and then turn around and beat you with your players? A great coach can make fair talent look pretty darn good. A bad coach can make that same talent look terrible.

I believe it was Bum Phillips that said Bear "Bryant can take his and beat yours,and then he can turn around and take yours and beat his.”If you are around my age, just thinking back about that character Bum makes you smile a little bit.

[GP1]

Nick Saban and Urban Meyer are two really good examples of great college head coaches. It's interesting that both got their first college head coaching positions in the MAC with experience only as assistant coaches and no experience as head coaches at a lower collegiate level. They were both able to instantly turn so-so MAC teams into good MAC teams. That fast MAC success was an early sign that they were both capable of greater things, and they continued to deliver on the promise.

I would like to respond to my esteemed colleague from Green in the matter at hand.I'm not looking for Coach I to be a great coach. I'm just looking for him to get the job done like the guy at Miamioh did last year.

[Sergeant Zip]

Incase it hasn't been posted, Coach I was mad at the sportsmanship of Fickell during the post-game handshake.

[skip-zip]

I know we are not dealing with a Nick Saban or Urban Meyer here, but it's instructive to see what a difference a really good coach in the MAC can make in a short period of time.BGSU was 2-9 in 2000, with several losing seasons before that. In his two years at Bowling Green, Urban Meyer went 8-3, 9-3. He went to Utah in 2002 after Utah went 5-6 in 2001. They went 10-2 and 12-0 in his two years there.Toledo was coming off consecutive 5-6 seasons when they hired Nick Saban. The next year UT went 9-2 under Saban.To watch Akron make a big step backwards under this guy last year was hard to stomach. Hire the right coach and there's no reason Akron could not be winning 8 or 9 games a season in a few years.

The coaches who preceded Saban and Meyer must have done a wonderful job of stocking their rosters with great players so that Nick and Urban could be so successful right out of the gate.

I think this is a good point, Zipmeister. Yes, some coaches are special. I think we're fortunate to have one of those type of people running our basketball program. But, you can't win with bad players. Something had to be there before they arrived. They certainly didn't magically turn a bunch of bad football players into winners.

[Dave in Green]

Nick Saban and Urban Meyer are two really good examples of great college head coaches. It's interesting that both got their first college head coaching positions in the MAC with experience only as assistant coaches and no experience as head coaches at a lower collegiate level. They were both able to instantly turn so-so MAC teams into good MAC teams. That fast MAC success was an early sign that they were both capable of greater things, and they continued to deliver on the promise.

I would like to respond to my esteemed colleague from Green in the matter at hand.I'm not looking for Coach I to be a great coach. I'm just looking for him to get the job done like the guy at Miamioh did last year.

The gentleman from the Carolinas may have overlooked the end of my post where I stated that I'm hoping that Ianello develops fairly quickly into a solid head coach. So we are in total agreement on this issue.

[GP1]

Nick Saban and Urban Meyer are two really good examples of great college head coaches. It's interesting that both got their first college head coaching positions in the MAC with experience only as assistant coaches and no experience as head coaches at a lower collegiate level. They were both able to instantly turn so-so MAC teams into good MAC teams. That fast MAC success was an early sign that they were both capable of greater things, and they continued to deliver on the promise.

I would like to respond to my esteemed colleague from Green in the matter at hand.I'm not looking for Coach I to be a great coach. I'm just looking for him to get the job done like the guy at Miamioh did last year.

The gentleman from the Carolinas may have overlooked the end of my post where I stated that I'm hoping that Ianello develops fairly quickly into a solid head coach. So we are in total agreement on this issue.

Thank you to my esteemed colleague from Green for pointing that critical issue out. The Great GP1 had a little bit too much beer last night and got accidentally drunk. This explains the reading deficiencies.

[Dr Z]

I believe it was Bum Phillips that said Bear "Bryant can take his and beat yours,and then he can turn around and take yours and beat his.” If you are around my age, just thinking back about that character Bum makes you smile a little bit.

I loved Bum because "he couldn't kick the door in!".... here's another one...."How do you win? By getting average players to play good and good players to play great. That's how you win."Your quotes in the video Keener, same, but different.

[Doug Snyder]

I believe it was Bum Phillips that said Bear "Bryant can take his and beat yours,and then he can turn around and take yours and beat his.” If you are around my age, just thinking back about that character Bum makes you smile a little bit.

I loved Bum because "he couldn't kick the door in!".... here's another one...."How do you win? By getting average players to play good and good players to play great. That's how you win."Your quotes in the video Keener, same, but different.

That is that is how I remembered it. Bum said of Don Shula "he can beat yorn with hisin and turn around and beat hisin with yorn". I have always been a Dolpin fan..from 1st win long long aga. Bum was graet even though he had te Dolphins # in the big games. Then again...he had the best player too.

[skip-zip]

I believe it was Bum Phillips that said Bear "Bryant can take his and beat yours,and then he can turn around and take yours and beat his.” If you are around my age, just thinking back about that character Bum makes you smile a little bit.

I loved Bum because "he couldn't kick the door in!".... here's another one...."How do you win? By getting average players to play good and good players to play great. That's how you win."Your quotes in the video Keener, same, but different.

That is that is how I remembered it. Bum said of Don Shula "he can beat yorn with hisin and turn around and beat hisin with yorn". I have always been a Dolpin fan..from 1st win long long aga. Bum was graet even though he had te Dolphins # in the big games. Then again...he had the best player too.

Did I just detect someone while posting on Zips Nation? Come on Doug. Saturday is still a long way off. But, if you were able to start early, kudos to you

[Doug Snyder]

I believe it was Bum Phillips that said Bear "Bryant can take his and beat yours,and then he can turn around and take yours and beat his.” If you are around my age, just thinking back about that character Bum makes you smile a little bit.

I loved Bum because "he couldn't kick the door in!".... here's another one...."How do you win? By getting average players to play good and good players to play great. That's how you win."Your quotes in the video Keener, same, but different.

That is that is how I remembered it. Bum said of Don Shula "he can beat yorn with hisin and turn around and beat hisin with yorn". I have always been a Dolpin fan..from 1st win long long aga. Bum was graet even though he had te Dolphins # in the big games. Then again...he had the best player too.

Did I just detect someone while posting on Zips Nation? Come on Doug. Saturday is still a long way off. But, if you were able to start early, kudos to you

Sorry I work on my PC/Internet at night and did not get to bed till 5:45 and then had to get up at 9 to take my wife to Dr. (birth of 2nd daughter this Saturday hopefully.). I could give lots more excuses but I will just admit it was a poor post lol Would have preferred the drinking excuse ;-)

[K92]

I thought Bum said that, but I couldn't remember about who, so. I googled it and came up with the Bryant quote. Thought if it was written on the internet, it was true. Thanks for the vid, Dr. When I was a kid I loved to watch Earl Campbell.

[johnnyzip84]

I think the Temple comparisson is fair as far as the state of a program and the objective to turn it around.The comparisson of Al Golden to Rob Ianello not even close. If you read through Al Golden's bio the amount of success he realized in being an assistant and an actual Defensive Coordinator dwarfs that of Ianello. Golden's track record was quite impressive with better and better jobs where as Ianello was a wide receivers coach (interim head coach doesn't count because he didn't coach a game). With that in mind I'll be happy with five wins (one being over VMI). By the way look at Golden's record in the 1-11 season again -- there was no loss to a Div. 1-AA school like there was on Ianellos.

You bring up a good point about Golden's much more extensive qualifications. Still, his early period at Temple is among the worst in recent memory. Why couldn't we have scheduled Memphis this year? We OWE them!!