Vent Here

[sgm405]

I have a lot on my mind, which I'm sure many of us do...so how bout a vent thread?My random thoughts...- Didn't like starting Goddard and Quade...in a game that seems to always come down to the last 2 or 3 possessions, you can't afford to have any with guys who don't belong out there. - Nick Dials' emotion is both good and bad...sometimes it fires up the team and others ride off of it...other times it seems to take him out of his own game.- Jim Christian absolutely, positively outcoached Keith Dambrot tonight. The Zips go to Wood, who draws a foul on Hammin, who is forced to go to the bench...and instead of taking advantage of this, out comes Wood and in comes Bardo, who is completely terrified to shoot. This, to go along with endless subs and a refusal to make adjustments until it was too late cost the Zips a lot tonight. - I won't say they cost Akron the game - Akron's shooting percentage did - but the referees were once again terrible tonight. They go from calling nothing, to calling EVERYTHING, to just making unbelievably bad calls that leave you shaking your head...MAC officials are pretty terrible overall, that's for sure. - In a matter of weeks I've gone from thinking Steve McNees is the next big thing at Akron to grimacing when he checks in. Hopefully he'll work on working with the ball under pressure before next year. - Is anyone else absolutely driven up the wall by Can't State fans' refusal to come up with something original? They go with "We are...Can't State" (stolen), "K-S-U" (generic), and "Screw the Roo" (a lame response to our original slogan)...just drives me up the wall.- Classy move by the Can't State students chanting "K-S-U" during our senior night introductions...can't these morons show a little bit of sense even once or twice? You just don't do that...- Count me in as one who thinks Can't doesn't deserve an at-large bid. Are they really better (at this point) than Akron was last year? And have they really beat that many top notch opponents? They should get consideration, but it should be NIT for them if they don't win the Tourney. - Tell me the AK-Rowdies purposely spelled "Throw" wrong, putting "Thow" instead...tell me it was an inside joke I didn't know about...please...- The guy who fires the crowd up is pretty amazing at doing that...he can really get people going...on the flip side, the "blind referee" thing is wayyyy played out...almost as bad as "You can't do that"- What Akron takes from this loss may tell how we go into the MAC Tourney...Thought Process #1 would be that they shot like crap, dealt with poor officiating, turned the ball over, got outrebounded - basically played the worst game of the year - and only lost by 3. Or Thought Process #2, two losses to Can't, going into the tournament off of an embarrassing performance, nothing seemingly going right. - Here's hoping for a big run starting Thursday...3 games left for all the marbles...let's do it this year. GO ZIPS!

[Marty McFly]

I have a lot on my mind, which I'm sure many of us do...so how bout a vent thread?My random thoughts...- Didn't like starting Goddard and Quade...in a game that seems to always come down to the last 2 or 3 possessions, you can't afford to have any with guys who don't belong out there. - Nick Dials' emotion is both good and bad...sometimes it fires up the team and others ride off of it...other times it seems to take him out of his own game.- Jim Christian absolutely, positively outcoached Keith Dambrot tonight. The Zips go to Wood, who draws a foul on Hammin, who is forced to go to the bench...and instead of taking advantage of this, out comes Wood and in comes Bardo, who is completely terrified to shoot. This, to go along with endless subs and a refusal to make adjustments until it was too late cost the Zips a lot tonight. - I won't say they cost Akron the game - Akron's shooting percentage did - but the referees were once again terrible tonight. They go from calling nothing, to calling EVERYTHING, to just making unbelievably bad calls that leave you shaking your head...MAC officials are pretty terrible overall, that's for sure. - In a matter of weeks I've gone from thinking Steve McNees is the next big thing at Akron to grimacing when he checks in. Hopefully he'll work on working with the ball under pressure before next year. - Is anyone else absolutely driven up the wall by Can't State fans' refusal to come up with something original? They go with "We are...Can't State" (stolen), "K-S-U" (generic), and "Screw the Roo" (a lame response to our original slogan)...just drives me up the wall.- Classy move by the Can't State students chanting "K-S-U" during our senior night introductions...can't these morons show a little bit of sense even once or twice? You just don't do that...- Count me in as one who thinks Can't doesn't deserve an at-large bid. Are they really better (at this point) than Akron was last year? And have they really beat that many top notch opponents? They should get consideration, but it should be NIT for them if they don't win the Tourney. - Tell me the AK-Rowdies purposely spelled "Throw" wrong, putting "Thow" instead...tell me it was an inside joke I didn't know about...please...- The guy who fires the crowd up is pretty amazing at doing that...he can really get people going...on the flip side, the "blind referee" thing is wayyyy played out...almost as bad as "You can't do that"- What Akron takes from this loss may tell how we go into the MAC Tourney...Thought Process #1 would be that they shot like crap, dealt with poor officiating, turned the ball over, got outrebounded - basically played the worst game of the year - and only lost by 3. Or Thought Process #2, two losses to Can't, going into the tournament off of an embarrassing performance, nothing seemingly going right. - Here's hoping for a big run starting Thursday...3 games left for all the marbles...let's do it this year. GO ZIPS!

