Game 8—@Toledo Rockets

[Buckzip]

3 hours ago, Balsy said:

 

I mean, you should be fine, cause with global warming and all....so perhaps you're not as...competitive...as you think you are. 

Button on a fur coat....

[Dr Z]

Logan Woodside is the ninth rated QB in the country

 

PS It's a little shocking to me that Mayfield is number one, I saw nothing special when he played the Zips. He obviously improved. 

 

 

 

[CDMac]

12 hours ago, Dr Z said:

PS It's a little shocking to me that Mayfield is number one, I saw nothing special when he played the Zips. He obviously improved.

I have watched a lot of Oklahoma football this season to keep my eye on #9 so I've seen Baker Mayfield play a lot.

 

He's a freaking gamer. He's listed at 6'2" so not your prototypical NFL QB size wise but he's tough, unflappable, smart, and accurate.

 

No way he goes #1 unless he crushes the Combine and interviews.

[CDMac]

Finally have the offensive personnel grouping data compiled.

 

Here's the result.

 

 

Play	RB	TE	WR	Grouping	Motion	players
1			5	5 Wide		11,3,82,5,21
2	1	1	3	11		82,36,11,3, 9
3	1	1	3	11	11 R -> L	9, 82, 11, 3, 5(?)
4	1	1	3	11		21,82, 9, 36, 11
5	1	1	3	11		21,82, 9, 36, 11
6	2	1	2	21	22 L slot to RB	22, 21, 9, 82,45
7	1	0	4	10		82,9,3,11,5(?)
8	1	1	3	11	82 stacked behind 11 on R	82,11,36, 3, 9
9	0	0	5	5 Wide		21,11,15,3,5
10	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	7,3,17,5,36
11	1	1	3	11		7,3,36,5,17
12	1	0	4	10		7,3,17,11,5
13	2	1	3	21	22 r slot to RB	36,9,17,3,22
14	1	1	3	11		36,3,17,7,11
15	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	9,17,11,3(?), 36(?)
16	1	0	4	10		9, 11, 17, ?, ?
17	1	1	3	11		36,82,7,11,3(?)
18	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	36,82,9,11,3
19	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	21,9,36,82,?
20	0	0	5	5 Wide		5,3,15,11,21
21	1	0	4	10		9,82,21,5,11
22	1	2	2	12		82,45,3,7,36
23	1	2	2	12		82,45,3,7,36
24	1	0	4	10		82,11,3,5
25	1	2	2	12	both TE in backfield as H A	36,45,7,5, 82
26	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	7,36,82,11,?
27	1	0	4	10	11 R slot to L	82,11,3,5,7
28	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	7,82,36,11,3
29	1	1	3	11	TE Inline	36,82,? ? ?
30	1	1	3	11	TE Inline	9,82,36,11,3
31	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	9,36,82,11,3
32	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	9,36,82,11,3
33	1	2	2	12	both TE in backfield as H A	9,36,82,45,3(?)
34	1	2	2	12	both TE inline - opposite T	82,45,36,9,3(?)
35	1	0	4	10		7,82,11,3,5
36	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	82,11,9,? ?
37	1	1	3	11	TE Inline	9,82,3,11,36
38	1	0	4	10		82,9,3,5,11(?)
39	1	1	3	11	TE Inline	36,82,21,7,3
40	1	0	4	10		7,21,82,11,5
41	1	0	4	10		7,82,21,5,11
42	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	82,21,45,11,7
43	1	0	4	10		21,82,7,5,11
44	1	2	2	12	both TE inline - opposite T	36,45,7
45	2	2		wildcat	45 and 9 in backfield	45,9, 36,44
46	1	2	2	12	both TE inline - opposite T	9,82,36,3,?
47	1	2	2	12	both TE inline - opposite T	82,36,3,22,?
48	1	0	4	10		22,82,3,11,5
49	1	0	4	10		82,5,11,9,?
50	1	0	4	10		9,82,11,5,21
51	1	0	4	10		9,82,11,5,21
52	1	0	4	10		9,82,11,5,21
53	1	0	4	10		9,82,11,5,21
54	1	0	4	10		9,82,11,5,21
55	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
56	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
57	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
58	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
59	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
60	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
61	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
62	1	0	4	10		15,19,21,3,9
63	1	0	4	10		15,19,21,3,9
64	1	0	4	10		15,19,3,21,9
65	1	0	4	10		22,15,21,19,3

[CDMac]

I'll have to work on the format.

