MRasor0200 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 I dug up some data of how much money each UA sport brings in, compared to how much they spend.I'm curious as to what ZipsNation thinks about the figures...The data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziptrumpet87 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 I think softball, baseball, and volleyball are some of the big opportunities to increase revenues to at least what women's basketball is bringing in. Not saying they will make money, just that I think there's some untapped potential there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 What is included in revenue? Ticket sales? Z-Fund Donations? Etc.?What is total revenue - total expenses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 What was the change in apparel sales in 2005/6/to-date (in response to the MAC Championship/MCB and soccer team's success)?The numbers look worse than I would have expected. But what is the price tag for the regional exposure we've received from the MAC tourney two weekends ago. Or the national exposure had we beaten Miami?Like it or not, sports is a great way to expand your school's name across the nation. A well-performing athletic program benefits all our degrees. And, it's fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 personally i am surprised that rifle brings in any revenue. umm... not really surprised at the figures though. glad to see the numbers cause the next time some football player brings up that they're the "money making" sport thus they should receive preferential treatment i can come back with the fact that they are also $3,000,000 in the red compared to our measly $89,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 My question is where do the sponsorship dollars from Team Akron partners get allocated? And how much is generated from the Z-fund etc that would not be gotten if those sports did not exist? I would think playing at osu, indiana, and uconn alone would generate over 1M if revenue next year. Mike if you are interested, there is a website called ope.gov (I think) which lists revenues and expenses for all teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcperp Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Holy Title IX Batman!! Total revenues for women's basketball, softball, volleyball, track, and soccer - $52,717 Total expenses for those sports -$2,871,008; Percentage of revenues to expenses 1.8%.Men's sports stats - Football percentage of revenue to expenses - 18.2%, basketball - 51.5% (by far the best self supporting sport)Having worked in higher education budgeting for many years, I can tell you that UA's sports income statements are very similar to other schools of comparable athletic prowess and resources. The revenues displayed by Rasor do not take into account the apportionment of the university's General Services fee which is about $360 per semester for full time undergraduate students. I'd guess that UA has about 22,000 students which if converted to all full-time students would equal roughly 16,000 full time equivalents. Doing the math with the General Services fee of $720/year; you get about $11.5 million. Now the question that Rasor needs to ask is, what percentage of the General Services fee does athletics receive?Using Rasor's data, the net loss for all sports was $9.04 million. I have no doubt Athletics receives the lion's share of the General Services Fee, but likely not the 80% necessary to cover a $9 million deficit. Other sources of funding that probably aren't noted would be athletic donations (both restricted and unrestricted) and various general revenues (licensing fees, facility rentals, etc).What does all this tell us? Well, in order to be considered D-1, you need to fund a lot of sports with little or no revenue, Title IX puts an onerous burden on an athletic department that any AD would acknowledge in a private moment. However the two big things it doesn't calculate is the marketing advantage a D-1 program provides to potential students, and the fact that sports exist because we love them. After all, cost of Tuition $8,000 cost of housing $5,000 cost of beating K.e.n.t. three times in the same year...priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 McPerp!! You really think that a sport that covers 51% of its expenses is self supporting? I'm guessing you don't teach business finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRasor0200 Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I have a lot more data to comb over. I'll post more on my blog in the coming weeks.Not having a background in finance makes a lot of these statements look like Japanese -- well, if I hadn't taken Japanese in high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcperp Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 McPerp!! You really think that a sport that covers 51% of its expenses is self supporting? I'm guessing you don't teach business finance.Umm, it's obvious (I thought anyway) that none of the sports are making money. The term self supporting was used in my context to merely identify which sport is doing the best job comparatively in supporting itself financially, even though they too are losing money. My apologies if the vagaries of my note were misinterpreted, and yes, I'll see you in Business Finance class tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I was going to say something about Title IX but .... my wife was looking over my shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad1990 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I was going to say something about Title IX but .... my wife was looking over my shoulder.My wife isn't looking over mine, nor would she care is she was. My only problem with Title IX is that their is no equivalent to football for women, which leads to cutting of men's sports to make the numbers equal.Rather than cutting men's sports I wish they would be allowed to give out an equal amount of scholarships for women to equal the number of football scholarships. That would be more fair then cutting men's sports programs to make sure the number of men and women athletic scholarships are equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00t Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Ooooh, let me weigh in here... Title IX is the greasy banana peel on the stairway to college athletics hell. The 'Equality of Outcomes Police' ruin everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 there are downsides to it, but at the same time it's a necessary evil. let's start up women's football and everything will be in balance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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