Odd Corner Razed

[g-mann17]

http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/18859579.htmlWorkers reported experiencing a "contact buzz" as smoke rolled out of the building.

[bigham78]

Good riddance. I look forward to the day they take 360 E Exchange across the street for the future expansion of Lee Jackson across Exchange.The Odd Corner is not what I call a good business to have around UofA or anywhere in Akron for that matter.

[zen]

i'm not a druggie or Can't State hippie, but the odd corner never bothered me.tatoo shops to bother me even though I don't get tats.sometimes I don't understand all the snooty judgementalism.

[bigham78]

i'm not a druggie or Can't State hippie, but the odd corner never bothered me.tatoo shops to bother me even though I don't get tats.sometimes I don't understand all the snooty judgementalism.

No where did I say I was judging the business. IMO, it's not what I call a good business for being near a UofA. That's my opinion of the business. No where did I say I was being judgemental. I just don't like that kind of business period. Some people don't like sports because they feel they're too violent. They're entitled to their opinions. That doesn't mean they're being too judgemental either. That's just their opinion.

[scottditzen]

My biggest problem with the Odd Corner was how shoddy it looked more than anything.

[Dr Z]

I heard the Nemers are back in court today. Can anybody verify?

[bigham78]

I heard the Nemers are back in court today. Can anybody verify?

Manny is not due back in court until June 16.Stipulation and Order, with Defendants withdrawing their challenge to the necessity of the appropriation; Plaintiffs promising to not use the subject property for retail or commercial development or use; the Court cancelling the hearing on necessity which had been scheduled for February 15, 2008; and the Court rescheduling the Jury Trial on the issue of compensation for Monday, June 16, 2008, at 9:00 A.M.His Cousin Joe has been in and out of court due to dealing with the residents and other tenants he has on his property. They're back in court today over another resident and tenants. Joe's overall court date is May 28thCourt rescheduling the Jury Trial on the issue of compensation for Wednesday, May 28, 2008, at 9:00 A.M.UofA can acquire the remaining properties by law. The only question left is how much compensation they have to pay to do so. Manny can shoot his mouth off to the Buchellite all he wants about he not going anywhere. But, He'll be moving sooner or later, with later being in the next couple of months.

[GoZips88]

I've enjoyed jury duty in the past and think it would be kinda fun to be on that one! No, I probably wouldn't make it through the jury selection process ... I'm too honest to sit there and tell the two attorneys and judge "Why, yes, I can be impartial and keep an open mind." I'd probably let out a big "GO ZIPS!" and be excused right then and there.

[bigham78]

I've enjoyed jury duty in the past and think it would be kinda fun to be on that one! No, I probably wouldn't make it through the jury selection process ... I'm too honest to sit there and tell the two attorneys and judge "Why, yes, I can be impartial and keep an open mind." I'd probably let out a big "GO ZIPS!" and be excused right then and there.

Manny and Joe both are in for a shock. Jury trials for eminent domain rarely net large sums of additional cash for property owners. In cases where it does hapen and those are. The property owners usually come away with less then the original offer by the time you subtract legal fees and court costs. The jurys are always instructed to look closely at appraised property value and offers. UofA offers are high in all areas (loss of business revenues, moving expenses and way above current appraised property value) A 2 million dollar award for Manny Pub, Chopstix and Aroma coffee and tea is totally out of line given the location and existing business values. 1.04 million offer for Manny is more then adequate.

[Blue & Gold]

i'm not a druggie or Can't State hippie, but the odd corner never bothered me.tatoo shops to bother me even though I don't get tats.sometimes I don't understand all the snooty judgementalism.

Hey, now. I wish you'd stop judging Big Guy in GA's comments. I judge your judgmentalism to be quite snooty.Just joshing you. But honestly - glad the Odd Corner's outta here!

[zen]

i'm not a druggie or Can't State hippie, but the odd corner never bothered me.tatoo shops to bother me even though I don't get tats.sometimes I don't understand all the snooty judgementalism.

