The Hip Zip Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I have to admit that I'm not sure I have it in me but I hope Can't can beat St Mary's.A Can't win would make it very, very tough to not make the MAC a two bid conferenceafter we kick their butts in Cleveland. I hate Can't as much as the rest of you guys, buta couple of quality wins by us and them are very much needed by the MAC to have a prayerfor the extra bid.Go ahead, let me have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I have to admit that I'm not sure I have it in me but I hope Can't can beat St Mary's.A Can't win would make it very, very tough to not make the MAC a two bid conferenceafter we kick their butts in Cleveland. I hate Can't as much as the rest of you guys, buta couple of quality wins by us and them are very much needed by the MAC to have a prayerfor the extra bid.Go ahead, let me have it. In my opinion, you are correct. I think that you should always root for other teams in your conference when a win by them could do good for your conference rep (unless it was Miami in the tourney last year). Plus, a Can't win over St Mary's, and then the Flushes lose in the MAC Champ, one would have to wonder if they could get an at large berth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Hip Zip, I agree with you. However, we need to go a step or two further. An Akron win over VCU and an Ohio win over George Mason would considerablyimprove the overall MAC resume.I think Akron and Ohio need wins over their CAA opponents to enhance the NIT selection possibilities.Never, ever, thought I would be saying this, "Go Flushers beat Saint Mary's...!!!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Go St. Mary's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 It's my policy to root for every MAC team when thy play a non-conference foe. The RPI works by comparing teams' records, not other teams' RPIs. The better records MAC teams have, the better the conference RPI will be regardless of strength of schedule. Some teams don't understand this and constantly overschedule to inflate their RPI through playing lots of top teams, but then we end up having to play our conference teams with awful records, which can only hurt us and it doesn't matter who they played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I'm always rooting for the MAC against any non-mac. That's a no brainer. Go flushies! Some things never change though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Flight delays, turbulent air, lost luggage, bad food, double-overtime, bumps/bruises/tweaks, shoddy play the rest of the MAC season caused by the disruption in rhythm/focus a long trip like this can cause ... yeah, I can root for Can't again ... for a price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaglet1 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Let's make it easy so you don't have such a tough time saying it... GO MAC!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I hope K.e.n.t. loses by 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I hope K.e.n.t. loses by 50.I'll second that.I'm all for anything that improves the MAC and all, but I draw the line at rooting for Can't. You'll never see those hippies rooting for us the same way you'll never see OSU fans rooting for Michigan, Duke fans rooting for North Carolina and on and on and on. Why should I root for them??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 If Can't wins, good for the MAC!If Can't loses, good for Can't! I won't lose sleep either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 If Can't wins, good for the MAC!If Can't loses, good for Can't! I won't lose sleep either way.I have always rooted for any MAC team in out-of-conference competition. That said, I've seen St Mary's play, and they are definitely a top-25 team. K-e-n-t will be fortunate to stay within 20 on their floor. Anything else is California dreamin'! B)Now don't you wish you were here in the isles, and could get up to watch the game at the JAR at 6:00 a.m.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Sure, there is some benefit to a Can't victory. It helps the conference. But, although we want the conference to get better, do we really want Can't to get better? We don't want a situation where they start to "appear" that they have a better program than us. That kind of stuff can have long-term effects on us. Plus, I just can't root for someone that I consider an enemy the other 364 days a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 I hope K.e.n.t. loses by 50.Agreed. You all might want to consider that if Can't wins then they will be the MAC team getting the at large bid to the tourney (assuming they dont win the MAC title). That would put a school that is just miles away from us in the NCAA and probably drawing recruits to them. With all of the JUCO transfers they have all it will take is one bad class for them to suck. That would be much more fun than a two bid MAC this year. Screw Can't. I hope the Gaels destroy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00t Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 If Can't wins today it's good for one team, and one team ONLY... Can't. The rest of the MAC would not profit one iota from Can't winning, this season, or in the future. This season, Can't is the only team in the MAC with a prayer of getting an at-large bid, so if any other MAC team wants to dance, they still have to win at the Q. Next season, no one is going to remember who won the "runner-up" to the marquee matchup in the BracketBuster. If anything, Can't's success makes Akron's recruiting that much more difficult. I hope they are thoroughly embarrassed by St. Mary's and I don't understand how any Akron fan could be cheering for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaglet1 Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 If Can't wins today it's good for one team, and one team ONLY... Can't. The rest of the MAC would not profit one iota from Can't winning, this season, or in the future.I couldnt disagree more. It helps every team that has beat Can't, and those who will beat them. Can't gets a win at St. Mary's and their RPI goes up to the mid 30s (they are 39 as of this morning). So should the Zips win their re-match, it would help the Zips. Not for an at-large, but for seeding in the tourny. A win over a top 40 team could bump them up a seed line... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 The same fans on the board who claim OSU ruins things for us are rooting for Can't?? The school is minutes away from us, and every bit of success they get is bad for us. It takes away media attention. It takes away recruits. It wouldn't bother me one bit if Can't dropped sports all together. With that said, I hope they get destroyed today on national tv. Of course, the only thing bad when Can't loses is it lessens the chance of Christian leaving the school. But anyway, Go Gaels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgm405 Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 The same fans on the board who claim OSU ruins things for us are rooting for Can't?? The school is minutes away from us, and every bit of success they get is bad for us. It takes away media attention. It takes away recruits. It wouldn't bother me one bit if Can't dropped sports all together. With that said, I hope they get destroyed today on national tv. Of course, the only thing bad when Can't loses is it lessens the chance of Christian leaving the school. But anyway, Go Gaels!My thoughts exactly...excellent post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 The same fans on the board who claim OSU ruins things for us are rooting for Can't?? The school is minutes away from us, and every bit of success they get is bad for us. It takes away media attention. It takes away recruits. It wouldn't bother me one bit if Can't dropped sports all together. With that said, I hope they get destroyed today on national tv. Of course, the only thing bad when Can't loses is it lessens the chance of Christian leaving the school. But anyway, Go Gaels!Sanity, thy name is zipsbandman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00t Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 It helps every team that has beat Can't, and those who will beat them.Helps them what? Pat themselves harder on the back? Any team in the MAC could win out all the way to the MAC Finals... and if they don't win on March 15th, they will play in the NIT (if they're lucky). Saying that the (one) MAC team that makes the tournament might get a higher seed because Can't beat St. Mary's is really reaching... and too high a price to pay to see Can't look good anyway. Not to mention... it's Can't for crying out loud. I've said it before, this is why we're small potatoes, we actually have fans who cheer for our rival in the name of "making the conference look good". To hell with the MAC, go SMU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 The same fans on the board who claim OSU ruins things for us are rooting for Can't?? The school is minutes away from us, and every bit of success they get is bad for us. It takes away media attention. It takes away recruits. It wouldn't bother me one bit if Can't dropped sports all together. With that said, I hope they get destroyed today on national tv. Of course, the only thing bad when Can't loses is it lessens the chance of Christian leaving the school. But anyway, Go Gaels! ya know...IF or when KD starts doing here what Waters,Christian et al have done at Can't, then we won't have to worry about this stuff will we?.. face it... in b.ball Can't has the hammer!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 The same fans on the board who claim OSU ruins things for us are rooting for Can't?? The school is minutes away from us, and every bit of success they get is bad for us. It takes away media attention. It takes away recruits. It wouldn't bother me one bit if Can't dropped sports all together. With that said, I hope they get destroyed today on national tv. Of course, the only thing bad when Can't loses is it lessens the chance of Christian leaving the school. But anyway, Go Gaels! ya know...IF or when KD starts doing here what Waters,Christian et al have done at Can't, then we won't have to worry about this stuff will we?.. face it... in b.ball Can't has the hammer!!! :screwks: :screwks: :screwks: :screwks: :screwks: and so does Lee Owens...er Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Can't State 65St. Mary's 57Can't shot 47.9% (23 of 48) from the field while SMC shot a pretty dismal 32.8% (21-64). Can't was 4 of 8 from 3-pt land ... SMC was 3 of 16. SMC seemed to win most of the stat categories(STATS), they just didn't shoot the ball very well. SMC missed a LOT of bunnies in the first half (I fell asleep at half-time). I'm sure Can't playing in-your-shorts defense had something to do with SMC's poor shooting. but, like it or not, they are the class of the MAC in men's basketball. I wonder if Jim Christian can reproduce what he's done at Can't at the next level? Just wondering ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I feel a sweep is in our future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I have always rooted for any MAC team in out-of-conference competition. That said, I've seen St Mary's play, and they are definitely a top-25 team. K-e-n-t will be fortunate to stay within 20 on their floor. Anything else is California dreamin'! B)Now don't you wish you were here in the isles, and could get up to watch the game at the JAR at 6:00 a.m.? Holy smokes flush-man! Apparently K-ent got incredibly fortunate, to meet the Gaels on their only off-shooting night of the season, and to have that guy go off the way he did on the far road. I encourage you all to attend the St Mary's-Can't game down the road next fall. They will be back in the top-25, and I favor them to beat out Gonzaga for the WCC title in San Diego. But meanwhile props to our friends from Portage County for one of their biggest wins in years. It makes me proud to be from the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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