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[bobbyake]

Bobby, if you want to bash OSU here .. your free to run Smack in the Smack Forum. If you do it there, those that wish to defend the Sucks can follow you there and debate away. It isn't happening any longer in the main sports forums.

University of Akron Zips Cowlumbus State Suckeyes Haha, I couldn't resist this.I understand why the smack forum exists, it's a temporary place for smack so that the board can save space for more serious topics. I'm an accounting major. I understand that costs go into running this site.But, if I speak against OSU, a couple posters on here treat it like I'm speaking against Jesus. I'm not happy about this area's attitude towards the Zips. OSU is stepping on our toes and of course I'm going to try to stop it.

[zen]

That's Theee Columbus State Suckeyes. Get it straignt.

[Blue & Gold]

I run into this dilema on an almost daily basis. Everyone I work with perpetually talk about the Buckeyes. It drives me crazy because I do my best to inject the Zips into conversation just to be generally ignored. So I, being a Zips fan and wanting to see this program gain local support, ALWAYS root against the Buckeyes - doesn't matter who they're playing. Right now the general attitude around the state (including, unfortunately, the Akron area as well) is that OSU is the only real university in the state of Ohio. There is OSU, and then a handful of little sister programs who's players are lucky to put their pads on correctly. This is such blatant ignorance. But it is, I feel, the general climate. Are the Zips and the Buckeyes competitors? ABSOLUTELY YES THEY ARE!!! This may sound rude, but anyone who thinks otherwise is flatly ignorant. Anytime you overhear a conversation concerning the Buckeyes as opposed to the Zips, this fact is made concrete. Anytime you see an OSU jersey being worn around the UA campus, this fact is painfully driven home. Anytime you see an OSU article on the cover of the Akron Beacon Journal, this fact is validated to 100,000 potential Zips fans. OSU and Akron are competitors for marketshare, recognition and respect - even if their athletic teams don't play on the field every year. However, right now I think I'd stop short of an either/or stance, because I'm afraid we'd lose more fans than we'd gain if we told people they either had to be for the Zips or for the Buckeyes. Maybe I'm just getting soft because I'm growing weary from continually failing to get anyone I work with excited about Zips athletics. OSU is indeed god to them and dismissing the Zips as anything but a second-class program is what they do best. Maybe we should put our foot down? I don't know? I didn't word this very well, but I'm a little too busy to go back and try to make my point of view more clearly. What do you guys think?One thing is for sure, as long as OSU COMPLETELY dominates the state, the Zips will not be viewed as anything beyond a second-rate, second-tier football program. Honestly, it could take a generation to change that general perception. Then again, we may be pleasantly surprised?! If we build a new stadium and build a Top 25 program, this community might be waiting to explode in support of the Zips. But frankly, I just don't get that vibe right now. I get the general sense that people perceive OSU as the only real college football being played in the state.

[bobbyake]

Akron plays OSU next Tuesday, something to look forward to.

[AK-Zips]

Are the Zips and the Buckeyes competitors? ABSOLUTELY YES THEY ARE!!! This may sound rude, but anyone who thinks otherwise is flatly ignorant. Anytime you overhear a conversation concerning the Buckeyes as opposed to the Zips, this fact is made concrete. Anytime you see an OSU jersey being worn around the UA campus, this fact is painfully driven home. Anytime you see an OSU article on the cover of the Akron Beacon Journal, this fact is validated to 100,000 potential Zips fans. OSU and Akron are competitors for marketshare, recognition and respect - even if their athletic teams don't play on the field every year. However, right now I think I'd stop short of an either/or stance, because I'm afraid we'd lose more fans than we'd gain if we told people they either had to be for the Zips or for the Buckeyes.

well done Blue & Gold, well done... at least someone 'gets it'!

[bobbyake]

Anthrax Scare At Can't State,Can't State football practice was delayed nearly two hourstoday after a player reported finding an unknown white powdery substanceon the practice field. Head Coach Dean Pees immediately suspendedpractice while police and federal investigators were called toinvestigate.After a complete analysis, FBI forensic experts determined that thewhite substance unknown to the players was the goal line.Practice was resumed after special agents decided the team was unlikelyto encounter the substance again.