Hey, now. I wish you'd stop judging Big Guy in GA's comments. I judge your judgmentalism to be quite snooty.Just joshing you. But honestly - glad the Odd Corner's outta here!

touche Blue & Gold. Seriously. After I posted that I thought "If I hadn't added the 'snooty' descriptor, I might have had the high ground, because calling someone's judgementalism 'snooty' is a value judgement in itself". LOL, you caught it.I dunno though. I guess my point is, I can't blame an established business for not wanting to move, and if it was me, I'd be trying to get as much of a bonus for my troubles as I possibly could. ....and, I can personally agree with bashing the plasma place because of the element it brings around, but I feel like the odd corner was just odd, and not really a public nuisance or anything like that.

[bigham78]

i'm not a druggie or Can't State hippie, but the odd corner never bothered me.tatoo shops to bother me even though I don't get tats.sometimes I don't understand all the snooty judgementalism.

Hey, now. I wish you'd stop judging Big Guy in GA's comments. I judge your judgmentalism to be quite snooty.Just joshing you. But honestly - glad the Odd Corner's outta here!

touche Blue & Gold. Seriously. After I posted that I thought "If I hadn't added the 'snooty' descriptor, I might have had the high ground, because calling someone's judgementalism 'snooty' is a value judgement in itself". LOL, you caught it.I dunno though. I guess my point is, I can't blame an established business for not wanting to move, and if it was me, I'd be trying to get as much of a bonus for my troubles as I possibly could. ....and, I can personally agree with bashing the plasma place because of the element it brings around, but I feel like the odd corner was just odd, and not really a public nuisance or anything like that.

He sells Drug Paraphernalia. That my issue with his business. He calls them unusual merchandise today vs years ago when it was still the Head shop. But, it still the same similar type of Drug Paraphernalia just called unusual merchandise to get around the laws. He selling products, people are using to do or sell illegal drugs. I could less about his erotica material and I see many of those type of shops around and yes they're not much of public nuisance. But, when they get shut down down here, its not because of the erotica meterial. They get them for the unusual merchandise aka: Drug Paraphernalia. I have a problem with ANY business that sells Drug Paraphernalia and uses the term unusual merchandise to get around Drug Paraphernalia laws. That type of business in my opinion has no place being in business. He not close to a university because of his erotica material and tobacco products. He loves his location over the years because the business his unusual merchandise gets or in other words Drug ParaphernaliaThat is a public nuisance in my opinion.I also agree plasma place is a public nuisance for who they attract.

[zippyrifle32]

it's not drug paraphernalia, it's tobacco accessories. glass pipes, hookahs, water tobacco pipes... lol. i saw in one head shop brass knuckles labeled as a paper weight (thus legal). and what's really cool is that if you don't do drugs yourself they sell incense that smell like drugs...

[bigham78]

it's not drug paraphernalia, it's tobacco accessories. glass pipes, hookahs, water tobacco pipes... lol. i saw in one head shop brass knuckles labeled as a paper weight (thus legal). and what's really cool is that if you don't do drugs yourself they sell incense that smell like drugs...

Like I said drug paraphernalia. It's called usual merchandise today

[Blue & Gold]

i'm not a druggie or Can't State hippie, but the odd corner never bothered me.tatoo shops to bother me even though I don't get tats.sometimes I don't understand all the snooty judgementalism.

Hey, now. I wish you'd stop judging Big Guy in GA's comments. I judge your judgmentalism to be quite snooty.Just joshing you. But honestly - glad the Odd Corner's outta here!

touche Blue & Gold. Seriously. After I posted that I thought "If I hadn't added the 'snooty' descriptor, I might have had the high ground, because calling someone's judgementalism 'snooty' is a value judgement in itself". LOL, you caught it.I dunno though. I guess my point is, I can't blame an established business for not wanting to move, and if it was me, I'd be trying to get as much of a bonus for my troubles as I possibly could. ....and, I can personally agree with bashing the plasma place because of the element it brings around, but I feel like the odd corner was just odd, and not really a public nuisance or anything like that.

