dre22era Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, LZIp said: Don't be a doucher. Troy won 10 games last year and will compete for the Sunbelt this year. They were also bigger favorites than ISU was over us. With that said, no excuse for losing. Just get your facts straight. I feel like sometimes people forget that we are a G5 team. Spare me the Bullsh!t. Its the same sh!t every year. We are a mediocre pathetic team with absolutely nothing to look forward to which is why our home game attendance continues to be hot garbage. Call this team what it is = GARBAGE No Growth no nothing. I am sick and tired of watching the Zips basically in the blind week by week knowing absolutely nothing in regards to how we are going to come out and play. There is absolutely no consistency with this team unless we are playing a garbage FCS school. Its time to hold everyone accountable instead of contining to give this team from the top down a pass. The only thing spectacular about Akron Football is @ZipsEquipment And until the masses stop sugar coding this BS NOTHING will change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Who was a 17 point favorite, playing at home. We played a crappy, self-destructive football game today. But our opponent was not the slouch you seem to believe that they are. And this is exactly what I am talking about in regards to using a Spread and our conference to defend our pathetic play. Its like many of you are content with being losers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, dre22era said: Spare me the Bullsh!t. Its the same sh!t every year. We are a mediocre pathetic team with absolutely nothing to look forward to which is why our home game attendance continues to be hot garbage. Call this team what it is = GARBAGE No Growth no nothing. I am sick and tired of watching the Zips basically in the blind week by week knowing absolutely nothing in regards to how we are going to come out and play. There is absolutely no consistency with this team unless we are playing a garbage FCS school. Its time to hold everyone accountable instead of contining to give this team from the top down a pass. The only thing spectacular about Akron Football is @ZipsEquipment And until the masses stop sugar coding this BS NOTHING will change. I don't believe I'm giving anyone a pass. I'm not making any excuses. Just know your facts and stop acting like Troy is a Kent State caliber program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, LZIp said: I don't believe I'm giving anyone a pass. I'm not making any excuses. Just know your facts and stop acting like Troy is a Kent State caliber program. Stop acting like Troy is a worthy enough program to lose to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, dre22era said: Stop acting like Troy is a worthy enough program to lose to Go to bed. You're embarrassing yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, LZIp said: Go to bed. You're embarrassing yourself. Lol at me embarrassing myself. Says the guy defending a dumpster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, dre22era said: Stop acting like Troy is a worthy enough program to lose to Once again, we were a 17 point underdog on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Once again, we were a 17 point underdog on the road. I could give 2 shits about the spread. "YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME" Using the spread to defend mediocre play is loser talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 1 hour ago, skip-zip said: Once again, we were a 17 point underdog on the road. You are fighting a losing fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 What does the captain think....? I think we will have to wait a week to find out but I bet it makes coach look good. I am sure the zips are right where you expected them to be on their way to 9 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Zipgrad01 said: What does the captain think....? I think we will have to wait a week to find out but I bet it makes coach look good. I am sure the zips are right where you expected them to be on their way to 9 wins. Run the table in the MAC with Toledo on the schedule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Toledo, western and OU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 LZ and Skip, You can spout whatever you want about Troy's record last year, or the point spread, or that they were playing at home or whatever excuse you want to use to somehow make it seem like this isn't a bad loss. However. . . Is your eyesight ok? Did Troy look like a good team in any way, shape or form? If that is a team that makes a bowl game it will be because they play shittier competition than can be imagined. They were just as inept as the Zips. Terrible discipline. Terrible execution. They had a nice running back. I'll give you that. If I was the Troy OC, that guy would have run the ball 20 more times and won the game by 3 scores. Akron played a horrendously lackluster game and almost and should have gotten the road W. Time will tell and I certainly could be wrong, but for me, as of now, that's a terrible loss. Any game that is winnable with any remote semblance of basic football competence that winds up being a loss is a bad loss. Any excuses made are empty, delusional exercises in turd polishing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Troy did a great job of getting pressure through the A gap. I don't understand the Zips not being able to handle this. This has to be addressed this week in practice. Any defense that watches this film will continue this trend. Difference in the game IMO. For as subpar as the interior of the O-line played the Zips did have a 100 yard receiver, 100 yard rusher, and a 250+ passer putting up 367 yards of total offense. It wasn't pretty, and I'm sure they have yet to play their best. At the very least, that is something to build on in practice. Getting to the QB is still a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 8 hours ago, dre22era said: Stop acting like Troy is a worthy enough program to lose to Put it this way.... people I work with k ow so much about Troy they thought they were from Michigan and they were surprised as hell that they had a football team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 42 minutes ago, Dr Z said: Getting to the QB is still a concern. I commented after the UAPB game that it appeared like they were blocking our our pass rush WAY too adequately for having a smaller and less talented football team. We're going to have to do something to get to some QBs down the road. 6 hours ago, Zipgrad01 said: I am sure the zips are right where you expected them to be on their way to 9 wins. Go back and look at my posts. I didn't see this team getting past .500, and downgraded that to "maybe not even 4 wins". But again, none of that changes the fact that we played pretty