I think that it call comes down to the fact that for 37-38 minutes, Can't State totally outplayed Akron. The last 2-3 minutes were totally Akron, and had the Zips won, they would have had NO business winning this game.I agree with the comment about McNees, he is still learning how to handle the point, especially in big game situations, but at a cost this year.Correct me if I am wrong, but Linhart and Quade played, right? For seniors, they did a whole lot of nothing when they were out there.Starting to like D Roberts more and more every game. During that first half of sloppiness and timidness, he seemed to be one of the lone Zips actually taking at Can't.Seemed to me like Akron couldnt handle the physicalness of Can't's defense. The tone was set early when the refs let BOTH teams play, and Akron, in my opnion, couldn't handle it, got frustrated and forced THEMSELVES to stay outside and force up bad shots, thus leading to a terrible shooting percentage.Can't's guards are quick, and you would think that somewhere along the way, KD would have figured out that the high pick at the top of the keys WASN'T WORKING.Even more classy than Can't students chanting senior night intro's was them chanting towards the end of the National Anthem. UGH!Love the guy emcee guy. It was hard not to get pumped up there at the end, with the Akron rally, him and The Final Countdown being played.All in all, I think Can't came ready to play, and for the excception of them letting their guard for the last 2 minutes, they deserved to win. No if, ands or buts about it.But I also think that they have a tougher road to Saturday night than we do!!!

[Z-Pouch]

- The guy who fires the crowd up is pretty amazing at doing that...he can really get people going...on the flip side, the "blind referee" thing is wayyyy played out...almost as bad as "You can't do that"

The guy on the court with a mic does a great job. I hope he is not graduating soon and if he is - Hire him. He's done a heck of a job all year with the contests and getting the crowd into the game.

[w00t]

The guy on the court with a mic does a great job. I hope he is not graduating soon and if he is - Hire him. He's done a heck of a job all year with the contests and getting the crowd into the game.

Couldn't agree more.

[bUAkronG]

I have a lot on my mind, which I'm sure many of us do...so how bout a vent thread?My random thoughts...- Didn't like starting Goddard and Quade...in a game that seems to always come down to the last 2 or 3 possessions, you can't afford to have any with guys who don't belong out there. - Nick Dials' emotion is both good and bad...sometimes it fires up the team and others ride off of it...other times it seems to take him out of his own game.- Jim Christian absolutely, positively outcoached Keith Dambrot tonight. The Zips go to Wood, who draws a foul on Hammin, who is forced to go to the bench...and instead of taking advantage of this, out comes Wood and in comes Bardo, who is completely terrified to shoot. This, to go along with endless subs and a refusal to make adjustments until it was too late cost the Zips a lot tonight. - I won't say they cost Akron the game - Akron's shooting percentage did - but the referees were once again terrible tonight. They go from calling nothing, to calling EVERYTHING, to just making unbelievably bad calls that leave you shaking your head...MAC officials are pretty terrible overall, that's for sure. - In a matter of weeks I've gone from thinking Steve McNees is the next big thing at Akron to grimacing when he checks in. Hopefully he'll work on working with the ball under pressure before next year. - Is anyone else absolutely driven up the wall by Can't State fans' refusal to come up with something original? They go with "We are...Can't State" (stolen), "K-S-U" (generic), and "Screw the Roo" (a lame response to our original slogan)...just drives me up the wall.- Classy move by the Can't State students chanting "K-S-U" during our senior night introductions...can't these morons show a little bit of sense even once or twice? You just don't do that...- Count me in as one who thinks Can't doesn't deserve an at-large bid. Are they really better (at this point) than Akron was last year? And have they really beat that many top notch opponents? They should get consideration, but it should be NIT for them if they don't win the Tourney. - Tell me the AK-Rowdies purposely spelled "Throw" wrong, putting "Thow" instead...tell me it was an inside joke I didn't know about...please...- The guy who fires the crowd up is pretty amazing at doing that...he can really get people going...on the flip side, the "blind referee" thing is wayyyy played out...almost as bad as "You can't do that"- What Akron takes from this loss may tell how we go into the MAC Tourney...Thought Process #1 would be that they shot like crap, dealt with poor officiating, turned the ball over, got outrebounded - basically played the worst game of the year - and only lost by 3. Or Thought Process #2, two losses to Can't, going into the tournament off of an embarrassing performance, nothing seemingly going right. - Here's hoping for a big run starting Thursday...3 games left for all the marbles...let's do it this year. GO ZIPS!