Created an HTML table but the spacing/alignment is wonky

Edited October 27, 2017 by CDMac

[Dr Z]

If u need help, pm me.

[CDMac]

We ran 10 personnel 29 times in the game (many once the outcome was decided but not all)

 

11 personnel 22 times

12 personnel 8 times

21 personnel 2 times

5 Wide 3 times

Wildcat 1 time

[CDMac]

Just now, Dr Z said:

If u need help, pm me.

I'm pretty sure I can figure it out. I was using classic HTML formatting but the output looks nothing like I was expecting (bordered table) so obviously the backend is doing something different than expected.

 

I just saw the preview icon in the toolbar so I'll play around with some tables and see what I can do for next week.

 

Warning for next week - I'm not going to be listing the players' #s that are in on each play (too time consuming)

[CDMac]

PLAY#	RB	TE	WR	GROUPIING	MOTION	PLAYERS	NOTES
1	0	0	5	5 Wide		11,3,82,5,21
2	1	1	3	11		82,36,11,3, 9
3	1	1	3	11	11 R -> L	9, 82, 11, 3, 5(?)
4	1	1	3	11		21,82, 9, 36, 11
5	1	1	3	11		21,82, 9, 36, 11
6	2	1	2	21	22 L slot to RB	22, 21, 9, 82,45
7	1	0	4	10		82,9,3,11,5(?)
8	1	1	3	11	82 stacked behind 11 on R	82,11,36, 3, 9
9	0	0	5	5 Wide		21,11,15,3,5	INT on play
10	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	7,3,17,5,36
11	1	1	3	11		7,3,36,5,17
12	1	0	4	10		7,3,17,11,5
13	2	1	3	21	22 r slot to RB	36,9,17,3,22
14	1	1	3	11		36,3,17,7,11
15	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	9,17,11,3(?), 36(?)
16	1	0	4	10		9, 11, 17, ?, ?	DPI
17	1	1	3	11		36,82,7,11,3(?)
18	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	36,82,9,11,3	Flea Flicker TD to BOOKER!!
19	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	21,9,36,82,?
20	0	0	5	5 Wide		5,3,15,11,21
21	1	0	4	10		9,82,21,5,11	Deep ball miss to #21 Bickley
22	1	2	2	12		82,45,3,7,36	Started at 6inch line after great punt
23	1	2	2	12		82,45,3,7,36
24	1	0	4	10		82,11,3,5	DPI
25	1	2	2	12	both TE in backfield as H A	36,45,7,5, 82
26	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	7,36,82,11,?
27	1	0	4	10	11 R slot to L	82,11,3,5,7
28	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	7,82,36,11,3
29	1	1	3	11	TE Inline	36,82,? ? ?
30	1	1	3	11	TE Inline	9,82,36,11,3
31	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	9,36,82,11,3
32	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	9,36,82,11,3
33	1	2	2	12	both TE in backfield as H A	9,36,82,45,3(?)	pass to #45 Junk
34	1	2	2	12	both TE inline - opposite T	82,45,36,9,3(?)
35	1	0	4	10		7,82,11,3,5	Pass to #3 Quad - incomplete at goaline
36	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	82,11,9,? ?
37	1	1	3	11	TE Inline	9,82,3,11,36
38	1	0	4	10		82,9,3,5,11(?)	3rd and 19 after sack
39	1	1	3	11	TE Inline	36,82,21,7,3
40	1	0	4	10		7,21,82,11,5	11 jet motion at snap
41	1	0	4	10		7,82,21,5,11
42	1	1	3	11	TE as H not inline	82,21,45,11,7
43	1	0	4	10		21,82,7,5,11
44	1	2	2	12	both TE inline - opposite T	36,45,7
45	2	2		wildcat	45 and 9 in backfield	45,9, 36,44	4th and 1 wildcat
46	1	2	2	12	both TE inline - opposite T	9,82,36,3,?
47	1	2	2	12	both TE inline - opposite T	82,36,3,22,?
48	1	0	4	10		22,82,3,11,5	Sands #22 Fumble
49	1	0	4	10		82,5,11,9,?
50	1	0	4	10		9,82,11,5,21
51	1	0	4	10		9,82,11,5,21
52	1	0	4	10		9,82,11,5,21
53	1	0	4	10		9,82,11,5,21
54	1	0	4	10		9,82,11,5,21	TD #5 Chapman
55	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3	#10 Kelley Takes over at QB
56	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
57	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
58	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
59	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
60	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3
61	1	0	4	10		15,19,9,5,3	#3 Quad TD
62	1	0	4	10		15,19,21,3,9
63	1	0	4	10		15,19,21,3,9
64	1	0	4	10		15,19,3,21,9
65	1	0	4	10		22,15,21,19,3	LAST PLAY

