ONCE AGAIN,WHAT IS BROOKHART AND HIS STAFF DOING!?

[Lee Adams]

coaching and playing to WIN for FOUR quarters starts with the coaches...playing not to lose starts with the coaches...sending that message to the players starts with the coaches...the players see the play calling on both sides of the ball...they see the STATUE standing behind the line of scrimmage watching the clock run down and allow a review of a pass play...the players play to expectations of the staff during the game...Brookhart and his staff sent the message in the 2nd half that we will play not to lose...good for Temple...they coached and played 4 quarters to win...if you don't think there are some serious questions about the abilities of Brookhart and his staff to handle a game after this pile of crap go watch a coach who is better than .500 after 4 years...is it 22-22 now?

[skip-zip]

Temple actually showed that they could move the ball the entire game not jusdt the last quarter. Defense got tired. JD could not come up with answers to get 1st downs in the 4th.

[scottditzen]

Temple actually showed that they could move the ball the entire game not jusdt the last quarter. Defense got tired. JD could not come up with answers to get 1st downs in the 4th.

This has been the identity of our team, come out in the 2nd half and go into cruise control- be conservative.Congrats to Temple, they came here to win. And if they convert those missed field goals they beat us by 10.

[Lee Adams]

you guys are right...Temple could have won by more...thats REALLY scary!

[Hilltopper]

JD Brookhart = .500 coach at best.

[uafan]

Lee Adams...I agree with you! Once again we are out-coached and out-scored in the swcond half. When the fans are thinking, "Here we go again!" it's time to do something different! I say we should put in some of those great recruiting classes he has had! What? Oh, yeah. Most of them never made it to school!

[akronad]

I agree. We are living with nothing but mediocrity. Let's ask ourselves a few questions;1. Why can't we draw good crowd consistently2. Why are we not always feature on the front page of the BJ, even though it is our home paper3. Why are so many people on these boards hoping for us to move to the Big EastLet me start my rambling by saying that I have been a Zip fan for longer than most of you have been alive x 2. So there is probably nothing I havn't seen or heard.I hear the same excuse for attendance, is because of the RB. Sure, that plays a art of the equation, but you've got to have a good and consisent product out on the field. It was great in the pre-game to hear the call of the game winning TD against WMU, but the team (coaches & players) have to be able to follow that up with actions.We all complain about the BJ not giving us much pub on the front page of the Sports section. Why should they? Who wants to report about a mediocre team (at best) that just got beat by Temple (NO ONE)Those of you who are compaigning for a move to the Big East, not get your hopes too high. I agree that the MAC stinks, but until we start producing winning teams and good attendance, the Big East is going to look elsewhere.Please don't even give me the excuse that things will change in 2 years when InfoCision Stadium is opened. That will not cut any water we me now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we play these games to win and not plan on waiting 2 years to win.Recruiting has s---ed. Sure, it looks good on paper, but what good does it do us if these kids only play for us one year (Harvey) or never play for us. We need to start recruiting more quality players.JD has never impressed me, but I have been supportive of him. But, other than the fact that we got lucky as well as we were good back in '05, what has he done for us. He currently has a record of 21-22. This should be a year when this team is taking off, considering this is his 4th year of recruits. AGAIN, NOTHING BUT MEDIOCRITY.Either, JD needs to change some members of his coaching staff and get better recruits or maybe we should begin the horrible process of looking for another coach. I can tell you this, Proenza and Rhoades aren't going to wait forever for things to turn around.I don;t have the ear of either of these gentlemen. However, I know some of our more prestigous alumni do, and they are not afraid to tell it like it is.For all of our sakes, I truly hope this week off will help us, and we can right the ship. We either need to run the table or drop just 1 game. Any more than that, and that victory to Can't will be meaningless.

After all of this, I still am a Zips fan and

GO ZIPS

[zipsbandman]

I agree. We are living with nothing but mediocrity. Let's ask ourselves a few questions;1. Why can't we draw good crowd consistently2. Why are we not always feature on the front page of the BJ, even though it is our home paper3. Why are so many people on these boards hoping for us to move to the Big EastLet me start my rambling by saying that I have been a Zip fan for longer than most of you have been alive x 2. So there is probably nothing I havn't seen or heard.I hear the same excuse for attendance, is because of the RB. Sure, that plays a art of the equation, but you've got to have a good and consisent product out on the field. It was great in the pre-game to hear the call of the game winning TD against WMU, but the team (coaches & players) have to be able to follow that up with actions.We all complain about the BJ not giving us much pub on the front page of the Sports section. Why should they? Who wants to report about a mediocre team (at best) that just got beat by Temple (NO ONE)Those of you who are compaigning for a move to the Big East, not get your hopes too high. I agree that the MAC stinks, but until we start producing winning teams and good attendance, the Big East is going to look elsewhere.Please don't even give me the excuse that things will change in 2 years when InfoCision Stadium is opened. That will not cut any water we me now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we play these games to win and not plan on waiting 2 years to win.Recruiting has s---ed. Sure, it looks good on paper, but what good does it do us if these kids only play for us one year (Harvey) or never play for us. We need to start recruiting more quality players.JD has never impressed me, but I have been supportive of him. But, other than the fact that we got lucky as well as we were good back in '05, what has he done for us. He currently has a record of 21-22. This should be a year when this team is taking off, considering this is his 4th year of recruits. AGAIN, NOTHING BUT MEDIOCRITY.Either, JD needs to change some members of his coaching staff and get better recruits or maybe we should begin the horrible process of looking for another coach. I can tell you this, Proenza and Rhoades aren't going to wait forever for things to turn around.I don;t have the ear of either of these gentlemen. However, I know some of our more prestigous alumni do, and they are not afraid to tell it like it is.For all of our sakes, I truly hope this week off will help us, and we can right the ship. We either need to run the table or drop just 1 game. Any more than that, and that victory to Can't will be meaningless.

