timmyboy Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Rick Boyages, Associate Commissioner of the Mid-American Conference. In the email he called me ignorant as well as any of ther akron fans who complain about whats going on with the Zips (an the timing error in the championship game). he also admitted that the timer for the mac championship game did start the clock 1 second late, which would have caused the clock to run out before the miami player got the ball off, but it was "human error" so there wasent anything they could do about it, that is why they added.6 seconds to the clock. He also stated that the guy working the clock is the same guy who works the clock for all cavs games, and any other sporting event held in the Q arena. He said that the officials who work the games, arent MAC officials, they are officials that are independant officials who are contracted out, and have nothing to do with the MAC other then being selected to work the MAC games.... did this guy graduate from Cant state, because his email reply to mine is very rude and unclassy. if anyone would like to see exactly what he said PM me and i will send it to ur mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br30302004 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 I would suggest you post your e-mail and his response, so maybe some others from the zips nation can craft some e-mails or make some calls based on the info he provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZip_08 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Rick BoyagesRick Boyages, a 17-year college basketball coaching veteran, including experience as a Division I head coach and the associate head coach of Ohio State's 1999 Final Four team, is the Associate Commissioner/Director of Men's Basketball Operations for the Mid-American Conference (MAC). Boyages comes to the MAC after serving as the Special Assistant to the Athletic Director at Ohio State. At the MAC, Boyages has primary oversight of all Men's Basketball activities including scheduling, game management, officiating, television, marketing and promotion, and MAC Tournament operations. A native of Wakefield, Mass., Boyages spent three seasons on the Ohio State staff as associate head coach from 1998-2000 before taking over as the head coach at William and Mary in June of 2000. He returned to Ohio State and served as both associate head coach and interim head coach from 2003-2004. Boyages began his Division I coaching career at Boston College in 1991. He went to the Eagles' staff from Bates College, where he had been head coach for four years. When named head coach at Bates in 1987, Boyages, then 24, was the nation's youngest collegiate head coach. At both Ohio State and Boston College, Boyages was a part of amazing one-season turnarounds. At Boston College he helped turn the Eagles around from a 9-19 team in 1995 to a 19-11 team that went to the NCAA tournament in 1996. Then with Ohio State, he had a part in turning the Buckeyes from an 8-21 season to a 27-9 mark and a berth in the Final Four in 1999, the fourth-best single-season improvement in Division I history. In his career, Boyages has coached 15 NCAA tournament games in five appearances, including making the Final Four once and the elite eight twice. In each NCAA showing, his team has never failed to win its first-round game. In addition, his teams have won Big East and Big Ten tournament championships. Boyages' coaching talents have led him around the world. Over the years, numerous international federations, national teams and professional club teams have recruited his services. Boyages has conducted basketball clinics in Africa, Canada, the Czech Republic, France, Greece, Slovakia and Sweden. A 1985 graduate of Bowdoin College, Boyages was an All-New England basketball honoree. He was awarded the Allison Haldane Cup for outstanding leadership and character at his commencement and holds a master's degree in Education from Boston University. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyboy Posted March 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 I would suggest you post your e-mail and his response, so maybe some others from the zips nation can craft some e-mails or make some calls based on the info he provided. this is my email to him:To: RBoyages@mac-sports.comSubject: reguarding title game.. When the ball is touched after a missed free throw, isn't the clock supposed to start? If you have watched any TV and noticed, the clock didn't start until the Miami of OH player grabbed the ball and turned to go up court, and NOT when it was first touched like it should have been. Had the clock started at the correct time, when touched they would have never gotten the ball off. The officiating in the MAC this year has been downright horrible and you all should be ashamed to be a part of the MAC staff. You guys need to take a long look at the officials for next year! And instead of having just the officials make the choices in a game that it means so much, as it did last night. Have the coward of a commissioner be there to over look the play and maybe then things wouldn't be so screwed up. I know i will never get a reply to this email, but i just wanted to let you all know how i feel. Now we know why everyone looks at the MAC conference as a joke!and here is his reply to me:It’s amazing to me how ignorant your email is. Yes, the clock operator was approximately one second late in starting the clock. It is called