After 2 Lackluster games....

[timmyboy]

After 2 games in which the offense was ok AT BEST. Does anyone else think it might be time to put CJ in to see what he can do. I am watching this Virginia Tech game and they are getting pumped, and because they are unable to move the ball they decided to switch QB's and even though they are losing badly..... you can see the difference between the starter and the replacement........... My opinion is start CJ in the next game and give him a chance to show everyone what he can do and see if he can start moving this offense, because if not we are all in for a LONGGGG and disappointing season.

[Buckzip]

Yes. He can't be any worse than Jacq.At least he gives a dimension that Jacq doesn't.

[zippyrifle32]

he did play... and he didn't do anything different. the ball needs to move forward not left and right.

[skip-zip]

I don't want to profess to know more than JD. And I also don't want to start looking towards the backup quarterback to solve the problem, especially since I criticize the Browns for their lack of growth over the last 8 years using that same futile strategy.Much like the Browns, the problem appears to be the blocking. I don't care which quarterback plays, if you can't run the football, and can't keep pressure off of your quarterback, you're in trouble. But, it's not a surprise to anyone that we would struggle to produce offense in yesterday's game. So, lets see how this unfolds when we play some lesser opponents over the next couple of weeks.Yes, it seems Jackson could provide a little more spark. But for now, I am going to trust that JD is putting us in the best position to win games by utilizing the guy who makes fewer mistakes, and rely on a strong defense to win games.

[zip81]

I don't want to profess to know more than JD. And I also don't want to start looking towards the backup quarterback to solve the problem, especially since I criticize the Browns for their lack of growth over the last 8 years using that same futile strategy.Much like the Browns, the problem appears to be the blocking. I don't care which quarterback plays, if you can't run the football, and can't keep pressure off of your quarterback, you're in trouble. But, it's not a surprise to anyone that we would struggle to produce offense in yesterday's game. So, lets see how this unfolds when we play some lesser opponents over the next couple of weeks.Yes, it seems Jackson could provide a little more spark. But for now, I am going to trust that JD is putting us in the best position to win games by utilizing the guy who makes fewer mistakes, and rely on a strong defense to win games.

I agree skip...We don't really know what Jaq can do because of the line.They are young...don't know about their talent level..can they make enough progress to provide decent protection?The heart attack is on the line...let's not put a band aid on it by changing the QB.Personally, I wish we would end the QB derby.

[akronad]

I agree. We don't need a QB derby. I thought Jackson was going to play the 1st of the 2nd quarter and that was it. when I looked onto the field for both the 1st and 2nd series, it was still Jaq. then Jackson came in, then kaq in the 3rd quarter, then when we could move the ball, back to Jackson. There is no consistentcy and it does cause havoc with the rest of the offensive personnel.I am not a proponent nor an opponent of either qb. Let's just make a choice who we are going to play and stick with that choice.

[Zipmeister]

I also agree. Let's set a course and follow it. It worked for the Titanic. Flexibility is way overrated.

[Dr Z]

I didn't thin Jacq was our problem in that game.I was more confident with him behind center than CJ.Jacq looked more poised to me.I love coach Moorehead, but I did not like the way he called that game.I saw no adjustment at half either. I was most dissapointed in the play calling.I was most impressed with the punting. Way to fix that blocked punt fiasco against Army.

[Ryno aka Menace]

I didn't thin Jacq was our problem in that game.I was more confident with him behind center than CJ.Jacq looked more poised to me.I love coach Moorehead, but I did not like the way he called that game.I saw no adjustment at half either. I was most dissapointed in the play calling.I was most impressed with the punting. Way to fix that blocked punt fiasco against Army.

Dr. Z we usually agree on everything but do you think that there was no half time adjustment because A. He felt that that swing passes, and screens were all we could do against that defense.B. The Buckeyes weren't stopping us "We" weren't executing the plays ex. missing blocking assignments, dropped balls etc.. I know when fans screen for half time adjustments a lot of times the locker room speech is that we are not executing so how can the coach say the plays don't work. C. He is just dumb and didn't make adjustments.D. He didn't have a backup game plan. He went into this game with an all of nothing attitude.

