GP1 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 When you guys had Q&A time with Coach B at the golf outing, did he mention he was planning on starting his freshman QB? George Thomas, Have you heard this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 When you guys had Q&A time with Coach B at the golf outing, did he mention he was planning on starting his freshman QB? As quick as Pohl is ready is as quick as he will start. Smart money is on Williams to begin the season, and Pohl to end it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 As quick as Pohl is ready is as quick as he will start. Smart money is on Williams to begin the season, and Pohl to end it. I don't know about timing, but a good source told me a Freshman is going to start next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I don't know about timing, but a good source told me a Freshman is going to start next year. Your source sounds smart. It may or may not be Pohl that starts, but so many talented QBs are freshmen this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Maybe we should wait for training camp and practice and stuff before we crown a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Maybe we should wait for training camp and practice and stuff before we crown a QB. If the Coach didn't wait, why should we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 If the Coach didn't wait, why should we? A source told me the winning Lotto numbers for Friday. Want to play them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 A source told me the winning Lotto numbers for Friday. Want to play them? Lots of people don't believe things until they read them in the newspaper. Really old people...but lots of them. Feel free to check back and review this thread in August. If only picking winning Lotto numbers was as easy as picking Ole Miss to be 3rd string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Lots of people don't believe things until they read them in the newspaper. Really old people...but lots of them. Feel free to check back and review this thread in August. If only picking winning Lotto numbers was as easy as picking Ole Miss to be 3rd string. And just because it is on the Internet does not make it true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 If you ask TB a direct question, he will give you an honest answer to that question. TB's evaluation of LR8 was the same as Dr Z's. For those of you that were looking for the staff to use a "dual threat" QB, you can forget it. Coach told us that he doesn't like his QB running the ball because the QB needs get the next play from the sideline, and line the team up for the next play. If the QB is at the bottom of the pile, he is limiting his time to do this effectively. It's about time management. Coach doesn't forbid him to run, just prefers that he does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 If you ask TB a direct question, he will give you an honest answer to that question. TB's evaluation of LR8 was the same as Dr Z's. For those of you that were looking for the staff to use a "dual threat" QB, you can forget it. Coach told us that he doesn't like his QB running the ball because the QB needs get the next play from the sideline, and line the team up for the next play. If the QB is at the bottom of the pile, he is limiting his time to do this effectively. It's about time management. Coach doesn't forbid him to run, just prefers that he does not. And for those in the peanut gallery, just what was that evaluation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 And for those in the peanut gallery, just what was that evaluation? It would be read on the Internet, so who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 It would be read on the Internet, so who cares? Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeThomasABJ Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 When you guys had Q&A time with Coach B at the golf outing, did he mention he was planning on starting his freshman QB? George Thomas, Have you heard this? I was told by one of the QBs that they don't even have a depth chart yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I was told by one of the QBs that they don't even have a depth chart yet.Ask Terry, I'm sure he'll give you the same answer he gave us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Personally, I wanted to see two things here before practice starts in August. 1) I wanted to see Coach establish who was going to be a part of the competition. And I think he accomplished that for me by making a early decision on a Senior QB. So, he obviously was paying attention to past performance and the early part fo spring practice. And he saw what we've seen for 3 years, which doesn't surprise me at all. Which leads me to the 2nd thing I wanted to see. 2) I still don't think it's in our best interest to make a Senior the starter. In many respects, I want to see him lean toward a "the younger the better" philosophy, since this is a long term project. But, other than giving that heavy consideration, I still want our best guy on the field. And if a freshman is indeed our best QB, I don't want him to hesitate at making a freshman the starter. I trust his judgement so far on the QBs. And we'll see how it plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I still don't think it's in our best interest to make a Senior the starterWhat if that senior (that knows the offense) gives us the best chance to win our early games, but the younger guy gets more practice time (snaps) in to learn the new offense the first month(s), and then takes over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 What if that senior (that knows the offense) gives us the best chance to win our early games, but the younger guy gets more practice time (snaps) in to learn the new offense the first month(s), and then takes over? I'm totally in agreement with this strategy. It also isn't just about him getting more practice snaps. It's about the other guys who will be on the field with him getting game experiece before he starts. More than anything, his freshman season can't be a disaster and experienced players around him will help his development. Wake took a similar direction with Tanner Price a couple of years ago when he was a freshman and it worked out great for him. While he didn't start in every game, he played in every game and the freshman will need some experience before getting on the field. Even if the Zips get blown out by Tennessee, he could play in the fourth quarter. There isn't much difference between Tennessee's low back-ups and the MAC competition he will face later in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 The big thing here is that we all want to see some results after two seasons of absolute embarrassment. So whatever it takes to be competitive in the beginning of the season, while developing the future players. But if we start 0-4 it is going to be a horror, and we don't want a freshman who is a potential future starter to taste defeat so early in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 But if we start 0-4 it is going to be a horror, and we don't want a freshman who is a potential future starter to taste defeat so early in his career. The Zips play a I-AA team in the first four games. They won't start the season 0-4. I'm not so concerned about the losing as much as I am about seeing a QB find some success in a season that is going to produce a lot of bumps for him. If there is almost no chance of him finding some success next year, he shouldn't play. If there is a chance for some success and for him to improve his game greatly between his frosh and soph seasons, then start him. I don't want to see baby steps with players from year to year. This isn't high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 The Zips play a I-AA team in the first four games. They won't start the season 0-4. I'm not so concerned about the losing as much as I am about seeing a QB find some success in a season that is going to produce a lot of bumps for him. If there is almost no chance of him finding some success next year, he shouldn't play. If there is a chance for some success and for him to improve his game greatly between his frosh and soph seasons, then start him. I don't want to see baby steps with players from year to year. This isn't high school. I think we are on the same page. If a freshman spends most of the season on his back looking up it will impact his entire Div 1 career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I think we are on the same page. If a freshman spends most of the season on his back looking up it will impact his entire Div 1 career. A couple of thoughts come to mind: 1) TB's quick read, fast paced offense SHOULD result in fewer sacks this year, regardless of the QB. The line simply doesn't have to hold their blocks as long. So I'm not nearly as concerned of the QB getting "killed" as I was the last two years. This should not be a consideration for whether to play Pohl or not. 2) I completely agree with the sentiment that if Dalton gives us a better chance to start the season off on a more positive note, you have to play him. Having said that, the Zips could easily play relatively well in the first four games and still be 1-3 heading into MAC play. Even if that's the case, I still think playing the QB who is better prepared is still the correct move. The biggest thing TB is trying to do early in the season is get these guys to BELIEVE they can compete. If the team starts to rally around itself, regardless of the record, the situation Pohl may be required to step into will be far more fruitful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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