KSU Lawsuit

[zipsoutsider]

The KSU story takes a predictable turn. In short, they say he lied about his certification.

 

https://www.ohio.com/akron/breaking-news/kent-state-university-says-coach-overseeing-workout-day-freshman-football-player-died-provided-false-information-about-certification

[Balsy]

9 hours ago, zipsoutsider said:

The KSU story takes a predictable turn. In short, they say he lied about his certification.

 

https://www.ohio.com/akron/breaking-news/kent-state-university-says-coach-overseeing-workout-day-freshman-football-player-died-provided-false-information-about-certification

 

Could this end up being a death-penalty like situation for the Golden Flashes?  $20-$30 million lawsuit...that's one year's athletic budget...

[zipsoutsider]

 

6 hours ago, Balsy said:

 

Could this end up being a death-penalty like situation for the Golden Flashes?  $20-$30 million lawsuit...that's one year's athletic budget...

I wondered the same thing. 

[skip-zip]

4 hours ago, Balsy said:

Could this end up being a death-penalty like situation for the Golden Flashes?  $20-$30 million lawsuit...that's one year's athletic budget...

 

It won't matter since they will likely just pay a settlement for a much lesser amount before it even gets to that point.  That takes care of the "legal" part, without any more detailed explanation needed.  

 

But any NCAA sanctions would hinge on what the penalty would be for Kent, if they should find that they knowingly had a trainer with a lapsed certification.   

 

[InTheZone]

6 hours ago, Balsy said:

 

Could this end up being a death-penalty like situation for the Golden Flashes?  $20-$30 million lawsuit...that's one year's athletic budget...

I'm sure the University has a nice liability policy with a high enough limit to make this go away.

[zippy5]

28 minutes ago, InTheZone said:

I'm sure the University has a nice liability policy with a high enough limit to make this go away.

Yep

[ZZZips]

2 hours ago, zippy5 said:

Yep

Don't get ahead of the story.  Most liability  insurance policies for large institutions require the policy holder to follow nationally recognized procedures for employment in certification required positions.  Not sure if the institution is covered if the employee lied or faked the certification.  If KSU failed to ask for certification or verify that they received a certification, it may not be covered by an insurance policy. This will take a few years  to unwind.   

[skip-zip]

Lotsa unanswered questions.  

 

If I wanted to speculate about any of this any further right now, the scenarios would require the longest post in the history of ZipsNation 

[zipsoutsider]

The trainer says KSU knew: http://www.ohio.com/akron/news/local/fired-ksu-football-trainer-defends-credentials-in-light-of-probe-of-players-death#.WZTq7Zq94hY.twitter

[skip-zip]

From a practical perspective, I'd say that having an unknown heart condition that caused someone's death during simple conditioning drills wouldn't have changed because one of the trainers had an active certification, or did not have one.  

 

But even legally, I don't know how you find some other person liable for that type of occurrence.  

 

Yet, I will repeat again that this probably will get nowhere near a courtroom, a few million dollar settlement will be paid to the family, and we'll never know everything.  

 

But, if it's proven that Kent State knowingly had a trainer who was uncertified, I wonder what the NCAA penalties would be for something like that?

[zipsoutsider]

15 minutes ago, skip-zip said:

From a practical perspective, I'd say that having an unknown heart condition that caused someone's death during simple conditioning drills wouldn't have changed because one of the trainers had an active certification, or did not have one.  

 

But even legally, I don't know how you find some other person liable for that type of occurrence.  

 

Yet, I will repeat again that this probably will get nowhere near a courtroom, a few million dollar settlement will be paid to the family, and we'll never know everything.  

 

But, if it's proven that Kent State knowingly had a trainer who was uncertified, I wonder what the NCAA penalties would be for something like that?

And how does it impact recruiting?

[skip-zip]

8 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said:

And how does it impact recruiting?

 

In one sense, I say that's a great question.

 

In another sense I have to ask.....what Recruiting Success does Kent State have anyway,  even without bad publicity and some possible NCAA sanctions?