MaxZIP Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 I am going to preface this by acknowledging that Akron is having a down year....But the early hype surrounding Western teams is an annual event. This was a pretty good weekend for East teams. Miami even had a road win. We will just have to wait and see how the renovation/reload chips fall for Akron and Ohio. The door is open for the West but can they take advantage? Edit: I still think the guys will turn it around in MAC play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Let me just say this.... I hope last night's close game in Muncie between maybe the worst team in the West and one of the best teams in the East is not indicative of the relative strength of the two sides of the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxZIP Posted January 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Let me just say this.... I hope last night's close game in Muncie between maybe the worst team in the West and one of the best teams in the East is not indicative of the relative strength of the two sides of the conference. Right now the Zips are not one of the best in he East. They may become a front runner but the current level of play puts them in the middle of the pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Right now the Zips are not one of the best in he East. They may become a front runner but the current level of play puts them in the middle of the pack. I should have added the word "projected" to my post. Playing the way we did against a poor West team (projected) should be alarming to everyone. Keith has his work cut out for him. And I'll keep saying this phrase: "Lack Of Focus" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staton14 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 WMU and Miami currently in a good OT game in Oxford...WMU up 4 with a minute left in OT. Good effort from Miami today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staton14 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 WMU wins it with a free throw with 2 seconds left in OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Mighty Buffalo falls to lowly Ball State, 71-68, in Muncie. That leaves the Zips and Toledo alone at the top of the MAC at 4-1. Meanwhile, WMU smashes Can't, 75-59, leaving Can't as the only sub-.500 MAC East team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 There was much talk about the MAC being better this year and I suppose overall that it is. It seems though that almost all of this improvement has come in the west. Almost top to bottom the west is vastly tougher than it has been in many a moon. Even the bottom feeders like Ball and NIU have been competing. C Mich appears to be the only team over there that has not made at least a modest move forward. An argument can be made that the East is actually weaker and I buy into that. Can't has been on a giant free fall after a promising start. Us and OU have been inconsistent. Miami has improved but only marginally. BG will be BG until Louie gets fired. They seem to be exactly the same, year after year. Keith has been saying for years that very little separates the top from the bottom in this conference. I never really bought into that but this year he's spot on. Anybody can be beat on any given night in this seasons MAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Forgot about this thread, I had posted something on this topic in the EMU thread but even with the two wins last night the West is still only 13-6 against the East (but the only West team without an East victory is CMU - careful Zips). The more things change ... One other thing I noticed when looking at the standings was that of the 33 conferences only three (the MAC, Big South and OVC) still divide their basketball standings into two separate divisions. Even the monster 15 team ACC doesn't do that. Maybe with the new scheduling format it might be time to end it since divisons no longer matter in the MACC tournament seeding. What that would mean is that you would get 7 teams twice and four teams once which is exactly how it is now except the four are always from the opposite division. I think it is time to end the divisional format for basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 @MDZip, great observation. Maybe the new 18-game MAC schedule is a toe-in-the-water approach to possible future elimination of the divisions for basketball. It would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts on the pros and cons of doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 For all intents and purposes, it's pretty much two divisions in name only. You play everyone once, some teams twice.. And seeding for the tourney isn't based on divisions anymore. I'd say I'm all for one division, but we're basically there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 For the past decade, the MAC West was lobbying against eliminating divisions because that meant eliminating divisional championships, which were often the only thing they could sell recruits on in terms of actually winning something. They essentially lost the battle once the MAC stopped granting the top two tournament seeds to the divisional champions, because now the divisions are meaningless. Another year or two, and they'll be gone completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 the West is still only 13-6 against the East I was a tad surprised by that number. A huge turnaround when you consider that by my count the East went 24-12 vs the West last season. I'm guessing that the east enjoyed similar results going back much further than that season as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I was a tad surprised by that number. A huge turnaround when you consider that by my count the East went 24-12 vs the West last season. I'm guessing that the east enjoyed similar results going back much further than that season as well. To be clear, that wasn't the I should have stated it. The East has won 13 games againt the West this year while the West has only won 6. Sorry for any confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 To be clear, that wasn't the I should have stated it. The East has won 13 games againt the West this year while the West has only won 6. Sorry for any confusion. That makes a lot more sense though I do expect the West to cut into that margin a bit before crossover play concludes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Forgot about this thread, I had posted something on this topic in the EMU thread but even with the two wins last night the West is still only 13-6 against the East (but the only West team without an East victory is CMU - careful Zips). The more things change ... One other thing I noticed when looking at the standings was that of the 33 conferences only three (the MAC, Big South and OVC) still divide their basketball standings into two separate divisions. Even the monster 15 team ACC doesn't do that. Maybe with the new scheduling format it might be time to end it since divisons no longer matter in the MACC tournament seeding. What that would mean is that you would get 7 teams twice and four teams once which is exactly how it is now except the four are always from the opposite division. I think it is time to end the divisional format for basketball. I'm sure teams still like to proclaim themselves as MAC East or MAC West champs. One example is our girls team last year. Without that, they would not have had any "championship" to claim for their efforts, since they lost the MAC tourney. Other than that, I can't think of any benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 It's time for OU and EMU to provide Saturday morning entertainment in the MAC with an 11 a.m. start. EMU has jumped out to a 16-5 lead over the Kitties 8 minutes into the first half in Athens. EDIT: EMU up 30-22 at the half. Kitties are 6-28 from the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 11 minutes to go. EMU up 44-32. OU looks bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 EMU choked away a 12-13 point lead. HUGE scoring drought last 5 minutes. OU now up 58-56 with 5 seconds, the ball and EMU still has fouls to give. Thanks EMU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Massive choke job by the Eagles. Lose to OU in the last minute of play after being up by 12 with 11 to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Q: Why is there no attendance figure in the box score for the OU/EMU game? A: The guy in charge of counting didn't realize he could count himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Massive choke job by the Eagles. Lose to OU in the last minute of play after being up by 12 with 11 to play. This result was not exactly a feather in Rob Murphy's coaching cap. What is up with him burning timeouts like he does, forcing his team to play the last 4 or 5 minutes of a game without any? Horrible game management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 NIU played Buffalo close for most of the game, but the Canadians prevailed, 75-67. So both OU and Buffalo are 4-2, and either Miami or Bowling Green will also be 4-2 after their game ends in a couple of hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Can't State playing at Toledo right now. The Toledo stream is excellent. Savage Hall looks great. Go Rockets! Rockets up 37-36 at the half. Stream is solid and announcers are pretty good. Minor league score/time banner. Looks nice but score is slow to update and time is manually set to whole minutes left in the half (no running time). Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 K.E.N.T. giving the Rockets all they can handle, up 63-59 with 7:41 remaining at Savage Hall. Of course we all know next Saturday will be a battle, regardless of tonight's final score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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