couldn't agree more. Except for the rebounds. Believe it or not, according to ESPN.com we were equal with 32 rebounds, although I bet 16 of them came in the last 5 minutes.And I agree but I think Will is graduating. I could be wrong. He used to be my RA until he moved elsewhere. Needless to say I take pleasure in saying "hey he used to be my RA" when he steps on the floor lol

[Quickzips]

Agreed that Goddard and Quade had no buisness starting tonight. It allowed Can't to set the tone early right in the first two minutes. Go take a look at Quantince's first bucket. Quade gets hopelessly out of position and then Goddard comes over for a weak and hopeless helpout and in goes the easy Can't layup. I know it's senior night, but you play to win the game. There is no obligation made to guys coming into the program that no matter who they are they get to start their last home game. Put the 5 guys on the floor that give you the best chance to win. Goddard and Quade aren't two of those guys.I have no problem with Dials emotion. I've honestly never seen it hurt the Zips that much. I love the kid and he's done a heck of a job here, but I can't say I won't be relieved to see someone (hopefully Humpty or Sullivan) with a little more athleticism taking over his minutes. Dials got owned on both ends of the floor by Fisher all night b/c Fisher is just flat out too athletic for him. I thought KD made some very nice halftime adjustments and got the team more or less settled down in the 2nd half. I don't think Christian outcoached KD for one minute. Christian has a more talented, more athletic team that should run us off the floor every night. The fact that we made a comeback shows me that KD has these kids coached up and in the right frame of mind.Please just stop with the tired old blame the refs game. We went to the FT line nearly twice as much as Can't did and the bad calls went both ways. Blaming the officials is a cheap and unneccessary way to get around the fact that we lost to a better team.McNees is what he is. He's a streak shooter who can play decent defense at times and run the point in spurts. You've got to utilize him almost like you do Quade. If he's on his game keep him in there and ride him as long as you can. If he's not you need to really limit his minutes or he will hurt you.As for the fans and whatnot, well I can't say a whole lot b/c I watched this one from home.

[sgm405]

Please just stop with the tired old blame the refs game. We went to the FT line nearly twice as much as Can't did and the bad calls went both ways. Blaming the officials is a cheap and unneccessary way to get around the fact that we lost to a better team.

Ummmm nope, I won't. It was apparent to every Akron or non-partisan fan in attendance. They bumped, they slapped, they swatted, they reached and more often than not, nothing was called. I won't bring it up if it doesn't happen.

[ZippyRulz]

Dials needs to trade some emotion for some shooting accuracy. Hitting 3 of 16 in a big game equals a loss. This team just doesn't have enough consistent scoring depth to help each other out. We'll see the same strategy at the Q...key on Wood and dare us to not stink it up from the outside.

[zippy5]

Dials needs to trade some emotion for some shooting accuracy. Hitting 3 of 16 in a big game equals a loss. This team just doesn't have enough consistent scoring depth to help each other out. We'll see the same strategy at the Q...key on Wood and dare us to not stink it up from the outside.

If J-Wood can go off for 23 again while they "key" on him, I'm all for it.

[Quickzips]

Please just stop with the tired old blame the refs game. We went to the FT line nearly twice as much as Can't did and the bad calls went both ways. Blaming the officials is a cheap and unneccessary way to get around the fact that we lost to a better team.