human error – something which you yourself have probably never been guilty of in your entire life! As an NBA timer for the Cavs, he has more than enough experience to warrant doing the job and, believe me, no one feels worse about it than he does. In reviewing the play, the referees became the official timers and utilized a stop watch to obtain the exact time it took from the initial touch until the 3-point shot banked in and cleared the net. They reviewed and timed the play while watching the video monitor exactly five separate times in order to be absolutely sure. They found the play to have taken 6 seconds and, considering that the free throw attempt took place with 6.6 seconds, deduced that there was still six-tenths of a second remaining for Akron to in-bound the ball. The stopwatch also verified that the shot was released in time. The four officials (3 on the game and one serving as stand-by) at the table possessed more than 80 years of experience officiating college basketball. Two have been selected to go on to work this week’s NCAA Tournament, one will work in the NIT, and one is retiring after 32 years of officiating in the Big Ten and the MAC. As someone who coached college basketball for 20 years including five NCAA tournaments, two Elite Eights, and a Final Four, I would take any of them on my games at any time. However, I am sure by your comments, that you must have more basketball experience and knowledge than any and all of us. Please do me a favor and also write the Commissioners of the Big Ten, Big East, SEC, Conference USA , Atlantic-10, Missouri Valley , Horizon, and Mid-Con to complain about officiating because our MAC officials also work all of those basketball conferences. For your information, they are independent-contractors and work throughout the country. ESPN, who possesses multi-million dollar digital video equipment and computer enhancing graphics, also confirmed that the shot was released in time. I think the officials did an amazing job considering the intense pressure, the importance of the game, and the fact that they had only a stopwatch and an eight-inch monitor to get it right. Coach Dambrot also called me personally today to confirm that the basket was indeed good. Tell me, Timmy, is it tough going through your life as an “expert” on everything? And, oh yes, you have now officially received a reply to your sophomoric email. Lastly, “reguarding” is actually spelled r-e-g-a-r-d-i-n-g. Imagine that, you actually just made the first mistake of your life! -------------------------------------------------------- Rick Boyages Associate Commissioner Mid-American Conference office - 216.566.4622 x307 | cell - 614-208-8767 rboyages@mac-sports.com | www.mac-sports.com/-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 HOLY SH#T! i can't believe someone would be that unprofessional. something you said must have really hit home for him to be that low. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZip_08 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 You know for a man with such an amazing resume I find it almost immature, dare I say it, that he feels the need to degrade a passionate fan. And for the pathetic response to a spelling error, I found a few grammatical within his own self-confident speech. I can only imagine the influx of hate mail right now; I am sure it influences his wonderful attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 I think you should fowaerd it to all the major media. What a classless response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip81 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Timmy was strong in his e-mail, however this response is highly unprofessional.If I were to respond to a customer like that where I work, I would soon be selling pencils at the corner of E 9th and Euclid.These guys in their insulated world forget who the customer is, resulting in rude e-mails such as the one written by this guy.Timmy, you should forward his e-mail to Chryst, who should insist that Boyages write you an apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 i agree... there should be some kind of apology, preferably a public one.(did i spell everything correctly?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZip_08 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Email with class. It's easy to completely ignore students and upset fans when their responses are littered with expletives and degrading statements. Although Mr. Boyages did email back, he may certainly forget the rantings of an "ignorant" student. So be filled with all the kindness and professionalism you can muster, and send this to all the media, and any other connection you might have with influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyboy Posted March 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Glad to see that people agree with me. I dont feel I did anything wrong in speaking my opinion to this guy. He was probably just upset because he knows people are now looking at the MAC as a joke. I would definalty forward that reply to the sportscasters if i had their emails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNCLZip Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 That is an extremely unprofessional email. I'd send it to every media outlet straight away. I'd also share with Proenza, Rhoades, and Dambrot. You don't call a fan "ignorant", regardless of what that fan wrote in the first place (not saying you wrote