After all of this, I still am a Zips fan and

GO ZIPS

Changes are going to have to be made. JD needs to start realizing that he will be in hot water really fast if something is not done. Jaquemane needs to sit. Morheed as an offensive coordinator is not cutting it. Recruiting philosophy must change. The conservative playcalling must stop. I believe that we need to wait it out a year or so yet because we don't have the luxury of changing coaches on the dime like notre dame or michigan, but proenza and rhodes are not going to give jd as much time as lee owens was given. I would sure hate to open in the new stadium in a rebuilding year because this is a tremendous opportunity to slingshot our program.

[ZachTheZip]

JD isn't going anywhere until his contract runs out. UA can't afford to buy him out and find a replacement.That said, Morehead has to go. I don't necessicarily mean to fire him, but he can't stay in his current position. JD has fixed our special teams, except for punting. He should at least partly focus on the offense next. He was an offensive coordinator, after all. Our offense, coupled with our punting has caused our opponents to start out with excellent field position constantly. It is wearing out our defense.

[ZippyRulz]

Things will change in 2 years when InfoCision Stadium is opened. I repeat, things will change in 2 years when InfoCision Stadium is opened. It will have magical powers with this program. There's no point in changing coaches until we see what JD does in the new stadium. At that point there will be new higher expectations and he will have to produce mightily or his contract will not be renewed. Maybe the OC is on the hot seat but that's about it.

[Quickzips]

Things will change in 2 years when InfoCision Stadium is opened. I repeat, things will change in 2 years when InfoCision Stadium is opened. It will have magical powers with this program. There's no point in changing coaches until we see what JD does in the new stadium. At that point there will be new higher expectations and he will have to produce mightily or his contract will not be renewed. Maybe the OC is on the hot seat but that's about it.

You're delusional. The field itself doesn't mean a thing when it comes to the product that we put on it. You guys can go on giving JD chance after chance after chance to make something of this program. Me I've seen enough. The guy backed into a championship 2 years ago and has done nothing since then. His teams struggle to get near .500, his recruits never see the light of the practice field, his players lack any sort of discipline, his offense is so scatterbrained and inconsistent that it will never consistently win us ballgames and his defense is so centered around one player (Mackey) that when that one player goes down the entire defense collapses. We beat one really bad BCS team since he's been here and have gotten thoroughly beaten by just about every other team we've faced. Call it a rebuilding year if you'd like, but remember that for the most part those are JD's players down there on the field. He brought them into the program and they have been his responsibility. These guys should have been groomed for the challenges they are now facing starting 3 years ago, but it is obvious that they haven't. Color me off the bandwagon. JD has to go.

[Lee Adams]

Zippy Rulz, sorry but you are a ...well you know...all Rhoades and Brokenehart are trying to do is pad their resumes and move on..if you think otherwise....neither one has any connection with Akron and could care less when they leave here..Rhoades is a needle ....who came from the wilderness..Brokenhart is not ahead coach...his assistants are people who could not get a big time job elsewhere...we are being PIMPed so that RHOADES and Brokenhart can move on...GOOD RIDDANCE!

[skip-zip]

As fans, we have a right to demand excellence on the field. But, lets look at this clearly before we take on the typical Cleveland Browns fan mentality.This program has seen renewed hope under Brookhart. If you want to see mediocrity, look at the previous 9-year regime. In those years, we were trained to think that a 4-win season showed "promise". We've made progress since those days, and already have some things to show for it. Plus, a .500 record in your 4th year of rebuilding a program is not that bad. Sure, this is a critical year in the fact that Brookhart needs to show that he's moving in the right direction. We've played a tough schedule up to this point, and we are 2-1 in MAC play with a chance to compete for the title in what I thought would clearly be only a "rebuilding" year. I'm going to choose to cheer this team on, hope for the best, and see how the rest of the season pans out.

[Lee Adams]

skip-zip: choose what YOU want...doesn't matter...you are way OFF...we are being PIMPED by Brokenhart and Rhoades...you don't need a new stadium to MAGICALLY WIN...lots of winng teams have played at the BOWL...just before you knew about football..