Ha! You know I'm only joking, Zen. Your comments are always great and give this board as much insight as anyone! Though I wasn't a customer of the Odd Corner, it never rubbed me the wrong way - I used to think it was funny. The plasma center, on the other hand, man, I'd take 4 Odd Corners over ONE plasma center. The sorts of people that place attracts will honestly deter students and other Akron residents from walking the streets around the new stadium. The Odd Corner's still in business, and that's fine by me. I am glad that the Odd Corner is not right outside the main entrance to the stadium though. But really, if there's anything the U could do about the plasma center, that's a bigger issue in my mind.

[zen]

atleast guns can be used for self defense, right?What other uses do 'paraphernalia' have?You can't say that some of these things have legitimate or legal uses, but yet it's still legal to sell (because it's not the controlled substance itself. of course)I can understand why some people have a personal aversion to it on moral grounds. I don't hold your personal moral choices against you (just like I don't hold it against people to fry their brain on THC)It just never bothered me.And everyone knows that pr0n is basically responsible for proliferation of the internet. LOL. I know girls that look up porn on the web. People like to pretend that if you make porn go away, human beings will suddenly stop having 'dirty thoughts' or something. lol.okay okay... I'm not trolling. I swear.I wouldn't want the odd corner at the entrance of the stadium either.

[zippyrifle32]

it just seems like a better fit to have the odd corner next to the plasma center... now customers don't have to be inconvenienced by walking across exchange

[Captain Kangaroo]

I wish the whiny transvestite douche bag would take his K.e.n.t. scholarship fund and fall off the face of the earth. K.e.n.t.-loving she-males suck just as much as any other Golden Fla.shes.

[zen]

I wish the whiny transvestite douche bag would take his K.e.n.t. scholarship fund and fall off the face of the earth. K.e.n.t.-loving she-males suck just as much as any other Golden Fla.shes.

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[Captain Kangaroo]

I wish the whiny transvestite douche bag would take his K.e.n.t. scholarship fund and fall off the face of the earth. K.e.n.t.-loving she-males suck just as much as any other Golden Fla.shes.

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Reminds me of the "SMUG" episode on South Park.

[scottditzen]

My honest opinion, alcohol sales, legal AND illegal, are a much greater problem around a college campus than sales of "unusual" merchandise. And I also would rather have 4 Odd Corners (relocated of course) than one plasma alliance.

[bigham78]

atleast guns can be used for self defense, right?What other uses do 'paraphernalia' have?You can't say that some of these things have legitimate or legal uses, but yet it's still legal to sell (because it's not the controlled substance itself. of course)I can understand why some people have a personal aversion to it on moral grounds. I don't hold your personal moral choices against you (just like I don't hold it against people to fry their brain on THC)It just never bothered me.And everyone knows that pr0n is basically responsible for proliferation of the internet. LOL. I know girls that look up porn on the web. People like to pretend that if you make porn go away, human beings will suddenly stop having 'dirty thoughts' or something. lol.okay okay... I'm not trolling. I swear.I wouldn't want the odd corner at the entrance of the stadium either.

You're all over the map. I'm talking about the Odd Corner. I don't know where gun control or the other comments unrelated to this business. We're talking one business and I gave my opinion on why I feel it's not a good business. I've made no mention of the erotica material other then to say I don't care. He could sell all the butt plugs and other erotica material he wants and I could care less about that part of his business and this the 2nd time I've had defend myself on that part of his business that keeps being brought up. I do take offense to businesses that sell drug paraphernalia or usual merchandise which we all know is drug paraphernaliaWhen you lose family members like I have to illegal drug use. Or you seen 1st hand how illegal drugs have ruined lives and families close to you. Maybe if you walked a mile in my shoes. Then you might understand. But, I don feel it's was what our founding fathers had in mind someone could sell usual merchandise that's actually drug paraphernalia.I agree people are responsible for his or her own behavior. But, excuse me if I feel it's wrong for businesses to sell any merchandise that used for the purpose of illegal drug use. That's my opinion.

