NYC ZIP Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 8 minutes ago, Reslife4Life said: One thing I don't understand, 3 years ago we played Santa Clara in the first round. How did that work out with proximity of opponents? Fair question. I looked back at the 2021 bracket and that Akron game was the only outlier to the proximity scheduling in round 1. I guess they just ran out of teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 15 Author Report Share Posted November 15 After a few hours sleep.....let's try to look at RPI in terms of last team in (If the committed goes completely by RPI).... obviously, lots of unknowns...and the RPI positions will change for UC Santa Barbara, High Point, St. Louis and Kansas City ...the teams still playing #28 Charlotte would drop into the 30's if they lose (FIU would steal a bid by winning that league) #26 Vermont would drop into the 30's if they lose (Bryant would steal a bid by winning that league) Would Charlotte and Vermont RPI's drop below Akron if they lose ? I have no idea 😧 I said last night that the last team...was currently #40...which is George Mason let's look at 30 thru 40 #30 Western Michigan - regular season over #31 Fordham - regular season over #32 NC State - regular season over #33 UCLA - Regular season over #34 Akron - Regular season over #35 UNC Greensboro - Regular season over #36 UC Santa Barbara - will play UC Davis for Big West automatic Bid #37 St. Louis - Will play #7 Dayton for Atlantic 10 automatic bid #38 Kansas City - will play #2 Denver for Summit league bid #39 High Point - will play Gardner Webb for Big South Title #40 George Mason I will say that UC Santa Barbara and High Point...both win their automatic spots their RPI will probably jump a little...will they jump over #34 Akron? Not relevant for Akron's at large bid if they both lose, they will probably drop out of top 40...and not be a challenge to Akron for at large bid St. Louis and Kansas City if they both lose to top 10 teams, they will probably see a slight drop in RPI....and will be much less of a threat to Akron's at large bid if they both win, Dayton and Denver get at large bids..and the cut line drops to 38 both teams will jump over Akron in RPI..and Akron drops from 34 to 36. what are currently the last teams in...if RPI is exactly followed (again, zips strong end of season should make them favorable to RPI position (in my biased opinion 😎) last team in.....George Mason at #40 2nd to last team in - #38 Kansas City (if they lose league final) 3rd to last team in - #37 St. Louis (if they lose to Dayton) 4th - #35 UNC-G 5th to last team in - #34 Akron A georgetown win over Providence in league final and Ohio State win over Michigan (UCLA tied Michigan in Big Ten semis)...might help Akron jump UCLA in actual RPI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips1991 Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 As of 7:30 PM on Friday, we have moved up to #33 (not sure who we passed). We also got a good result with Penn beating Brown. If Cornell beats Princeton later tonight, that will prevent a "stolen" automatic bid and ensure that the Ivy League only gets two bids instead of three. Big West title game is 10 PM tonight and we'll want UCSB to win to keep the Big West as a one bid league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 16 Author Report Share Posted November 16 Ivy League semifinals today rankings shown as of midnight...thursday night #6 Penn defeated #79 Brown 2-1 on golden goal in 94th minute ranking changes after match Penn moves to #5... Georgetown drops from #5 to 6 at midnight last night...all of the games were done UCLA was #33 and Akron was #34 after the Penn vs. brown game was completed, the RPI rank for UCLA and Akron changed.....(to Akron's benefit) UCLA and Brown....had common opponents.... Akron RPI improved from #34 to #33 UCLA RPI dropped from #33 to #37 the 2nd IVY league semi just finished.... the result was not helpful for Akron #20 Cornell jumped out to a 2-0 lead against #44 Princeton #44 Princeton stormed back....and just won 3-2 on a golden goal at 103:41 Princeton will play Penn on Sunday for Ivy League title Cornell will still get into tournament despite losing tonight Penn will still get into the tournament...even if they don't win on Sunday With Princeton at 44...I thought that they would have to win the IVY league tournament to steal a bid.... RPI just updated....after Princeton win Cornell dropped to #23 in RPI after the loss Princeton jumped all the way from #44 to #32...with the win over high RPI team Princeton win...caused Fordham and Western Michigan...to switch places. Fordham is now 30 and Western Michigan dropped to 31 NC State dropped from 32 to 33 Akron dropped from 33 to 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips1991 Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 4 minutes ago, TennZip said: Ivy League semifinals today rankings shown as of midnight...thursday night #6 Penn defeated #79 Brown 2-1 on golden goal in 94th minute ranking changes after match Penn moves to #5... Georgetown drops from #5 to 6 at midnight last night...all of the games were done UCLA was #33 and Akron was #34 after the Penn vs. brown game was completed, the RPI rank for UCLA and Akron changed.....