Ummmm nope, I won't. It was apparent to every Akron or non-partisan fan in attendance. They bumped, they slapped, they swatted, they reached and more often than not, nothing was called. I won't bring it up if it doesn't happen.

Everyone in the MAC knows the refs are horrible. Heck NIU's coach got escorted off the floor by the cops today from some of the bad calls. Fact of the matter is that it isn't going to change. The MAC isn't going to fire all of their refs and bring in an entirely new group just for the tournament. Unless you've got some kind of proof that the fix was in and the refs were purposely and consciously setting the game up for Akron to lose (I don't think you do) then you just look like a whiny cry baby.

[sgm405]

Please just stop with the tired old blame the refs game. We went to the FT line nearly twice as much as Can't did and the bad calls went both ways. Blaming the officials is a cheap and unneccessary way to get around the fact that we lost to a better team.

Ummmm nope, I won't. It was apparent to every Akron or non-partisan fan in attendance. They bumped, they slapped, they swatted, they reached and more often than not, nothing was called. I won't bring it up if it doesn't happen.

Everyone in the MAC knows the refs are horrible. Heck NIU's coach got escorted off the floor by the cops today from some of the bad calls. Fact of the matter is that it isn't going to change. The MAC isn't going to fire all of their refs and bring in an entirely new group just for the tournament. Unless you've got some kind of proof that the fix was in and the refs were purposely and consciously setting the game up for Akron to lose (I don't think you do) then you just look like a whiny cry baby.

Well if you want to think that that's what I am, you can. The officiating was terrible. I never said the "fix was in", they were just terrible. Period. And no, it's not going to change if I complain about it, but hey, did you miss the title of the thread? VENT...not protest, not call for anyone to get fired...VENT...they called a horrible game that came down to one possession, which leads me to get angry, thinking about what might have been. So what do I do? Vent!

[skip-zip]

My girlfriend calls the guy that comes out during timeouts "Akron's Ryan Seacrest". I think that's pretty funny.I don't think Dials' intensity affects his play. I love how he gets the crowd going.As far as the refs go...I just still don't understand how Can't can block shots while hitting with the body. And Akron cannot. Both games were called the same way with this call. It's a call that needs to be consistent, and it is not.I'm also a little puzzled by McNees' lack of development.That starting lineup decision might have been a big mistake. It clearly cost of us continuity for the first couple of minutes of the game, and set the tone for the first half.The people I was sitting with clearly remember a Hamin foul getting changed, and one later that should have been called against him, and got put on someone else. He had 7 fouls tonight. Not to mention the blocked shots where he runs over someone while swatting with his arm. Unbelievable. That's a foul anywhere in college basketball.McFly....Roberts had 4 turnovers, and scored no points on 0-4 shooting. You seem to be impresed with him, but other than his speed defensively, he really hurt us tonight. But...McFly....I also heard the idiot yell out during the national anthem....yet another typical Can't State move.

[SoFlaZip]

Rambling Thoughts Enough of the pissing and moaning. The Zips LOSS to a better TEAM - themself, with the focus on team not players.Can't did not out play Akron the first 38 minutes. Can't outplayed Akron the first 10 - 15 minutes. Akron played even with and/or outplayed Can't the last 25-30 minutes. It's just the hole Akron dug for themselves was so damn deep.Christian did not out coach Coach K. Coach K out coached Christian. Coach K did not miss one free throw, did not force one shot, did not create one unforced turnover. Still, he kept the team in the game with solid DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE until the final 2 seconds. With the quality of players Can't has, Can't should not have had to rely on a last second shot to win if the coaching was that good.Coack K is a genius. How else can you describe him given the program's success acheiving upper echelon mid-level status ( I think that's how he described his goal ) with a disportionate number of marginal - at best- mid-level players. That fact alone is evidence of his genius.Bardo is potentially the stud in the middle I've been ranting about for the past five years. If he can developes a consistent low post shot (hook) and focuses on rebounding, setting picks (Hard Picks)and shot blocking-yes you heard it here first, he could possibly play at the next level by the end of his senior year. McNeese - BubbaBret. Potentially, no, first team all MAC as a soph.With BRET, Bardo, a guard who not only can shoot threes but is not afraid to putumup, and the appropriate complimentary pieces, the Zips are going to be a force to recon with for the next three years.Linhart - BubbaIf the Zips get past the semis they will win the MAC.DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE

[zippy5]

I'm sick.I can't think of a more heartbreaking way to lose a game.that's all, great effort guys, never say never, we'll see those hippies in Cleveland.

