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If you were a player I would pull your scholarship for thinking like that. You play to win. Period.I agree. The players better believe they can win. However, us fans on a message board are allowed to be realistic.Guys like zipswin are just morons that attack for no reason other than they are losers.

I know you're being realistic, but would it kill you to have an ounce of optimism? It is January, after all. Or do you just really enjoy p*ssing on everyone's parade? Did you really expect anything different from a buckeye fan?You just can't leave your ability to be a douche bag out of a post can you? Jackass.

If it was #1 v#1. #2 v#2 you are probably right.However, I think it would be closer than you think.

I agree. They are kind of like UA was a few years back. They made it to a bowl game and lost and basically started over again.They may, or may not be a 1 hit member. We will see.

Thanks for the exception. Charlie Cheeseburger has lots to do with that.Why don't you go find me the last NC, or even top 20 team that was made of all 1-2*?You can probably find 1 exception there too.Buckzip, the number of stars a player has is a reflection of who offered them, not of their athletic ability. Just look at scout's page for Akron recruiting: they made every single one of our recruits a 2-star guy today, where there used to be quite a few 1-star guys. They did that because MAC recruits are automatically 2-stars unless they have a significant amount of offers from BCS schools.That is not entirely true. Patrick Nicely is a 3 star knocking on 4 star and he doesn't have one BCS offer. There is a reason for the most part that MAC schools have their players rated as 2 stars. For goodness sakes watch the games. Most of the MAC players are just not as talented. Like anything else, there are a few guys that fall through the ratings crack like a Domenik Hixon, James Harrison, Ben Roethlisburger, Greg Jennings, etc... All those 4 and 5 star guys that USC, Miami, Florida, Texas, OSU, Oklahoma, etc.. gets every year sure seem to make a difference, don't they? Those teams recruit the cream of the crop BASED ON ATHLETIC ABILITY. The scouting services obviously see a kid not getting offers from bigger schools and most of the time correctly grade them out at a lower star level. I have no idea why some people on here think there is a conspiracy to downgrade MAC recruits star levels. Go to Rivals and click on the Akron verbals. Half of them show Akron as their ONLY OFFER! Go to any BCS conference and click on their players. Even the 2 and 3 star guys have multiple BCS offers. These programs have been doing this for decades. They know what they are doing.Thanks genius! Now get off this board and go find a buckeye board to get off on.That is the best you could come up with? What part of my comment was incorrect mr internet tough guy? Also, what is it with the OSU comment? What did I say that caused you to act like a 3 year old child and make a moronic statement? Some of you people on here amaze me with your maturity level.You simply can't have a conversation with some people without them going into attack mode. Pretty f'ing sad IMHO.

Turner Gill will be gone soon and Buffalo will be back to sucking...

I agree with that. The B10 has looked pretty bad lately.

I enjoy following the Rivals * ratings and this class does have 5 - 3* players, which is pretty good for a UA class. However, I'm with Buckzip in being a bit underwhelmed by this year's class. With that beautiful new stadium going up I was anticipating our verbals list to flesh out much more quickly than it did this year and for us to possibly land a 4* player.Speaking of 4* players, Rivals still has DT Christopher Henderson as unverballed (is that a word?). Has anyone heard anything about this guy's status? He's a 6-2, 300 lb. DT who has only been offered by Pitt and us.Also, I notice that Phil Tonga now is a 3* recruit. Umm, help me out here, but Rivals just recently bumped him up a * or ** in the last few days, right?I know we won't compete with the big boys for many recruits, but we should be able to compete with other mid majors.We should be able to compete with Cincy, Syracuse, and others, but it seems like for most of our verbals, we were there best offer. I know Cincy went to a BCS game last season, but they still aren't really that good. They played in a weak BE.UA has better facilities than a lot of these schools.

That was the year Akron outplayed scUM and still lost somehow. What a game it was.SNIPThanks for helping me out....If games were 33 minutes long, then maybe we did out play them. Unfortunately, it was a 40 minute game. Marcel B. (favorite playa) always brings back great memories and that team will always be my favorite. Boyce, Roberts, McLaughlin, Schutz, Dowdell, Holmes, etc. What a fun team!If memore serves me correctly, we lost by 6 points.UA outplayed them the entire game. They just got the luck when the game was on the line.That was one of the best and most exciting games, in any sport, that I remember watching.That team with McLaughlin, Roberts, then Buford was so fun to watch.

I realize the 81-0 score was an exaggeration. I see now that Clark is getting an extra year of eligibility. That will make it tough.Actually I remember PSU beating someone 81-0. I thought it was us. I remember Nebraska kicked our butts pretty bad in the 90's too.Getting old and trying to forget really ruin my recollection of history.

Alright, a 2* player with grade issues.... When will the stadium and facilities start helping the recruiting?

Wasn't Lee Owens the coach then?They're not going to be fired up to play Akron, and we will stay with them through the end of the third quarter.If this was the 3rd game I would agree with you. But being this early, they will be fired up.I have been optimistic in the past and have ALWAYS been let down by this team.Just because you are a fan doesn't mean you have to be optimistic. That is being a homer.I am a Browns fan too, but I have no problem being honest and saying that organization sucks.

Didn't PSU beat Akron 81-0 back in the 90's?Sorry guys, but this game will be over by halftime. Clark is a stud QB and they will be fired up for the first game of the season.

That was the year Akron outplayed scUM and still lost somehow. What a game it was.

If his Akron commit was indeed inaccurate, how could he be heading in a "new direction?" Wouldn't he be heading in the same direction he was heading all along?Shady stuff...but it happens every year. At least he gave us a week's notice to find a replacement.Well from that quote i can gather that we are better off without his confused self, maybe he is more suited for somewhere like Can't.The kid sounds like he is ashamed to have verballed to Akron.

#67 John BuddenbergWasn't Buddenberg a 10th round pick of the Browns back in the day?

Brookhart takes a few JC kids every year....

That sucks. He looked like a stud too.

I think the guy that recorded that video has been in the Sun since 1987!?! Love the fake voice on the guy behind the camera.

Thanks for the exception. Charlie Cheeseburger has lots to do with that.Why don't you go find me the last NC, or even top 20 team that was made of all 1-2*?You can probably find 1 exception there too.

Stars don't mean everything, but I guarantee you that there are more studs from 3* and above than there are from 1-2*.There is a reason that the schools with the highest * average are the same teams that are constantly top 20.I see a lot of guys here get excited when we get a verbal from a 1-2*. All I can think is wow. If he is a 1-2* and UA is his only offer, it's possible he isn't that great.As for how someone looks on a highlight tape, everyone looks great on a highlight tape. Hence the name.

It was rubble when I used to go there in the 80's.

230 pounds, and can't beat five seconds for 40 yards? Why did we offer him, exactly? Could have been his 25 inch vertical, or the fact that he's 230 and will probably put on 15-20 pounds. Which would make a decent strong side end.over 5 seconds is even slow for a DE. That is DT speed. at 230lbs he will need some serious weight.