anything inappropriate--just saying that even if someone did, his response is not appropriate).We seriously need out of this hellhole of a conference asap. They clearly don't have any idea how to run an operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyMania Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 you did spell regarding wrong.....i don't think i've ever seen it spelled like you had it. Was a classless response though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNCLZip Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Glad to see that people agree with me. I dont feel I did anything wrong in speaking my opinion to this guy. He was probably just upset because he knows people are now looking at the MAC as a joke. I would definalty forward that reply to the sportscasters if i had their emails. Here are some links. Send to as many as you can. Make sure you describe to them the whole situation in brief--but they should already know a lot of it. WEWS: http://www.newsnet5.com/station/967309/detail.htmlWOIO: http://woio.com/Global/category.asp?C=7148&nav=menu68_9_1 (links to emails on each reporter's page)WJW: http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/...tUs?pageId=5.11 Couldn't locate individual emails on a quick pass. Could use this form.WKYC: http://www.wkyc.com/company/bios/ This is a start anyway.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyboy Posted March 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 you did spell regarding wrong.....i don't think i've ever seen it spelled like you had it. Was a classless response though. I know I didnt correctly spell it ha. It was written out of anger an frustration after getting screwed over by a time keeper at the MAC championship, so i didnt read it over. I didnt even realize it till the guy responded back to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Plenty of media and coaches read this site. It will be seen by many here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZip_08 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 LOCAL NEWS EMAILS for NBC and ABC affiliates. jimdonovan@wkyc.comandybaskin@wkyc.combriancolleran@wkyc.comericmansfield@wkyc.com5sports@newsnet5.comchandler@newsnet5.comrobak@newsnet5.com(310) 369-7761 Fox Sports Phone Number for Feedback regarding Broadcastinghttp://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?...=contact/espntvContact email for ESPN TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip90 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 I think we all need to give Rick a break, after all, he barely escaped being caught up in the scandal that took down Jim Obrien at Ohio Stink, and secondly, Wright State made it into the big dance this year, their first year WITHOUT HIM coaching. He must feel pretty sh*tty about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNCLZip Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 His bio mentions Ohio State's 1999 Final Four appearance. Weren't they stripped of that? Should that be mentioned in an official bio considering that they were stripped of it? tOSU can't mention it; why can Boyages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 tOSU took me a second to get it, but now i do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 You guys have to remember that he is like a govt. worker. They don't answer to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcperp Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 That letter from Boyages is utterly unprofessional and is basically just a projection of his own inadequacies and folly as the guy who was ultimately responsible for the "operations" of the tournament. To him, I say, "well done Rick" you've built upon your fine coaching resume and brought that gift of shall we charitably say "human error" to the highest reaches of the MAC Central Office.As far as the letter being "sophomoric", well Rick, many who attend college hoop games and play college hoop games, and go to college are sophomores.Now here's some advice for you Rick, make sure the benches have Gatorade, and that the hoops have nets on them, other than that, please stay out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indians06 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Your e-mail to him was ignorant. You called his conference a joke, thats his job. If someone called my line of work a joke I wouldn't reply back, but to call something a joke is very ignorant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indians06 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 His bio mentions Ohio State's 1999 Final Four appearance. Weren't they stripped of that? Should that be mentioned in an official bio considering that they were stripped of it? tOSU can't mention it; why can Boyages? They wern't stripped of it. There were no recruiting violations done with that team. The only hting they got O'brien on was giving money to a recruit that did not come to Ohio State. The final 4 appereance is leit, and is still celebrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 still, if that is how you feel, you should just have ignored the letter not sent one back that displayed a complete lack of class and professionalism. he is the man in the suit, timmy is an angry fan (and student i am assuming). sorry, but we as a society expect more out of the man in the suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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