Ohio BobCats

[zipfan 81]

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[RowdyZip]

"nick dials shot them out of yet another game" I couldnt agree more1/7 (0/5 3pt), not to mention the turnover to end the game. BLECH.

[zipfan 81]

Why does Dambrot continually stick with him, is it because he recruited him, then Dials went to Ohio State, then Dambrot got him back and thinks because he came from Ohio State, he can do no wrong or what?

[basketballman31]

Bubba saw the truth and everyone always thought he was wrong about it. He always sticks with Dials no matter what, he cost you the toledo game last year, now a chance to get some exposure on espn2. Good Luck against gardner webb

[Captain Kangaroo]

Bubba saw the truth and everyone always thought he was wrong about it. He always sticks with Dials no matter what, he cost you the toledo game last year, now a chance to get some exposure on espn2. Good Luck against gardner webb

Three things OU fans will love about Bubba:His defense:His attitude:And his fondness for classwork:Have fun with him.

[Zip90]

So Dials lost the game for the zips?Well, lets look at some stats:Team 3-pt shooting: 4 for 14Team Rebounds: 36 to 24 (UALR wins) ** Dials was the LEADING rebounder with 7 (hmmm where are the big men??)Dials LED the team in assists (hmmm why do they stick with him??) ** could've had about 3 more if the big guys could make a dunk or two when they get his passes.Team FT's:23 of 33 (Middleton 1 of 4 - WONDER WHY HE WASN'T HANDLING THE BALL AT THE END OF THE GAME!!!!!!!) Dials 5 of 5.** I guess Dials should have somehow made the team make the 10 freethrows that were missed? If they would've made them, we would've won by 8 points.Linhart had a technical called on him for yelling at the ref (along with the personal foul he was originally called for), and this cost the team 4 points when the game was tied. (Should Dials have kept Nate from yelling at the ref ??)Wood missed a box out after two FT misses by UALR, then UALR got it back and got fouled again, then made both free throws (was Dials supposed to block out Wood's man??)It's hard for me to understand why anyone, who knows anything about basketball, would blame the loss on one player instead of the team. Based on the crap that has been posted on this site by the bandwagon gang, however, I guess I see the problem. This was the FIRST game of the season. Support the team and quit trying to tear it apart, person by person.OH YEAH, and about the Toledo game, how many turnovers did Dru and Ced have down the stretch? Was Dials supposed to keep them from making the turnovers too? The team lost the game, not just one person.

[w00t]

Gonna have to agree with zip90 on this one. When you lose by two points, you can pin the loss on every single missed shot. And who really thinks we'd be better off with Walther than Dials in the backcourt (even ignoring the fact that he's locker room cancer)?

[RACER]

we lost because we got our butss kicked on the boards. no reason for a team to get a rebounds off foul shots,but u alr did.

[ZipAlumn]

we lost because we got our butss kicked on the boards. no reason for a team to get a rebounds off foul shots,but u alr did.

I have to agree that rebounding (or lack of) was probably the main reason. And yes,the loss was a team loss just like tonight's win against Gardner-Webb was a team victory. The entire team played much better tonight or was it that Gardner-Webb is a much weaker team the Arkansas-Little Rock. It is almost imposible to tell by just listening to the radio.

[Zip90]

Lets try to support our TEAM. We cant win them all, and I know expectations are high for our zips this year. Are season is far from over after one game. The whole team played poorly and I can't think of one of our guys that had an awsome game. We can still do alot of damage this year and make the ncaa torneys. But we obviously need to work and improve on alot of areas. We have the talent we just need to put it together.

[Captain Kangaroo]

So Dials lost the game for the zips?Well, lets look at some stats:Team 3-pt shooting: 4 for 14Team Rebounds:  36 to 24 (UALR wins)  ** Dials was the LEADING rebounder with 7 (hmmm where are the big men??)Dials LED the team in assists (hmmm why do they stick with him??)  ** could've had about 3 more if the big guys could make a dunk or two when they       get his passes.Team FT's:23 of 33 (Middleton 1 of 4 - WONDER WHY HE WASN'T HANDLING THE BALL AT THE END OF THE GAME!!!!!!!)  Dials 5 of 5.** I guess Dials should have somehow made the team make the 10 freethrows that were missed?  If they would've made them, we would've won by 8 points.Linhart had a technical called on him for yelling at the ref (along with the personal foul he was originally called for), and this cost the team 4 points when the game was tied. (Should Dials have kept Nate from yelling at the ref ??)Wood missed a box out after two FT misses by UALR, then UALR got it back and got fouled again, then made both free throws (was Dials supposed to block out Wood's man??)It's hard for me to understand why anyone, who knows anything about basketball, would blame the loss on one player instead of the team.  Based on the crap that has been posted on this site by the bandwagon gang, however, I guess I see the problem.  This was the FIRST game of the season.  Support the team and quit trying to tear it apart, person by person.OH YEAH, and about the Toledo game, how many turnovers did Dru and Ced have down the stretch?  Was Dials supposed to keep them from making the turnovers too?  The team lost the game, not just one person.

