g-mann17

Are they Blue or White (not that it matters, just curious).

Ladies win 1-0. Quick interview, nice shot of construction.

They are both schools of 14000 with nothing going on around them for miles (closest to Youngstown is Akron some 50 miles away). YSU was "selling out" for national champion teams with a whopping 17,000. (They added 3000 seats in 97 after their "run"). Marshall (50 Miles from Charleston) played to packed crowds in an 18000 seat stadium, until they moved to D-1 and built the 38,000 stadium they have now. The University of Akron is twice the size of both schools. We are a D-1 school, they had to give a way free tickets to get people to go see D-2 and 1-AA football. Moral of the story, even if you are a good 1-AA school no one really cares.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Great GP1. Contradiction after contradiction. To answer your first question. I did, less then what shows up when we have a losing season. The years we had winning seasons 34,000 showed up for the Acme Zip game, and then what? Can anyone out there tell me, I'm slow, slow, slow minded. That's right less then what we have been averaging since going D-1. And why is that Grand Pa 1? Because people don't give a about 1-AA. It's interesting that all you ever offer is "opinion" and then blast facts for "being dumb ole facts by golly". But you have fun in your happy elderly world where everything was "great in the good ole days when I played football, I would have been a JV Superstar if we hadn't have tried to move up and play big boy football."

Interesting questions and worthy of discussion. The answer is I don't know, but however much money we have spent has not been enough to make us good at football. We have had and still continue to have some of the lowest paid football coaches in the MAC. Our academic support for football has not been enough to keep at risk student athletes in school. The new football stadium was going to happen sooner or later so I don't worry about that money. We spend money on building buildings and not building a program. I don't think question one ties with questions two. Or maybe I should say there is no evidence spending on sports has resulted in underachieving academics. It makes me happy to say that UofA is a better school today, in every way, than it was when I was in school 19 years ago. The professors are better. The facilities are better. The campus is a place for learning in lieu of a bunch of buildings near downtown Akron. The law school can boast about the highest rate of bar passing graduates in Ohio. The business school is excellent and has programs like the direct marketing school. The engineering school is top notch and at the top of that rests the polymer science school which is a world leader. The Ray C. Bliss Institute is nationally known. My brother is a doctor and says the best nurses around are UofA graduates and the BS nurses make great administrators. The Athletic Department is not harming UofA. Since it functions in the red every year though, it does harm the taxpayers of Ohio. I don't see how throwing more money at it will change the influence the NCAA has in college sports and the negative impact it has on non-BCS schools. Here are two scenarios that I think about. Scenario 1: UofA stays in D-1A football and because of the lack of support by the ncaa for nonbcs schools, we continue to function in the lower 20% of college football for the next 20 years. The money will appear to be wasted. Scenario 2: UofA moves either to I-AA and becomes a national power with fans stuffing the Big Dialer for a winning football game and playoff games to watch UofA compete for a national championship. Which is better...One bowl game every few years, or two-three home playoff games in a national championship tournament? If this happens, the money is well spent. It's all about what outcomes take place. First, even while "operating in the red" that money doesn't come from the tax payer, it comes from the student. Second, you think there is a lack of support now? Even when we made the playoffs in 1-AA, we only averaged what we are averaging now. Your perpetual "Akron belongs in 1-aa" nonsense is getting pretty old. I know you think more than half of the FBS should be 1-AA, but the whole idea is for lack of better word, dumb. You seem to think that OSU, Florida, Texas et. al are some how "semi-pro" teams. There are 120 FBS school, with 85 scholarship athletes a piece, and on average 100 athletes a school. There are a whopping 224 players drafted by the NFL. Do some math. 12000 FBS players only 2 percent make it to the NFL, that is hardly "semi-pro". On top of that 110 schools operate "in the red" every year.

You assume that money would have been readily available to "improve academics". How much did us having a D-1 program play in Proenza wanting to come here? How much does D-1 mean to donors? People talk about the "glory days" like they were glorious. They weren't, we had heavy win seasons and averaged 14,000 fans. Our losing seasons average over 15. How much has being 1-AA helped YSU academics? How much has not spending $$$ on football helped Cleveland States academics. Understand that Academics are tied to history, that's it, nothing more, nothing less. Pitt is an "academic school" because of the polio vaccine. Miami(OH) matters because it's old and that is pretty much it. We could have spent our entire athletic budget for the last 30 years (I believe the latest number was 27.4 million) and you know what? It would not even equal 2 years of operating budget. It would barely pass up what we have spent on academics over the last 14 years. And even spending 822 million (which it would be less if we factored in the actual athletic budget over the last 30 years) you know what we would be? Akron University that wasn't even a state university until 1967. And if we only did the football budget (something around 9-10 million) the investment would be half that. But again you are assuming that money would be there (and no football, or lower tier football, and that money isn't there, it doesn't exist at all). We have received far more alumni investment, far more attention from being a mediocre D-1 football program then we ever did being 1-AA or D-II. The move to D-1 was made based off of what the growing student body wanted and a look at the academic investments that D-1 programs receive. Maybe the lackluster record is disheartening, but it took us 20 years just to get an on campus practice field. I know you old timers don't have much of it left, but give it some time.