[zipfan 81]

I have a lot on my mind, which I'm sure many of us do...so how bout a vent thread?My random thoughts...- Didn't like starting Goddard and Quade...in a game that seems to always come down to the last 2 or 3 possessions, you can't afford to have any with guys who don't belong out there. - Nick Dials' emotion is both good and bad...sometimes it fires up the team and others ride off of it...other times it seems to take him out of his own game.- Jim Christian absolutely, positively outcoached Keith Dambrot tonight. The Zips go to Wood, who draws a foul on Hammin, who is forced to go to the bench...and instead of taking advantage of this, out comes Wood and in comes Bardo, who is completely terrified to shoot. This, to go along with endless subs and a refusal to make adjustments until it was too late cost the Zips a lot tonight. - I won't say they cost Akron the game - Akron's shooting percentage did - but the referees were once again terrible tonight. They go from calling nothing, to calling EVERYTHING, to just making unbelievably bad calls that leave you shaking your head...MAC officials are pretty terrible overall, that's for sure. - In a matter of weeks I've gone from thinking Steve McNees is the next big thing at Akron to grimacing when he checks in. Hopefully he'll work on working with the ball under pressure before next year. - Is anyone else absolutely driven up the wall by Can't State fans' refusal to come up with something original? They go with "We are...Can't State" (stolen), "K-S-U" (generic), and "Screw the Roo" (a lame response to our original slogan)...just drives me up the wall.- Classy move by the Can't State students chanting "K-S-U" during our senior night introductions...can't these morons show a little bit of sense even once or twice? You just don't do that...- Count me in as one who thinks Can't doesn't deserve an at-large bid. Are they really better (at this point) than Akron was last year? And have they really beat that many top notch opponents? They should get consideration, but it should be NIT for them if they don't win the Tourney. - Tell me the AK-Rowdies purposely spelled "Throw" wrong, putting "Thow" instead...tell me it was an inside joke I didn't know about...please...- The guy who fires the crowd up is pretty amazing at doing that...he can really get people going...on the flip side, the "blind referee" thing is wayyyy played out...almost as bad as "You can't do that"- What Akron takes from this loss may tell how we go into the MAC Tourney...Thought Process #1 would be that they shot like crap, dealt with poor officiating, turned the ball over, got outrebounded - basically played the worst game of the year - and only lost by 3. Or Thought Process #2, two losses to Can't, going into the tournament off of an embarrassing performance, nothing seemingly going right. - Here's hoping for a big run starting Thursday...3 games left for all the marbles...let's do it this year. GO ZIPS!

I think that it call comes down to the fact that for 37-38 minutes, Can't State totally outplayed Akron. The last 2-3 minutes were totally Akron, and had the Zips won, they would have had NO business winning this game.I agree with the comment about McNees, he is still learning how to handle the point, especially in big game situations, but at a cost this year.Correct me if I am wrong, but Linhart and Quade played, right? For seniors, they did a whole lot of nothing when they were out there.Starting to like D Roberts more and more every game. During that first half of sloppiness and timidness, he seemed to be one of the lone Zips actually taking at Can't.Seemed to me like Akron couldnt handle the physicalness of Can't's defense. The tone was set early when the refs let BOTH teams play, and Akron, in my opnion, couldn't handle it, got frustrated and forced THEMSELVES to stay outside and force up bad shots, thus leading to a terrible shooting percentage.Can't's guards are quick, and you would think that somewhere along the way, KD would have figured out that the high pick at the top of the keys WASN'T WORKING.Even more classy than Can't students chanting senior night intro's was them chanting towards the end of the National Anthem. UGH!Love the guy emcee guy. It was hard not to get pumped up there at the end, with the Akron rally, him and The Final Countdown being played.All in all, I think Can't came ready to play, and for the excception of them letting their guard for the last 2 minutes, they deserved to win. No if, ands or buts about it.But I also think that they have a tougher road to Saturday night than we do!!!

FYI Darell Roberts was 0-4 with 4 turnovers, I don't think he should be out there in this kind of game just yet.