[bigham78]

My honest opinion, alcohol sales, legal AND illegal, are a much greater problem around a college campus than sales of "unusual" merchandise.

I agree that bigger issue. But, we've been talking about the Odd corner.

And I also would rather have 4 Odd Corners (relocated of course) than one plasma alliance.

I'd rather have neither business in the area.

[ziptrumpet87]

I heard the Nemers are back in court today. Can anybody verify?

Manny is not due back in court until June 16.Stipulation and Order, with Defendants withdrawing their challenge to the necessity of the appropriation; Plaintiffs promising to not use the subject property for retail or commercial development or use; the Court cancelling the hearing on necessity which had been scheduled for February 15, 2008; and the Court rescheduling the Jury Trial on the issue of compensation for Monday, June 16, 2008, at 9:00 A.M.His Cousin Joe has been in and out of court due to dealing with the residents and other tenants he has on his property. They're back in court today over another resident and tenants. Joe's overall court date is May 28thCourt rescheduling the Jury Trial on the issue of compensation for Wednesday, May 28, 2008, at 9:00 A.M.UofA can acquire the remaining properties by law. The only question left is how much compensation they have to pay to do so. Manny can shoot his mouth off to the Buchellite all he wants about he not going anywhere. But, He'll be moving sooner or later, with later being in the next couple of months.

Assuming everything goes UA's way, when would they take possesion? Just curious if there's any chance they would be starting the dorm part of the project before winter.

[bigham78]

I heard the Nemers are back in court today. Can anybody verify?

Manny is not due back in court until June 16.Stipulation and Order, with Defendants withdrawing their challenge to the necessity of the appropriation; Plaintiffs promising to not use the subject property for retail or commercial development or use; the Court cancelling the hearing on necessity which had been scheduled for February 15, 2008; and the Court rescheduling the Jury Trial on the issue of compensation for Monday, June 16, 2008, at 9:00 A.M.His Cousin Joe has been in and out of court due to dealing with the residents and other tenants he has on his property. They're back in court today over another resident and tenants. Joe's overall court date is May 28thCourt rescheduling the Jury Trial on the issue of compensation for Wednesday, May 28, 2008, at 9:00 A.M.UofA can acquire the remaining properties by law. The only question left is how much compensation they have to pay to do so. Manny can shoot his mouth off to the Buchellite all he wants about he not going anywhere. But, He'll be moving sooner or later, with later being in the next couple of months.

Assuming everything goes UA's way, when would they take possesion? Just curious if there's any chance they would be starting the dorm part of the project before winter.

Once compensation is settled. Manny and Joe will have all of 45 to 60 days tops. Joe Nemer trail is set to start next Wednesday May 28th. UofA has already filed Jury instructions and previous eminent domain cases for use during trial. The trial itself shouldn't take long and after compensation is set. It's not long after the property has to be vacated and turned over to UofA.Keep in mind this trial is for compensation as both parties have given in to UofA right to acquire. Manny was grandstanding to the Buchtellite with he's not moving. The only thing left to determine is how much he gets for his dump. There no appeal for this part and he knew he was fighting a losing battle when he gave in on UofA right to acquire his property.I predict UofA will have both the Nemers properties by late August early September worse case. They pushed back the opening of the new dorms from Dec 2009 until August 2010 due to the court battles. The shame of this is any extra monies Manny or Joe get out this will be eaten up in legal fees and court costs.Managan backed out his deal for the houses he owned and Juge Spicer only award him with UofA offered in the first place. That should have been Manny and Joe Nemer clue as to how they're going to fare.