Just to close this part of the Hurley discussion out, I think that you and I differ in this only on degree. You seem to to be saying that DePaul is absolutely a total lost cause under any circumstances and I'm just saying that's not necessarily true, that it could have a successful program with the right coach and the right backing from the university. We both agree that Hurley can probably do better than DePaul with another school that has a greater chance of success with him as coach.