[skip-zip]

I'm glad other people saw the problems with Roberts tonight. And McNees seems ill-equipped, right now, to help us in these kinds of games, with a lot of quick athletes out there. This forced Dials to play way too many minutes at the point this year, and kept us from being as good a team as we could have been. I'm hoping we can get it together and win this tournament for some redepemption, but I am afraid we might have some lean times ahead of us next year.SoFlaZip...you definitely win the ultimate optimist award. Bardo will develop into NBA talent, and Brett M. will be one of the best players in the MAC his sophomore year?...wow. You must have been drinking last night like the rest of us.

[zipfan 81]

Agreed that Goddard and Quade had no buisness starting tonight. It allowed Can't to set the tone early right in the first two minutes. Go take a look at Quantince's first bucket. Quade gets hopelessly out of position and then Goddard comes over for a weak and hopeless helpout and in goes the easy Can't layup. I know it's senior night, but you play to win the game. There is no obligation made to guys coming into the program that no matter who they are they get to start their last home game. Put the 5 guys on the floor that give you the best chance to win. Goddard and Quade aren't two of those guys.

I would not call that a layup, that would be a dunk and Goddard went right up with him, weak and hopeless would of been just stand there and watch it. Again Goddard/Milum had nothing to do with the 1-20 at the three. Don't blame two guys for the teams shooting the whole night. Seriously did they make turnovers, miss shots, no, hell they didn't take a shot. Look elsewhere, I know you are trying to blame something, someone, but this game was over before it began.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I'm sick.I can't think of a more heartbreaking way to lose a game.

Zips fans are so S-P-O-I-L-E-D!!! At least that's what someone told me a couple weeks ago...

[GoZips88]

Agreed that Goddard and Quade had no buisness starting tonight. It allowed Can't to set the tone early right in the first two minutes. Go take a look at Quantince's first bucket. Quade gets hopelessly out of position and then Goddard comes over for a weak and hopeless helpout and in goes the easy Can't layup. I know it's senior night, but you play to win the game. There is no obligation made to guys coming into the program that no matter who they are they get to start their last home game. Put the 5 guys on the floor that give you the best chance to win. Goddard and Quade aren't two of those guys.

I would not call that a layup, that would be a dunk and Goddard went right up with him, weak and hopeless would of been just stand there and watch it. Again Goddard/Milum had nothing to do with the 1-20 at the three. Don't blame two guys for the teams shooting the whole night. Seriously did they make turnovers, miss shots, no, hell they didn't take a shot. Look elsewhere, I know you are trying to blame something, someone, but this game was over before it began.

If I remember right, Milum air-balled a wide open three attempt, was yanked and never seen again. Pretty poor senior year overall for Milum - too bad since there seemed to be a fair amount of optimism over the years about his POTENTIAL to develop into a pretty good player. MIA in really big games.Dambrot has class and started the five seniors AND left them in beyond the first opportunity he had to sub for one or more of them. A great way to thank those guys for all of the effort they've given over the years in support of the program. That being said, I have no class and would have started the five guys who would have given me the best chance to win on our home court against our arch rival and best team in the MAC. The fans ultimately got their money's worth but it's too bad we dug ourselves such a deep hole. Don't know if playing our true starters those first few minutes of the game would have changed much overall but I wouldn't have taken any chances in a game like that. I know the game didn't matter a lick as we head to Cleveland but it's Can't on our court and I would have done all I could to get the 'W.' Signed "Classless."Love our bracket and the new season that begins Thursday afternoon - GO ZIPS !!!!!!!!!

[zipfan 81]