[Quickzips]

As fans, we have a right to demand excellence on the field. But, lets look at this clearly before we take on the typical Cleveland Browns fan mentality.This program has seen renewed hope under Brookhart. If you want to see mediocrity, look at the previous 9-year regime. In those years, we were trained to think that a 4-win season showed "promise". We've made progress since those days, and already have some things to show for it. Plus, a .500 record in your 4th year of rebuilding a program is not that bad. Sure, this is a critical year in the fact that Brookhart needs to show that he's moving in the right direction. We've played a tough schedule up to this point, and we are 2-1 in MAC play with a chance to compete for the title in what I thought would clearly be only a "rebuilding" year. I'm going to choose to cheer this team on, hope for the best, and see how the rest of the season pans out.

See the flaw in your argument here is that you are telling us that under Lee Owens we were trained to find progress in a 4 win year while simultaneously telling us that we should see hope in a season where we are flirting with .500. Other than 2 wins what is really the big difference???

[ZipAlumn]

I've been a Zip fan for more years than I want to remember. Gordon Larson and Red Cochran were the heroes in my day ... and to my way of thinking Red Cochran is one of the best A.D.'s Akron has ever had. The Zips football team doesn't stink, the coaching staff doesn't stink, but the Athletic department does have the beginnings of an odor. We are being trained to accept mediocrity, and training started when we hired Faust.The MAC may be a weak conference now, but transferring to another (i.e. the Big East) is a pipe dream that would be a horror show for our football program. The Rubber Bowl is old and falling down but if we think that a new stadium will automatically change us into a winner is just whistling past the graveyard. The coaching staff lacks imagination and while I believe they want to win, they just don't know how, thus the conservation play calling. And finally the players that are recruited may be very good athletes, but in general they are not quality people and thus never make it to the field for any length of time.All in all this isn't a pretty picture, but at least we are not Can't. :wall: :screwks: :wall:

[GP1]

As fans, we have a right to demand excellence on the field. But, lets look at this clearly before we take on the typical Cleveland Browns fan mentality.

Good post. I lived in NE Ohio for 20 years and I can say that Browns fans are the worst fans in football. The combination of angry and stupid is really sad. My problem is that most Zips fans are also Browns fans so we have to read this nonsense periodically.If JD is around next year, and I really mean IF (as much as some of you have had enough of him, I think he has had enough of Akron and the nonsense associated with coaching here), he needs to really only do two things. First, shit can the 3-3-5 defense. We can't go on giving up 21 points per quarter in one quarter of the second half each game. Second, decide on an offense and then hire a guy to call the plays for that offense. Our current offensive corrdinator has no experience calling plays for the offense we are running. College football is all about scoring a ton of points each week. Teams that can't, fall into the second level of their conference, teams that do, rise to the top. It has little to do with defense. If defense really won games, LSU would have never lost to Kentucky last weekend. Kentucky had a senior QB who was able to put it all together late and in overtime to beat a very good defense with touchdowns and not FGs.

[Lee Adams]

thank all of you are are NOT drinking the 'new stadium will fix everything' kool aid..the athletic dept got a bunch of money which looks good to Louie P. and his boys...those types loike to go to conferences,retreats,outings etc and talk about the new stadium,all the money the AD is sitting on etc etc..watch and see if after the new stadium goes in if Rhoades and Brookhart don't make a quick exit...that is if JD lasts 2 more years... we are being PIMPED...

[zen]

we are being PIMPED...

as respectfully as this message can possibly be delivered:if you think YOU are getting PIMPED, then bow the fukk out and STFU.

[ZippyRulz]

The new stadium will fix everything. Tell me how it will not improve recruiting (talent/retention/depth) and therefore the results on the field. If JD does not win in the new stadium we will get someone who will when his contract is up. If you think we are going to buy him out and begin a coaching transition just as stadium construction gets underway then maybe *you* are drinking some koolaid. Mack isn't going to have time for all that. Yes, it's taking a long time to get where we want to be but the promised land is in sight...there's no point in freaking out now.

[RACER]

good points but will jd be here when the new stadium open.no matter who the coach is having the new stadium will help with recruiting,and attendance.i still think the new stadium will only help attendace for the first year.if the zips do not put a good product on the feild no one is going to see akron play late in the season in cold weather.especailly in a meaning less game.

[akronad]

We heard the same thing about the field house. It is best in the country and we will be able to recruit better thanever before.If that is the case, where are all of these stalwart recruits? Inquiring minds, want to know.

[uafan]

The new stadium will fix everything. Tell me how it will not improve recruiting (talent/retention/depth) and therefore the results on the field. If JD does not win in the new stadium we will get someone who will when his contract is up. If you think we are going to buy him out and begin a coaching transition just as stadium construction gets underway then maybe *you* are drinking some koolaid. Mack isn't going to have time for all that. Yes, it's taking a long time to get where we want to be but the promised land is in sight...there's no point in freaking out now.

I'm sorry, but a new stadium will fix nothing! Oh, attendance will be up for a season or two, but if the product on the field doesn't improve, the novelty of a new stadium will wear off quickly!

[RACER]

i really think that alott of the problem is the play calling.we are not power running team.we have some good wr in owens and j.arthur.why do they continue to try running up the middle and off tackle.in the first half of the temple game we played with an attack mentality by getting the ball to our wr,and running williams outside.jd tried to go to a power runnig game the second half.i still think this offense has the talent to score some points but the play calling is terrible.