(to Akron's benefit) UCLA and Brown....had common opponents.... Akron RPI improved from #34 to #33 UCLA RPI dropped from #33 to #37 the 2nd IVY league semi just finished.... the result was not helpful for Akron #20 Cornell jumped out to a 2-0 lead against #44 Princeton #44 Princeton stormed back....and just won 3-2 on a golden goal at 103:41 Princeton will play Penn on Sunday for Ivy League title Cornell will still get into tournament despite losing tonight Penn will still get into the tournament...even if they don't win on Sunday With Princeton at 44...I thought that they would have to win the IVY league tournament to steal a bid.... RPI just updated....after Princeton win Cornell dropped to #23 in RPI after the loss Princeton jumped all the way from #44 to #32...with the win over high RPI team Princeton win...caused Fordham and Western Michigan...to switch places. Fordham is now 30 and Western Michigan dropped to 31 NC State dropped from 32 to 33 Akron dropped from 33 to 34 Princeton may now be in even if they lose the title game. But, with a loss, they would likely fall back behind Akron? I'm thinking they'd fall to about 35-37 with a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 16 Author Report Share Posted November 16 Big West final.... at midnight last night, the rankings were #36 UC Santa barbara vs #69 UC Davis on Friday UC Davis won 2-0.... UC Davis gets the league automatic bid...and moves up to #52 UC Santa Barbara drops down to #40...... Akron at #34....will get an at large bid......much more easily than UC Santa Barbara at #40 these are the 2 finals....to really watch on Saturday Summit League Saturday final #2 Denver vs. #38 Kansas City Coastal Athletic Saturday final #4 Hofstra vs. #76 UNCW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips1991 Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 Two very important games to watch today as TennZip said. If both go the right way for us (Denver and Hofstra wins), the Zips will be close to guaranteed a spot, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC ZIP Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 (edited) A couple other potential Zip helpers today: San Diego (21) over LMU (125) Oregon St (20) over Portland (88) And then Dayton, Vermont and Penn tomorrow Edited November 16 by NYC ZIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 16 Author Report Share Posted November 16 25 minutes ago, NYC ZIP said: A couple other potential Zip helpers today: San Diego (21) over LMU (125) Oregon St (20) over Portland (88) And then Dayton, Vermont and Penn tomorrow good comments...I am also rooting for #28 Charlotte to knock off #62 FIU tomorrow a Georgetown win tomorrow also would not hurt. I will be watching on FS2. NCAA.com scoreboard says that the Denver game starts at 5 eastern today...and that Hofstra starts at 7 eastern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips1991 Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 1 hour ago, NYC ZIP said: A couple other potential Zip helpers today: San Diego (21) over LMU (125) Oregon St (20) over Portland (88) And then Dayton, Vermont and Penn tomorrow What is the importance of the San Diego and Oregon State games? Those are not conference tournament games, as the WCC doesn't have a conference tourney from what I see at a quick glance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC ZIP Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 12 minutes ago, Zips1991 said: What is the importance of the San Diego and Oregon State games? Those are not conference tournament games, as the WCC doesn't have a conference tourney from what I see at a quick glance. Any losses by teams above the Zips to teams with high rpi could bump them into the thirties and could muddy up those last 5-8 at large bids. I’m not an expert in this but my best guess is anyone above the Zips can just stay there and no one moves up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC ZIP Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 Robert Morris beats Oakland 1-0 in Horizon Championship. No changes in RPI but is a potential proximity game for Zips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 16 Author Report Share Posted November 16 If the Zips get in, the Committee will probably rank them.....in the 33 to 36 range..... which means that Akron will be on the road as they are not in the top 32 could possibly play on the road at a team ranked between 29 to 32 If Ohio State knocks off Michigan in Big Ten title, Michigan could drop from current ranking of 27.... Zips might get sent to play Michigan.......with the winner of that game....having to play on Sunday at #3 RPI Pittsburgh The NCAA always likes to match up rivals that no longer play each other. Zips could be sent to play at Western Michigan.....with the winner of that game....then having to play Sunday at #1 RPI Ohio State At this point, we all just want the Zips to get in. If they get in, it is going to be a brutally tough draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC ZIP Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 5 minutes ago, TennZip said: If the Zips get in, the Committee will probably rank them.....in the 33 to 36 range..... which means that Akron will be on the road as they are not in the top 32 could possibly play on the road at a team ranked between 29 to 32 If Ohio State knocks off Michigan in Big Ten title, Michigan could drop from current ranking of 27.... Zips might get sent to play Michigan.......with the winner of that game....having to play on Sunday at #3 RPI Pittsburgh The NCAA always likes to match up rivals that no longer play each other. Zips could be sent to play at Western Michigan.....with the winner of that game....then having to play Sunday at #1 RPI Ohio State At this point, we all just want the Zips to get in. If they get in, it is going to be a brutally tough draw. No doubt. Just get in and go to work. And I’m with you, it’s likely the Pitt or Ohio State second round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC ZIP Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 (edited) UMKC scores at 89:47 to beat Denver and jumps to 25 rpi. Zips move to 35 rpi. Edited November 16 by NYC ZIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 16 Author Report Share Posted November 16 18 minutes ago, NYC ZIP said: UMKC scores at 89:47 to beat Denver and jumps to 25 rpi. Zips move to 35 rpi. well, that is not a good