If I remember right, Milum air-balled a wide open three attempt, was yanked and never seen again. Pretty poor senior year overall for Milum - too bad since there seemed to be a fair amount of optimism over the years about his POTENTIAL to develop into a pretty good player. MIA in really big games.Dambrot has class and started the five seniors AND left them in beyond the first opportunity he had to sub for one or more of them. A great way to thank those guys for all of the effort they've given over the years in support of the program. That being said, I have no class and would have started the five guys who would have given me the best chance to win on our home court against our arch rival and best team in the MAC. The fans ultimately got their money's worth but it's too bad we dug ourselves such a deep hole. Don't know if playing our true starters those first few minutes of the game would have changed much overall but I wouldn't have taken any chances in a game like that. I know the game didn't matter a lick as we head to Cleveland but it's Can't on our court and I would have done all I could to get the 'W.' Signed "Classless."Love our bracket and the new season that begins Thursday afternoon - GO ZIPS !!!!!!!!! 19:47 0-2 V 2 GOOD! LAYUP by QUAINTANCE, Haminn [PNT] 19:47 ASSIST by FISHER, AlMISSED 3 PTR by DIALS, Nick 19:22 REBOUND (DEF) by SCOTT, MikeREBOUND (DEF) by WOOD, Jeremiah 19:03 MISSED 3 PTR by SINGLETARY, ChrisMISSED LAYUP by WOOD, Jeremiah 18:48 REBOUND (DEF) by SCOTT, MikeFOUL by GODDARD, Nick (P1T1) 18:43 18:33 TURNOVR by SINGLETARY, ChrisMISSED LAYUP by DIALS, Nick 18:13REBOUND (OFF) by DIALS, Nick 18:13TURNOVR by (TEAM) 17:57 17:41 0-4 V 4 GOOD! DUNK by QUAINTANCE, Haminn [PNT] 17:41 ASSIST by SINGLETARY, ChrisSUB IN : LINHART, Nate 17:29SUB IN : McKNIGHT, Chris 17:29SUB OUT: GODDARD, Nick 17:29SUB OUT: MILUM, Quade Quade did not airball a 3 in the beginning, however, he did later in the game as did alot of other zips unfortunately. Just not a good shooting night for the zips. Look at the stats, anyone stand out tonite beside Jeremiah? Maybe Brett McKnight, just a nasty game until the last 2 minutes.

[Quickzips]

Agreed that Goddard and Quade had no buisness starting tonight. It allowed Can't to set the tone early right in the first two minutes. Go take a look at Quantince's first bucket. Quade gets hopelessly out of position and then Goddard comes over for a weak and hopeless helpout and in goes the easy Can't layup. I know it's senior night, but you play to win the game. There is no obligation made to guys coming into the program that no matter who they are they get to start their last home game. Put the 5 guys on the floor that give you the best chance to win. Goddard and Quade aren't two of those guys.

I would not call that a layup, that would be a dunk and Goddard went right up with him, weak and hopeless would of been just stand there and watch it. Again Goddard/Milum had nothing to do with the 1-20 at the three. Don't blame two guys for the teams shooting the whole night. Seriously did they make turnovers, miss shots, no, hell they didn't take a shot. Look elsewhere, I know you are trying to blame something, someone, but this game was over before it began.

Q's 2nd shot was the dunk to put them to 4-0. His first one was an easy layup. FSN showed it about 6-8 times during the course of the game. I saw the same thing every time. Q gets the ball inside. Milum is horribly out of position. Goddard comes over for a weak, late helpout. Easy layin for Q.

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My girlfriend calls the guy that comes out during timeouts "Akron's Ryan Seacrest". I think that's pretty funny.I don't think Dials' intensity affects his play. I love how he gets the crowd going.As far as the refs go...I just still don't understand how Can't can block shots while hitting with the body. And Akron cannot. Both games were called the same way with this call. It's a call that needs to be consistent, and it is not.I'm also a little puzzled by McNees' lack of development.That starting lineup decision might have been a big mistake. It clearly cost of us continuity for the first couple of minutes of the game, and set the tone for the first half.The people I was sitting with clearly remember a Hamin foul getting changed, and one later that should have been called against him, and got put on someone else. He had 7 fouls tonight. Not to mention the blocked shots where he runs over someone while swatting with his arm. Unbelievable. That's a foul anywhere in college basketball.McFly....Roberts had 4 turnovers, and scored no points on 0-4 shooting. You seem to be impresed with him, but other than his speed defensively, he really hurt us tonight. But...McFly....I also heard the idiot yell out during the national anthem....yet another typical Can't State move.

