Dave in Green Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Talk about a traffic jam at the top, how about a 4-way 6-3 tie in the East, which is really wide open now. In the West, UT is all alone at 6-3. Zips home game with UB Saturday is pretty big.OU 83, Zips 82WMU 67, Can't 66UB 82, BSU 78BGSU 76, CMU 74 (OT)UT 84, EMU 60NIU 69, MU 67EASTZips 6-3Can't 6-3UB 6-3BGSU 6-3OU 3-6MU 3-6WESTUT 6-3CMU 5-4WMU 5-4EMU 3-6NIU 3-6BSU 2-7Saturday's matchups:6-3 UB @ 6-3 Zips3-6 MU @ 6-3 Can't6-3 BGSU @ 3-6 NIU6-3 UT @ 2-7 BSU5-4 WMU @ 5-4 CMU3-6 EMU @ 3-6 OU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Box scores, recaps, watch replays, and video highlights of Mid-American gamesMid-American basketball standings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 The East is down to a 3-way tie at the top, and another co-leader will fall Tuesday when Can't visits the Zips.Zips 75, UB 72Can't 61, MU 60BGSU 69, NIU 65UT 72, BSU 61CMU 70, WMU 65OU 76, EMU 73EASTZips 7-3Can't 7-3BGSU 7-3UB 6-4OU 4-6MU 3-7WESTUT 7-3CMU 6-4WMU 5-5EMU 3-7NIU 3-7BSU 2-8Tuesday's matchups:7-3 Can't @ 7-3 Zips7-3 BGSU @ 5-5 WMU7-3 UT @ 6-4 UB6-4 CMU @ 4-6 OU3-7 MU @ 3-7 EMU2-8 BSU @ 3-7 NIU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 So, I'd say its clear to say we are rooting for WMU tonight, but should we cheer for Toledo or Buffalo? That seems like a tough call to me even with UB a game back and the Zips having games left with both, but Buffalo being on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Zip Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 So, I'd say its clear to say we are rooting for WMU tonight, but should we cheer for Toledo or Buffalo? That seems like a tough call to me even with UB a game back and the Zips having games left with both, but Buffalo being on the road.That is a tough call. But at the end of the season I'd rather be battling Toledo for the 1 and 2 seed than Buffalo and Can't for the 2 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 IMO it won't matter. Buffalo is the tougher team. Toledo has more offensive talent but the chemistry is lacking some. Sometimes Juice just doesn't feel the need 0t to give it up so they can get a bit selfish. They also can get lazy on the defensive end. I would not at all be surprised to see the Bulls take them down by DDs.I'll stand my ground for now proclaiming Buffalo to be the best and most complete team in a very tight conference. Probably the best schedule of games the MAC could ever muster tonight. 3-4 really good ones on tap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 I'll reserve my final judgment about Toledo until we play them at home next week.But if Buffalo is really the best team in the MAC, and we just beat them, that would make me feel really good about our chances in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 I'll reserve my final judgment about Toledo until we play them at home next week.But if Buffalo is really the best team in the MAC, and we just beat them, that would make me feel really good about our chances in March. Call me a pessimist but I would consider it more of a case of. holding serve. I do see and agree with your POV though. No doubt, we proved that we can play with them and we are getting to be a mentally strong lot ourselves. I like that.A loss at home to the Bulls would have been a tough hurdle to overcome for the team psyche, may have had some serious lingering effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Probably best that UT beat UB as it gives the Zips a 2-game lead over the Bulls with a game at their place still left while the Zips' remaining game with UT is at the JAR. But you never know how it's going to shake out at the end of the regular season ...Zips 61, Can't 52BGSU 65, WMU 49UT 92, UB 88CMU 68, OU 57EMU 83, MU 69NIU 75, BSU 63MAC STANDINGS8-3 - UT*8-3 - Zips8-3 - BGSU7-4 - Can't7-4 - CMU6-5 - UB5-6 - WMU4-7 - OU4-7 - EMU4-7 - NIU3-8 - MU2-9 - BSU* Currently owns tie breaker for MAC tournament seedingFRIDAY MATCHUP:7-4 Can't @ 8-3 UTSATURDAY MATCHUPS:8-3 Zips @ 4-7 EMU8-3 BGSU @ 2-9 BSU7-4 CMU @ 6-5 UB4-7 OU @ 3-8 MU4-7 NIU @ 5-6 WMU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 As far as the Zips aspirations to win the MAC East go, tonight could not have gone much better, It was a pretty decent night for the west. So glad to see the Bulls get tagged at home but not so happy to see UT play to their full potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Toledo went into Buffalo and went 12-14 on 3-point attempts. That's frigging ridiculous. That's 86%. Toledo, in my mind, is the most dangerous team in the MAC. They are just built to beat the other top MAC teams. Their problem is that they struggle against bad teams (though they are usually just good enough to win). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Well, at this point, if anyone was going to be tied with us in the East, I am glad it's Bowling Green......since we've already beaten them TWICE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Well, at this point, if anyone was going to be tied with us in the East, I am glad it's Bowling Green......since we've already beaten them TWICE. After watching them against us twice, I'm truly amazed that they're 8-1 against everyone else. They didn't impress me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Highlights from last nights game all across the MAC.Current MAC standings.Jay Bilas Index: Top 68 rankings lack any Mac teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 The MAC is a top-10 conference for the first time since who knows when. http://www.rpiforecast.com/confrpi.htmlAbove the Missouri Valley, Conference USA, Mountain West, and nearly every other mid-major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 The MAC is a top-10 conference for the first time since who knows when. http://www.rpiforecast.com/confrpi.htmlAbove the Missouri Valley, Conference USA, Mountain West, and nearly every other mid-major.It's about time !!Look at how competitive the league is this year? There's more than just a few tops teams, which had been the case for years. We've all known that that others needed to get better, which would make the league better..............and hopefully..........our top teams will be viewed differently at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Amen ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Imagine if OU didn't turn into a bottom feeder. The MAC could make a run at #8 if NIU and Ball State weren't perennial 200+ RPI teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 The MAC is a top-10 conference for the first time since who knows when. http://www.rpiforecast.com/confrpi.htmlAbove the Missouri Valley, Conference USA, Mountain West, and nearly every other mid-major.Down side - how much better could the conference be? Sitting at 10 with an out of conference strength of schedule of 31 (with only 32 conferences plus independent NJIT). When people complain about out of conference scheduling (across the league) there is something to point at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 The SWAC is #3 in conference OOC SOS yet #33 and dead last in conference RPI, so all those road losses to stronger opponents did nothing for their RPI. That along with the MAC's OOC SOS of #31 and RPI of #10 only goes to show that there is RPI value in consistent winning against weaker opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 There's also RPI value in beating stronger opponents too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Comparing the MAC with the AAC is a great case study of how much value is available from beating stronger opponents.The #10 RPI MAC's OOC record is 80-50 vs. 80-49 for the #8 RPI AAC.The MAC's OOC SOS is #31 vs. #12 for the AAC.The MAC's RPI forecast is 0.5174 vs. 0.5220 for the AAC.So moving all the way up from the 31st strongest OOC SOS to the #12 strongest while maintaining the same won-lost record, which is easier said than done, doesn't really gain all that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Unless I'm missing something, you're not taking into account the teams the AAC are playing IN conference. If the MAC was 80-50 OOC with the AAC OOC schedule - while also playing quality teams after January - I'd imagine the RPI # would be a lot higher than .5220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 The SWAC is #3 in conference OOC SOS yet #33 and dead last in conference RPI,Could that simply mean that their conference foes, where they play about 2/3 of their games, suck so bad that the small number of OOC games that they play has little impact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 And we are now #80 in RPI, a jump of 12 places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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