Edited October 27, 2017 by CDMac

[Dr Z]

From @CDMac hard work of information. 

 

45% of the time we were in 10 personnel (last 18 plays)

18% of the time we were in 12 personnel

17% of the time we were in 11 personnel

5% of the time we were in 00 personnel

3% of the time we were in 21 personnel

2% of the time we were in 22 personnel

 

 

Snap counts (these are approximate due to the fact you can't see every player on tv without the all 22 view)

 

82 Austin Wolf = 43 snaps

3 Kwad Smith= 43 snaps

11 AJ Coney= 38 snaps

5 Tra Chapman= 31 snaps

21 Fran Bickley= 22 snaps

15 Nate Stewart= 13 snaps

19 Andre Williams= 11 snaps

17 Anthony Young = 7 snaps

 

9 Manny Morgan= 39 snaps

7 Van Edwards= 18 snaps

22 Deltron Sands= 5 snaps

 

36 Kobie Booker= 29 snaps

45 Brandon Junk= 9 snaps

 

 

 

[zipsoutsider]

26 minutes ago, Dr Z said:

From @CDMac hard work of information. 

 

45% of the time we were in 10 personnel (last 18 plays)

18% of the time we were in 12 personnel

17% of the time we were in 11 personnel

5% of the time we were in 00 personnel

3% of the time we were in 21 personnel

2% of the time we were in 22 personnel

 

 

Snap counts (these are approximate due to the fact you can't see every player on tv without the all 22 view)

 

82 Austin Wolf = 43 snaps

3 Kwad Smith= 43 snaps

11 AJ Coney= 38 snaps

5 Tra Chapman= 31 snaps

21 Fran Bickley= 22 snaps

15 Nate Stewart= 13 snaps

19 Andre Williams= 11 snaps

17 Anthony Young = 7 snaps

 

9 Manny Morgan= 39 snaps

7 Van Edwards= 18 snaps

22 Deltron Sands= 5 snaps

 

36 Kobie Booker= 29 snaps

45 Brandon Junk= 9 snaps

 

 

 

A couple of thoughts. 

 

1.) Kobie Booker is one of the best offensive true freshmen we have seen in the Bowden era. I think if we had Williams back, Booker might be averaging more snaps because we would be utilizing the 2 TE blocking scheme, more. Junk is not in the same league as Williams and booker. Having MTB back next year will make this position an even bigger threat. 

 

2.) If we have decided to burn Andre Williams' redshirt - let's get him going. He and Stewart have the potential to be impact players. I hope they are both working really hard to learn the offense and the skills needed to be effective at the D1 level.

 

[LZIp]

Young being out for the remainder of the season should give an opportunity to someone......