[Buckzip]

"Rooting for OSU is like rooting for Can't State."I've said it before, and I'll say it again.For your own good, grow up......................................

[bobbyake]

cry baby. it's the same thing and you know it. They're both Akron's competitors.

[Buckzip]

Their is a difference between competitors and rivals. Can't is our rival. OSU is not.Ask one of your professors to tell you the difference. You are obviously the cry baby here. Your constant jabs and attempts at instigating are ridiculous. You only make yourself look like a fool by constantly attacking OSU, and then complaining whenever anyone fights back.In another thread you said you were 23-24. You act 14 with your constant jealous BS.By constantly putting down others that don't see things your way, you are only driving them farther apart, rather than making them see it your way.I would explain to you the difference in competition and rivals, but you wouldn't understand. You are so hung up on the anti OSU crap, that you can't understand logic.I used to love this board before band wagon jumpers like you joined. Unfortunately, this is the only board where Akron fans get to chat. I don't understand why we can't just talk Akron football, without your constant harping on another school.BTW, nobody here looks at the other school as Jesus. However, I am sure you too would get pretty upset if someone constantly put down UA.

[bobbyake]

it sounds like you are the one that's immature when you accuse me of doing something wrong when I clearly have facts to back it up..Rooting for OSU is like rooting for Can't State in many ways if you're from this community and never attended either Can't or OSU as a student. 1. It's a school in a different community.2. Has no ties to the Akron community.3. They both compete with Akron for students and athletes.4. They both compete in this market: Merchandise and popularity.5. They both compete for news coverage: ABJ, Plain Dealer, local tv news.6. They both have horrible accounting programs compared to Akron. Akron's accounting program is the harvard if the Mid-West.Those reasons up there are enough for me to say, "rooting for OSU is like rooting for Can't."You can try to tell me otherwise, but will I really care? Will it change my mind? You know the answer to that. You're just going to have to get over it. This is Akron, OH. Not Columbus.

[bobbyake]

BTW, nobody here looks at the other school as Jesus. However, I am sure you too would get pretty upset if someone constantly put down UA.

If i'm a fan of another school, say Toledo, and they talk smack about Akron on a Toledo board. I'm going to realize that it's a Toledo board and Toledo fans aren't going to root for other Ohio schools. I keep my mouth shut because I'm not there to talk about Akron, I'm there to talk about Toledo. This is an Akron board. You need to realize it's for Akron fans, Akron fans are going to talk smack about other schools in Ohio. It's something you are going to have to tolerate. There have been plenty of Akron/Can't fans on this board. If they can tolerate it, so can you.

[Buckzip]

Hey Bobby, you are wrong. But that's ok.Toledo is a conference opponent. Can't State is our rival. We play every year. I guess in your world USC is our competitor too. So is Texas, So is Florida State. Florida, Oklahoma, Arkansas, SMU, etc, etc. Why aren't you talking non-stop about them?I know this is an Akron board. I have been here longer than you have.You came on after the bowl game last season.Until you arrived, it was always an Akron board. You have made it into a bash OSU board. I have no problem with the "forget OSU part" on your sig. It's the rest that is offensive.You are basically calling me a traitor, and I don't appreciate it one bit. Not that you care.If you really believe that those people that buy OSU gear would be buying Akron gear if OSU wasn't around, you are badly mistaken. Why are we even talking accounting programs? There are hundreds of programs at each school. What does 1 single major have to do with anything, especially football?Geez, that argument alone makes you sound 14.Golly, OSU is better than Akron, because they have a real medical school. Akron doesn't. NEOUCOM is a shared school.Sounds pretty stupid, doesn't it?Your list1 It's a school in a different community. True2. Has no ties to the Akron community.-Many students, and athletes would diagree with that. Some go to other schools to get away from home, or for s specific major.3. They both compete with Akron for students and athletes. Students-yes, athletes(football)-rarely.4. They both compete in this market: Merchandise and popularity. No. Akron isn't everywhere.5. They both compete for news coverage: ABJ, Plain Dealer, local tv news. No, they are both covered. They must compete with the Browns, Cavs, and Indians too then.6. They both have horrible accounting programs compared to Akron. Akron's accounting program is the harvard if the Mid-West. (LOL)???Continue to bash away, and look like a fool. I am sure other Akron fans will agree with you. However, anyone that is objective will see just how ignorant your claims are.Like I said before, I can be objective, as I have graduated from both schools. Although my heart is more with Akron, I grew up here, and went to many more games, I can still look at it both ways. You obviously can't.I know you are looking forward to OSU losing,(which I feel may happen Saturday)When that does happen, you will try to rub it in my face, along with others. I don't understand what pleasure you get out of trying to tick others off for no reason.If you want to talk OSU smack, go to an OSU board. I am sure they would love to have you. Why you talk smack about a team that has no fans visiting this site is beyond me.You are only trying to upset other UA fans. If OSU fans came on here and starting attacking UA, I would be right there with you fighting them. However, that hasn't happened. Next year when OSU and UA play, talk as much smack as possible. For that 1 week, OSU and UA are rivals. I will be talking smack on OSU boards. Again, I am done with you. You obviously just don't get it. Go ahead and bash me now. But please, grow up.