Since my post ripping on Bubba got hijacked I will offer the following in support of the anti-Nick Dials sentiment:The 5 most important games the Zips have played w/Nick Dials at shooting guard are as follows:Clemson (Puerto Rican Championship): Dials was 1-7 from the field, 0-5 from 3-point landK.e.n.t #1: Dials was 1-7 from the field, 0-4 from 3-point landK.e.n.t #2: Dials was 1-6 from the field, 1-4 from 3-point landToledo (tourney semi's): Dials was 1-6 from the field, 0-5 from 3-point landUALR (2006): Dials was 1-7 from the field, 0-5 from 3-point landAdd that up, and our starting "shooting guard" was 5-33 from the field and a sparkling 1 out of freaking 23 from 3-point land in the most critical games of last season through the beginning of 2006-7. Forgive the Zips' fans if they grow a bit skeptical of Dials' offensive capabilities. Yeah, it is great he goes 7-8 in free throws. That's easy to do when no one's guarding him. If he has a hand in his face, in a big game, he's got some work to do to overcome his proven track record.At this time, give me Ced in the clutch. No ref blows his whistle in the last 5 seconds of a game anyhow, and that's the only way Dials has proven he can reliably score...from the free throw line. Ced can create a shot and drain it.Against Sisters of the Poor...or in a game where we're getting drilled...I'll take Dials. In those situations, he's "money."Prove me wrong, Nick.

[Zip90]

Hmmm, of course, pick his worst games, and his stats look that bad.He was second on the team in scoring (on a bad leg). Second leading assist man on the team. Led the team in steals.He had 17 points against Temple in the first NCAA post season win ever for AU.etc, etc, etc.If you look at only the bad, then you will see only the bad.I think he'll prove you wrong this season.Oh, and if it is so easy to make free throws with no-one guarding you, then why are the other players missing so many? It cuts both ways.

[zippyrifle32]

i would put the bracket buster up there and temple as some of the most important games last year. i don't have his stats, but i wouldn't go as far as saying he's shit, cause he's not.

[RootforRoo44]

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i cant even read that website...all that ugly green...ehh

[Captain Kangaroo]

Hmmm, of course, pick his worst games, and his stats look that bad.

My criteria was simple: The 5 most important games Nick has played in since he's been at Akron. Clemson was a championship game. K.e.n.t games are always the most important of any season. Toledo was the single most important game of 2005-6. UALR was a chance for the Zips to break out on national TV...to play Texas Tech and Bobby Knight...to get national respect. It was a HUGE game.Nick's numbers in those games are terrible. 1-23 from 3-point territory for a guy that shoots 37% from that range overall? I'm not saying he "is shit" as some so eloquently put it. I am saying our starting shooting guard needs to perform better in big games. Shooting 4% ain't gonna cut it.I like Nick. I like any player who tells OSU "Go to hell, I want to be a Zip." I hope he turns things around this year. He is key to our success this season. But, if he goes 1-8 against K.e.n.t and is 0-6 in 3-pointers, it will likely be mentioned in my post-game summary. That's how it goes...

[RowdyZip]

I love the guy, but like most primarily perimeter shooters he can be either on or OFF. And it just seems like during the big games especially, he is firmly entrenched in that OFF position. Wish him the best and lets hope that loss knocked the rust off the whole team.

[hoopla]

I will never figure out what you guys are looking at. Basketball is not a numbers game and that is your only 'proof'. You want numbers to determine play, switch to the baseball forum. Where is the Cal game where he had 15 and 1 missed shot? at Cal. where is the Louisville game with i believe 12 or more with 2 missed attempts? those werent bigger games than clemson? give me a break. maybe look that the game and answer me this... he should stop playing D, like romeo, wood, linhart, and others (god knows bubba) and just worry about 3 or 4 missed shots a game. so he is missing about 10 pts a game while those guys are giving up or did give up when they were here 20+ points. he takes care of the ball and knows how to play. when you take only 7 shots after 2 games and still ave. 7, thats pretty good. for those of you that only care about numbers. and for those who blame the game on him are you out of your mind. i heard at least 3 or 4 passes he made that were for dunks, not layups, and were missed. dials is the best all around player we have. or ever had. give him more shots and call a play for him one time in the midst of the game. everything is obviously ran for everyone else. and with are best shooter on the floor, quote that, you dont run anything for him. that is insane. 3 or 4 shots a game is nearly impossible to get in to any kind of rythem.

[hoopla]

oh and forgot to mention with those games last year... those were fresh off of an injury. an acl he came back from in 3 months. no conditioning or preseason workouts. most guys couldnt put up any kind of numbers (for those who only care for the numbers) with a sprained ankle or a stoved finger.

[basketballman31]

Yes he is your best shooter other than goddard but for those who play yes he is. His defense great? look at the numbers since you know them all too and look at who leads the other team in scoring? You will find that it is the shooting guard most of the time. You mistake his great effort with great defense. He plays with great effort but little defense

[hoopla]

hahaha. no i believe he guarded the 2 man in the gardner webb game. and that was their best player that nearly beat tech on his own and dials shut him down. scored nothing on him. zip. natta. scored on ced twice at least. look at those numbers. and he was guarding the 3 man the whole first game vs ualr. and they scored close to nothing combined. i believe i heard Frenchy say that there 3 man had something likd 17 pts. the game before. and the guards lighting us up vs ualr were all on ced pretty much. and dru. so thanks for pointing out he plays with great effort night in and night out. but the facts say and show that he is a great defender. does not matter if he guards the 1 2 or 3 man.basketballman31 - just so you can say you know a little bit about hoops, the 1 man doesnt always guard the other 1 man. and that goes on down the line. notice that romeo guards their worst big man night in and night out. not always the 4 man.

[Buckzip]

Am I the opnly one here that thinks if we had someone better, he would be playing?I hope KD isn't like JD who plays his favorites over who should play.

[Captain Kangaroo]

dials is the best all around player we have. or ever had.

Glad to see Nick's mom checking in!

[hoopla]

ok. you name one better since we became D1. there are a lot of either ors, but none that plays both sides. i think KD needs to give him a chance to play more offense. just to get him comfortible. it does not take a degree to see who he runs everything for. Without KD play calling, there are some that doesnt score double figures. and none of that goes through dials.