[akronad]

Assessment of the game.1. All of last season and after the Army game, I have been complaining about special teams. Although, I could not evaluate the field goal kicking unit, I must say Stec was punting the ball with authority and our coverage was very good. On kick-offs, it looked like the blocking wasn't always there.2. Offense-where????????? I'm sure we will hear from JD that they took everything away except the east-west routes. We really need to find a way to move the ball north-south. This is just about what I expected this season with an inexperienced qb and a young line.3. Defense- They played their butts off. an expectional game and this unit just might keep us in the thick of things in the MAC.After sleeping on things, I have come to this conclusion about our opponent from Columbus. They seemed to have more depth than us and were a well disciplined defensive unit. Like us, i think they will see thier problems on offense.Go Zips!!!!!! Bring on the Hoosiers.

[zen]

Yes. He can't be any worse than Jacq.At least he gives a dimension that Jacq doesn't.

Both guys played fine. I still say, the problem is the one dimensional play callling.

[LosAngelesZipFan]

Here's my question regarding Jacq and CJ-- I thought CJ was significantly more mobile; in fact, I thought he was touted as being a Vick/Slash type in that he always presented the threat of rolling off an 8 yard run if he couldn't find an open receiver. But it seems in there is no difference in the playcalling when he has come in-- there is no attempt to showcase that ability. If they had determined that a bunch dinks and screens were the best we could do (which almost never wins ballgames...the offensive equivalent of the prevent defense imho), why was even bother to bring CJ in?When we played OSU in '01, Frye had an excellent game and bought time by rolling out almost every play--it was actually a great move by Owens to neutralize the size difference on the line. The extra few seconds bought him some time to throw but then also gave me him a lane to scramble which is obviously Frye's thing. Wouldn't that have been exactly the way to use a CJ?With the way the D was playing and with how bad their offense is, had we been able to get a handful of first downs-- move the ball just a little to buy the D some breathing time-- it could have been the difference in this game.One good thing came of this-- I don't hold my breath anymore on punts. That was an incredible performance.

[Class of 82]

I'm not sure I saw a quarterback issue in our inability to move the ball yesterday. It looked a lot more to me like an offensive line that simply could not win many battles, either individually or as a unit. If that happens, it really doesn't matter much who's playing quarterback. And unless you have Jim Brown in the backfield, you're not going to run very much, either.Let's all hope that a) the Buckeyes defense really is as terrific as it looked yesterday, and our inexperienced line develops in a positive direction every week.

[LosAngelesZipFan]

Yes, but knowing you have a problem at the line, there are ways to manage that (like rolling out from the gun which buys you 5 or 6 steps). I am not saying that it would turn the offense around, but maybe would have given us a shot at a couple of first downs. Tressel said it best after the game when he said the Zips were behind the count almost all day--2nd and 13 to go, which is not where you want to be against that defense.The offense, for most of last season and this year, just has no fight in it. The defense, as strong as it appears to be shaping up, can't entirely carry the team-- its just too taxing by the 4th quarter. We need to be able to get a few first downs and be opportunitistic enough to score when we get great field position. There seems to be no go to play or playmaker at this point, or maybe just one potential playmaker in Jabari. Is this a direct result of the recruiting fiascos of the past 3 years-- players we bet on now not being here, leaving gaping holes in the basic mechanics of the team? We need to fix this with this class to build momentum in 2009 and the new stadium.

[timmyboy]

how much did CJ play? Was it his usual 1 series? if that is all he played then maybe we should let him play a few more series a game. I mean he did lead our team in rushing with 10 yards on 3 carries..... what did JAQ do?