AN idiot?! As in one?! The whole of the Can't State fans on the South East side of the JAR yelled out during the National Anthem. I don't see how that hasn't been mentioned more. That was as uncalled for as anything could be, what happened to America where nowadays a group of people disrespect our national anthem and no one says a thing or boo or anything?it's sickening

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zipfan81...I'm sorry, but where is anyone saying that we blame Quade or Goddard for our 1-20 3-point shooting? In fact, I don't believe Quade or Goddard are getting blamed for anything. We are questioning the idea of using an odd starting lineup, without our best players, and how that affected our play right out the gate. Which, if you look at it, ultimately became a stretch of the game that we spent the remainder of the game trying to dig ourselves out of.GoZips88...I love our bracket too. That was the right place to be. Can't will likely now have to play OU in the semifinal, which is the most dangerous team in the league with the inside guys they have, and when their guards are having an "on" night. Akron, on the other hand, gets WMU in the semis, playing a LONG way from home on an unfamiliar court. We'll have an advantage over NIU or CMU in the quarterfinals for the same reason. I don't like the idea of playing so many teams that have beaten us, but the alternative was playing some very dangerous teams, many of which we already had two wins against this year. That's usually not good.

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The truth is Can't was the better team yesterday as they were the better team when we played them at their place. The refs blaming and crying has got to stop as it can go both ways. We got robbed in a couple of plays but we had some calls go our way too. The refs could have easily called the triple team in the last 15 seconds a foul instead of a steal by cedrick, but they didn't. The refs were not perfect but also not biased, they didn't effect the outcome of the game so let's not blame every loss on the refs.I honestly thought that can't wanted it more than us. You add that to the fact that they had a better talent on their roster and KD should get the credit for keeping the game as close as it was. Hammin dominated in the middle and limited J-wood who was still our best player. We didn't have any one who could match up with Al Fisher, not even come close. He was beating cedrick by at least a step to the hoop and cedrick is our fastest player. Let alone Fisher's poise and confidence to make the last basket where no one could guard him. Just like Penno.Chris Singletary, Sherman Rodriguez, underclassmen who can both come in and contribute minutes, points, rebounds, and defense. B. McKnight was the only underclassman who showed up to play yesterday. Heck even Linhart was a non-factor.You can say that Christian recruits JUCO, you can talk about his players' character, and how the flushes continuously get in trouble with the law all you want, the fact remains that Christian is putting a great team on the floor year in year out. Look at us on the other side, we have players who have been on scholarship for 2 years (Bardo, McNeese, C. McKnight) and even 3 years (Conyears) and we still cannot get much from them in our big games. And the sad thing is that this year is not our reloading year, next year is.Let's hope that the threes fall down at the Q and that next year's class include some immediate contributors.

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The truth is Can't was the better team yesterday as they were the better team when we played them at their place. The refs blaming and crying has got to stop as it can go both ways. We got robbed in a couple of plays but we had some calls go our way too. The refs could have easily called the triple team in the last 15 seconds a foul instead of a steal by cedrick, but they didn't. The refs were not perfect but also not biased, they didn't effect the outcome of the game so let's not blame every loss on the refs.I honestly thought that can't wanted it more than us. You add that to the fact that they had a better talent on their roster and KD should get the credit for keeping the game as close as it was. Hammin dominated in the middle and limited J-wood who was still our best player. We didn't have any one who could match up with Al Fisher, not even come close. He was beating cedrick by at least a step to the hoop and cedrick is our fastest player. Let alone Fisher's poise and confidence to make the last basket where no one could guard him. Just like Penno.Chris Singletary, Sherman Rodriguez, underclassmen who can both come in and contribute minutes, points, rebounds, and defense. B. McKnight was the only underclassman who showed up to play yesterday. Heck even Linhart was a non-factor.You can say that Christian recruits JUCO, you can talk about his players' character, and how the flushes continuously get in trouble with the law all you want, the fact remains that Christian is putting a great team on the floor year in year out. Look at us on the other side, we have players who have been on scholarship for 2 years (Bardo, McNeese, C. McKnight) and even 3 years (Conyears) and we still cannot get much from them in our big games. And the sad thing is that this year is not our reloading year, next year is.

We need more ballers on this team. The fact that we have players like Milum who have been in the system 4 years and cannot contribute in a big game bothers me. Can we expect the same from McNees and Bardo 3 years from now? Can't brings these JUCO's in and they light it up for them within a year while it takes us years to develop players IF they develop at all. Maybe you need a few JUCO's here and there if you are a midmajor who cannot get those McDonalds all Americans. What in the world are we going to do next year? The cupboard looks pretty empty. Coaching did not lose that game for us. The players need to hit those shots. They need to finish layups. However, I would take Christians recruiting over Dambrot's.