way to start the weekend of key games Kansas city is showing as #21 RPI (at 6:30) Denver only drops from 2 to 3 As NYCZIP mentioned, Akron dropped from 34 to 35 UCLA drops from 37 to 39....as one of their impressive results was 0-0 against Denver Gaucho Dan currently shows Cal Santa Barbara (40 ) as last team out UCLA (39) as last team in St. Louis (37) as 2nd to last team in...St. Louis will knock the zips a spot down if St. Louis beats Dayton tomorrow UNC-Greensboro (36) - 3rd to last Akron (35) is 4th to last NC State at 34 Princeton at 33....if they beat Penn tomorrow...more bad news for zips Western Michigan at 32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 17 Author Report Share Posted November 17 (edited) #68 Gardner Webb just defeated High Point (they were at #38 when game was going on) 2-1 Gardner Webb gets the automatic bid for the big South and jumps from #68 to #48 in RPI High Point drops from #38 to #40....and currently is on the wrong side of the cut line Cal Santa Barbara moves to 39 Bucknell beat Colgate 3-0 to get Patriot League bid. Nothing is going easy for the Zips in key games - #4 Hofstra...is tied 0-0 at 60 minutes with UNCW (currently #75) Edited November 17 by TennZip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips1991 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 Not sure what caused it but looks like Akron has jumped back ahead of NC State, moving from #35 to #34. Really need Hofstra to hold on to this 1-0 lead here though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC ZIP Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 3 minutes ago, Zips1991 said: Not sure what caused it but looks like Akron has jumped back ahead of NC State, moving from #35 to #34. Really need Hofstra to hold on to this 1-0 lead here though. NC State has a loss to High Point who lost their conference championship game tonight. The RPI stuff across everyone’s schedule is dizzying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malonepioneer12 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 Hofstra won…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 17 Author Report Share Posted November 17 3 minutes ago, malonepioneer12 said: Hofstra won…. they dominated game.... but it was a huge fluke goal own goal at 80 minutes.... UNCW center back tried to head it back to GK GK was further away from goal than the CB thought and the headed back ball went over the GK's head for a goal Great result for the zips.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips1991 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 The way I'm looking at it, according strictly to RPI and nothing else, we're four spots ahead of the cut line with 3-4 potential "steals" left. Tomorrow, we'll want: Dayton over Saint Louis Vermont over Bryant Charlotte over FIU Penn over Princeton (If Princeton lose, we'd also likely jump them in the RPI and be 5 spots ahead of the cut line.) So things are looking good, but for some extra comfort, we could use the games above going the right way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 17 Author Report Share Posted November 17 (edited) You never know what the NCAA committee is going to do......... As NYCZIP pointed out, AKron, NC State, UCLA, Western Michigan can all be impacted by teams on their schedule....still playing UCLA lost to Michigan on PK's in semis....so UCLA might get a bump tomorrow if Michigan upsets Ohio State Akron could get a bump if Georgetown wins Western Michigan has a win over Vermont...so they might see a bump with a Vermont win UNCG has ties with Charlotte and West Virginia...so they would probably benefit from those 2 teams winning According to NCAA.com.....below are the games schedule for tomorrow Michigan vs. Ohio State 3 pm Big Ten Network Wake Forest vs. Clemson noon ESPNU St. Louis vs. Dayton noon....... Long Island U. vs. Fairleigh Dickinson noon FIU vs. Charlotte 1 pm Georgetown vs. Providence noon - fox sports 2 Rider vs. Iona 1 pm Princeton vs. Penn 1 pm Bryant vs. Vermont 1 pm Marshall vs. West Virginia 1 pm Furman vs. ETSU 2 pm Edited November 17 by TennZip 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC ZIP Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 (edited) Portland beats Oregon State. Oregon State goes from 21 to 30. Zips hold solid at 34. St Louis, who has a win over Portland, goes to 35. UCSB, who also has a win over Portland goes to 38. 2 hours ago, TennZip said: You never know what the NCAA committee is going to do......... As NYCZIP pointed out, AKron, NC State, UCLA, Western Michigan can all be impacted by teams on their schedule....still playing UCLA lost to Michigan on PK's in semis....so UCLA might get a bump tomorrow if Michigan upsets Ohio State Akron could get a bump if Georgetown wins Western Michigan has a win over Vermont...so they might see a bump with a Vermont win UNCG has ties with Charlotte and West Virginia...so they would probably benefit from those 2 teams winning According to NCAA.com.....below are the games schedule for tomorrow Michigan vs. Ohio State 3 pm Big Ten Network Wake Forest vs. Clemson noon ESPNU St. Louis vs. Dayton noon....... Long Island U. vs. Fairleigh Dickinson noon FIU vs. Charlotte 1 pm Georgetown vs. Providence noon - fox sports 2 Rider vs. Iona 1 pm Princeton vs. Penn 1 pm Bryant vs. Vermont 1 pm Marshall vs. West Virginia 1 pm Furman vs. ETSU 2 pm Edited November 17 by NYC ZIP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 Watching Big East title game on Fox Sports 2. Georgetown leads 1-0 nearing halftime. Announcers talking a lot about the Zips, including that they subbed very little in first half vs Hoyas and tired late in that game. GU keeper Manske made a great stop to preserve their lead vs PU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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