[bobbyake]

AKRON plays OSU tomorrow. They are big rivals in soccer and compete for athletes in Ohio every year for soccer. You always refer to football when i'm never thinking football in the first place. Soccer is my favorite sport.The funniest thing about all of this is that I was going to take the whole rooting for OSU is like rooting for Can't out of my signature a couple days ago but didn't because i was busy. Now I feel like I have no choice but to keep it.

[zippyrifle32]

Hey Bobby, you are wrong. But that's ok.Toledo is a conference opponent. Can't State is our rival. We play every year. I guess in your world USC is our competitor too. So is Texas, So is Florida State. Florida, Oklahoma, Arkansas, SMU, etc, etc. Why aren't you talking non-stop about them?I know this is an Akron board. I have been here longer than you have.You came on after the bowl game last season.

ok, i'm just adding my own personal 2 cents.it is tiring to see the constant back and forth because no matter what anyone else says, no one's opinions are going to change. now, i think buckzip, you misunderstood bobby. see you can't compare florida or texas as competition like you can ohio state, because they are in a completely different region than us. they are in one sense or another competitors, but it's not the same as feeling the regional draw. while we may be a step behind osu in say football, it's not fair to use that one sport as your measuring stick. bobby, as hard as it is to admit it (whether or not it's a bunch of bull) football and basketball are what the american public like the most and osu has a more established program. i agree with you on many points including the cbj's coverage of akron sports as well as the fact that we're all d-1 and we're still looked down upon. we have a long ways to go, but maybe someday in the future things will change in that aspect.finally, i'm happy we have some people who joined our site cause now there always an active thread and people to talk with. and i'd rather read this osu back and forth than have to suffer more posts from that delusional antonio gates guy.

[Sergeant Zip]

that delusional antonio gates guy.

I totally has forgotten about him.

[ziptrumpet87]

5. They both compete for news coverage: ABJ, Plain Dealer, local tv news. No, they are both covered. They must compete with the Browns, Cavs, and Indians too then.

OK, I'll admit that the ABJ does cover UA and Can't State and that occasionally both get some mention on TV news (usually only when they are in the tournament), but I would like to see more consistency. EVERY OSU game gets mentioned. Why can't they mention EVERY UA and (I hate to say this) every Can't State game? I watched the TV news the other night after we beat NTSU and there was no mention of it on two different news stations; not even a quick "Akron beat North Texas in their home opener this evening". Before the game, I hear radio sports news and they mention the OSU game coming up this weekend, but fail to mention the local teams' games (and UA bought advertising on one of them!). All I'm asking for is a little recognition: if they are going to mention OSU, they need to also at least mention the local schools.

[Ryno aka Menace]

Whether we win or not we should be mention!!! We are a Division ! football team, if this is how we are going to be treated why not go back down to 1AA or divsion3 they aren't mentioned either! I swear this is crap!!Bobby said it best if OSU started going 4 and 8 we would have more fans coming to watch a 10-2 Akron team!!