self-destructive football last night, and still nearly won as a 17 point underdog on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Zipgrad01 said: Put it this way.... people I work with k ow so much about Troy they thought they were from Michigan and they were surprised as hell that they had a football team. Even though your friends might be geographically challenged, they obviously know nothing about recent Sun Belt football. Troy won 10 games last year, beat Southern Miss on the road, and lost 30-24 to Clemson (The National Champ who absolutely pounded OSWho, if you need to be reminded). http://sunbeltsports.org/standings.aspx?standings=28 But please, continue with your tirade that losing to Troy is a loss to a garbage football program. There's a reason why they were so heavily favored against us. You might want to to a little research before posting next time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, skip-zip said: I commented after the UAPB game that it appeared like they were blocking our our pass rush WAY too adequately for having a smaller and less talented football team. We're going to have to do something to get to some QBs down the road. Go back and look at my posts. I didn't see this team getting past .500, and downgraded that to "maybe not even 4 wins". But again, none of that changes the fact that we played pretty self-destructive football last night, and still nearly won as a 17 point underdog on the road. I'm not disagreeing with you. That game is a would-uh, could-uh, should-uh if I ever saw one. It still pisses me off that we blew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Even though your friends might be geographically challenged, they obviously know nothing about recent Sun Belt football. Troy won 10 games last year, beat Southern Miss on the road, and lost 30-24 to Clemson (The National Champ who absolutely pounded OSWho, if you need to be reminded). http://sunbeltsports.org/standings.aspx?standings=28 But please, continue with your tirade that losing to Troy is a loss to a garbage football program. There's a reason why they were so heavily favored against us. You might want to to a little research before posting next time. I know who troy is. The general public for the most part doesn't. Either way... Troy wasn't that good of a football team. They play just as crappy of a schedule as we do and pile up the wins. Edited September 24, 2017 by Zipgrad01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, K92 said: They were just as inept as the Zips. Terrible discipline. Terrible execution. I agree. And before we sucked it up and started competing, they were on the verge of blowing us out with their #2 and #3 QB's taking all of the snaps last night. On the discipline topic, you could definitely tell that Troy got rattled and frustrated about the way the 2nd half was going for them when we were mounting a comeback. 34 minutes ago, Zipgrad01 said: It still pisses me off that we blew it. Yes, at the end we blew a chance to win the game. I'm just as pissed about that as you are. Edited September 24, 2017 by skip-zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA1987 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Yep it was a loss and I too feel low, but It was a good game to watch. This was Ball's best game so far (Pine Bluff doesn't count). Surprised to see the wildcat formation - and it worked for a score. We missed our starting safeties, but Alvin (the mighty chipmunk) seemed to make a difference in the second half till the last drive. Time should be running out on anyone dropping passes. Play the freshman if this continues. Edited September 24, 2017 by UA1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigZip Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 The Zips played a pathetic first half, but didn't look to bad in the second half. You can't go into the red zone all the time and come away with 3 or no points. To me, Austin Wolf is their best receiver when he's in there, but I don't know if he's 100% health wise. K Smith has also improved a lot from last year. The Zips defensive line has a inept pass rush and is less than average against the run. They're are definitely not going to reach 6 wins this year. I don't even know when or if they will win against an FBS school. I think it might be time to start looking at some strong DII head coaches to come in and shake things up. The current staff does not seem to be getting any better and there doesn't seem to be any indication that they will. I have watched better play calling in my 8yr olds football games. I don't think any Zips fans have any expectations or confidence in the current staff. They're just not getting any better. It's time to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Wait a second. Troy beat Southern Miss last year? Well that changes everything! Southern Miss? The mighty 7-6 Southern Miss?!?!? You can't be serious. And as far as using a close loss to a good team as any kind of a yardstick to measure a team's quality is absolute folly. It means less than jack $hit. I watched a terrible Akron Zips ball club piddle fart for 4 hours to lose to an equally inept Troy squad. Spin it however you want. That was bad football. If you can somehow pull any type of value out of last night's debacle, I wonder if you could enjoy watching 4 hours worth of Or Or And then get on here and tell me why I was wrong for thinking I watched a TW, DF, GF. Edited September 24, 2017 by K92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, K92 said: Wait a second. Troy beat Southern Miss last year? Well that changes everything! Southern Miss? The mighty 7-6 Southern Miss?!?!? You can't be serious. And as far as using a close loss to a good team as any kind of a yardstick to measure a team's quality is absolute folly. It means less than jack $hit. I watched a terrible Akron Zips ball club piddle fart for 4 hours to lose to an equally inept Troy squad. Spin it however you want. That was bad football. If you can somehow pull any type of value out of last night's debacle, I wonder if you could enjoy watching 4 hours worth of Or Or And then get on here and tell me why I was wrong for thinking I watched a TW, DF, GF. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Serious question ZG01 and Keener - will there ever be a loss where you don't think the world is on fire? Not that I think last night was a "good" loss. So spare me with the excuse bullshit because I am not making any. Get blown out by NFP contender? World is on fire. Lose to ISU? World is on fire. Lose to Michigan closely? They weren't that good. Lose to Troy closely? They weren't that good. Is any team that we play closely and lose to going to automatically be assumed to be "not that good" simply due to the fact that we played them close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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