[Quickzips]

The thing we are sorely missing, more than anything else is a speed reciever who can stretch the field and compliment Jabari. Jabari is turning into a heck of a reciever, but his strength is in his size. He presents mismatches based on his size. He's not a speed reciever by any stretch of the imagination. We are missing Harvey and Lindsey bigtime. I really wish we had one of those guys back. Just one of those guys to soften up the defense a bit yesterday and I have a feeling that game would have gotten VERY interesting.As far as the QB situation, I still don't know what Jacq. is doing in there. He's got decent skills and his arm isn't that bad, but he's not going to win us ballgames. He's not going to lose us ballgames, but he offers nothing to show that he can win us ballgames either. I'd much rather take our lumps with CJ. He might make a couple mistakes and he might lose us a ballgame, but he can make plays that Jacq. just can't. He's got just as good an arm, he's got more mobility and quite frankly I think he's got better accuracy.

[ZippyAlum]

Did you even watch or listen to the game? CJ played a lot in the second half. I even thought Jac got hurt since CJ played so much. The QBs were running for their lives and I saw no more mobility in either one of them. I think you, Timmy boy, are a relative or something of CJs. We all knew OSU would be tough. If it were easy it wouldn't have been an "upset" for us to win. As a fan, I know one thing. I'm not giving up on this team so quickly. I know they've got a lot of good plays on the back burner. Why they're not using them I'm not sure. Maybe they're saving them for MAC play?????? Our offense did not perform well against Ohio State, now that's a shocker!! That doesn't mean that Jac and DK etc all need to be replaced. Maybe I'm not as optimistic as the rest of you but I went out to watch the game just hoping we'd be competitive and we were. I see great things for this team but they're young. Give them time. The chemistry is there. We saw Mackey and the defense step up and I am confident that the offense will too. Let's see some of those "secret" plays!!!!!

[timmyboy]

Did you even watch or listen to the game? CJ played a lot in the second half. I even thought Jac got hurt since CJ played so much. The QBs were running for their lives and I saw no more mobility in either one of them. I think you, Timmy boy, are a relative or something of CJs. We all knew OSU would be tough. If it were easy it wouldn't have been an "upset" for us to win. As a fan, I know one thing. I'm not giving up on this team so quickly. I know they've got a lot of good plays on the back burner. Why they're not using them I'm not sure. Maybe they're saving them for MAC play?????? Our offense did not perform well against Ohio State, now that's a shocker!! That doesn't mean that Jac and DK etc all need to be replaced. Maybe I'm not as optimistic as the rest of you but I went out to watch the game just hoping we'd be competitive and we were. I see great things for this team but they're young. Give them time. The chemistry is there. We saw Mackey and the defense step up and I am confident that the offense will too. Let's see some of those "secret" plays!!!!!

No im not related to CJ..... Just a Zips fan who is tired of seeing the zips lose. I want the QB who gives us the best chance to win to play.......and from what I have seen i think CJ is the better QB.

[Zipgrad01]

We ran the same 5 plays over and over and over again. We constantly ran screen passes because JD was scared to death of OSU's front 7. Just ask him and he will tell you. He pissed down his leg on the play calling and that is why Akron's offense didn't produce. If our offense even had a little creativity the game would have been a dogfight considering the 5 turnovers. We had great field position all through the game and did nothing but throw sideways.

[Big Zip]

the fasciation with CJ still baffles me! What has CJ done that has made people say Jacq isn't the man. I've watched Jacq in person when he was at Mentor both as a wide receiver (his junior year) and a quarterback and he was impressive in both roles. If you've seen Mentor they run a really complicated offense and he ran it better than anyone since they switched to the offense. The problem is not Jacq -- I'm afraid the problem is directly related to Moorehead and his inability to coach offense. I'm not impressed at all.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Everyone was down on the punting game last week. It was terrible vs. Army and it was terrible for the better part of last season. Yet against OSU we turned things around dramatically.It is a lot easier to shore up your punting game than to fix your offense...but I remain hopeful that all the offensive problems we have witnessed are just as easily recognized by the Zips staff, and that will be addressed with the zeal that was applied to our punting woes.I'm really curious to see how we respond this week.