 

Something else to add. Zero snaps for Gladney. Not sure if he is/was injured or not. If not, I'm glad to be seeing the rotation tightened up some.

Edited October 27, 2017 by LZIp

[Dr Z]

What if we set something like this up? Would it be easier? Someone with knowledge of excel can add the percentages and snap counts automatically.

Then we could compare week to week and notice trends and strategies. 

 

 

File can be found here if anybody with wants to do it this week. 

[LZIp]

Just now, Dr Z said:

What if we set something like this up? Would it be easier? Someone with knowledge of excel can add the percentages and snap counts automatically.

Then we could compare week to week and notice trends and strategies. 

 

 

File can be found here if anybody with wants to do it this week. 

Nice. I'm not sure how it will work opening a separate excel file like this, but I have seen people use Google Docs for similar situations. So we are going to need a separate tab for each game it looks like, then maybe a summary tab showing trends. I'm an excel nerd so I'll most likely mess around with it some. This could probably warrant its own thread/a sticky IMO.

[CDMac]

Looks good, @Dr Z

 

I'm rather handy with excel too but I'll let @LZIp play around with it some. I could do the calculations and whatnot but he may be better with pulling out the data into a chart/pivot table/etc.

 

I like the idea of a main tab plus tabs for each game.

[Zipgrad01]

On 10/24/2017 at 9:55 AM, Captain Kangaroo said:

Two star recruits can turn around a basketball program in one season.

 

Turning around an 85 student football program takes time. Especially turning around one that was the absolute worst in D-1A.

 

If Bowden would have chosen from Day 1 to recruit freshmen, redshirt them and slowly build a program, he would have been fired within 3-4 years max. You don't win with 18 and 19 year olds. And no AD in today's world waits 4 years to become competitive.

 

So Bowden chose to heavily utilize transfers in the beginning. And we became relatively competitive in a short time. And being relatively competitive allowed us to get a nice recruiting class this past February, and redshirt most of them. For the first time, we have some depth, and can let players develop.

 

This year's recruiting class, by seemingly everyone's estimation, is Bowden's best  to-date. The bulk of those kids will be redshirted, and we have the makings of a deep, year-in-year-out competitive upper-tier MAC program.

 

I see us winning 3 of our remaining 4 games. 7-5 would be a great season considering our original circumstances, and the future would look bright too. Our program is now appealing to some decent HS talent.

 

That's my view. Like it or not. 

You talk about Bowden like you talk about those cupcake wins in basketball. Nom nom nom nom... are you on his payroll? 

[Balsy]

20 hours ago, zipsoutsider said:

]

1.) Kobie Booker

 

Weren't we his only D-1 Offer too?  I only bring that up because apparently it's important.

[Blue & Gold]

1 hour ago, Balsy said:

 

Weren't we his only D-1 Offer too?  I only bring that up because apparently it's important.

^^Concerning Kobie Booker, I'm not sure if we were or not. He verballed early, so if we were his only offer that may have had something to do with it (I saw him play a few times in hs & thought he should be getting interest).  Physically, I just thought he was a beast, so I was glad when he verballed. But I really thought we'd use him at DE.  He's only 6'0" tall, so that's pretty short for a TE.  But what do I know?... seems to be working out.

Edited October 28, 2017 by Blue & Gold

[Balsy]

19 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

^^Concerning Kobie Booker, I'm not sure if we were or not. He verballed early, so if we were his only offer that may have had something to do with it (I saw him play a few times in hs & thought he should be getting interest).  Physically, I just thought he was a beast, so I was glad when he verballed. But I really thought we'd use him at DE.  He's only 6'0" tall, so that's pretty short for a TE.  But what do I know?... seems to be working out.

 

When I had him as a Freshman, I really liked him.  Good hardworking kid, which is not always the case.  I thought we would too, but if I'm not mistaken he played both TE and DE in HS and so far he's been very good at TE.

 

I only brought this up because we always have some, complainers, on here about people having "only one D-1 offer".