Georgia Southern? No, we aren't scared of them, they just think they are too good to play an away game without a return trip. Don't you hate pompous schools like that?

Then why is Doug Martin still at Can't? He's the losing-est douche bag in NCAA.

May have to take back my speed comment= 4.47 according to Rivals..not too bad for a 6'0 200+ lbs kid Looks pretty big and fast in this video (intersting other videos there which might not be best for work)...nice catching and even some throwing in there!: http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category...9496355GyaTTmTq 4.47(Rivals) gets me excited - 4.86 (ESPN) not so much. I think the ESPN times come from the SPARQ Combines that they hold and are laser times - not sure where Rivals obtains their stats. Heres hoping that he's closer to 4.47 than the 4.86!!! Well he ran a 100 yd touchdown in about 10.5-11 seconds in the video, so I'm inclined to go with the Rivals speed.

Yeah, just 65,000 to go.

That is typical new coach stuff, there may be a few people bumped, but that was probably anticipated by the staff because it was a weak position. It should always be an "open competition". For instance WR. I would think that Suel would be able to take the # 2 receiver spot. Flemming could take over as starting TE. Might see Richard Hall push for DE time.

Where do you get 9 conference games? http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/s...-in-2011-080210 "Commissioner Jim Delany expects the Big Ten to hold a championship game next season, when Nebraska joins and brings the league to 12 members. He also said teams will likely play nine conference games instead of eight in the future to help preserve rivalries." The one I read on ESPN just said he was in favor of 9 games. However OSU was adamently opposed to anything that would jeopardize their 7 home games. It's something that will likely be voted on later and wouldn't take affect until 2015 at the earliest.

Where do you get 9 conference games?

His logic is funny. 12 more points. Well what if they get all 12 in the first game against the FCS opponent and just blow the hole load right there.

Can't picked a bad year to be on NCAA watch. They have only 2 home games in their first 6. They could be 1-5 in those games, not an appealing draw for Mid October-November. However, we don't know that they would get "bumped to FCS" by the NCAA, there has never been a team that had the attendance problem. I could see a fine or loss of scholarships. Though if things go poorly for Can't the unbalanced MAC schedule could be finally resolved.

The 3-3-5 defense had nothing to do with the off the field turmoil. You can't let teams march up and down the field at will. College football has become high scoring, but at times, you still have to stop people or at least hold them to a fg try. I was saying that despite injuries and other issues we weren't overmatched in the MAC. Which is what you have been saying ever since I joined Zipsnation. There is no reason we shouldn't expect .500 or better out of this team.

Magrell quit on the Zips... then transferred to K.e.n.t.... and quit there. I think Patrick Nicely will throw for roughly 9,000 more yards in his career when compared to Magrell. We're on the same page regarding iCoach -- WAY too much talent on this team to win 2...3...or 4 games. I'd even say 5, but I guess it would need to take into account how the 7 games were lost, and how the team progressed from beginning-to-end of the season. I still say, with our schedule & talent, 6 wins should be the minimum total to consider it a positive season. 6 ain't great... but it's a number the football team hasn't reached in a while. I'd take it. I would go along with that CK. The reason we only ended up with 3 last year was because of all the off-field turmoil. I was actually presently surprised JD was able to get those guys to show up for the EMU game. Though I have a feeling that win had more to do with Nicely and some of the younger guys leading the team. 5 wins: I'm a disappointed, and it would depend on how the games were lost (close, last minute kind of deal ok) 4 wins: There is something wrong with the way the team was prepared But I think it's more than fair to expect a .500 season. Two games last year (Ohio & Buffalo) were competitive and could have easily been won some form of stability. Also NIU could have went either way. That's .500 right there in a terrible season.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that moderates are more subtle than extremists. I think you confuse being a moderate with being open minded. An extremist can be open minded as well. William F. Buckley was a solid conservative, but was open minded enough to discuss his ideas with those he didn't agree with. Byron York is a modern day Buckley. Boy is this off topic. I'm pretty sure that open minded means a person is willing to accept an idea or opinion that is not his own. Which means the left and right extremes are not open minded, and moderates and the "dreaded flip-flopper" are the most open minded. Pretty sure that is what intelligent people are supposed to do, get information for and against something and then make a rational decision.

That's very Fox News of you.

Again I ask: What if Rodgers gets the starting spot? Well that doesn't fit into your Ianello is rebuilding concept. Rodgers is a Junior now. The question you should be asking is "What if Zach D'orazio gets the starting spot?"

So many other things to address then this but... Have the same outlook on everything kid? "I already gave a girl like you a chance, so I can't give you one." "I already gave Italian food a chance, so I can't give this restaurant one." Fact is, even in your poorly thought out bias to the new hire, Ianello isn't like Brookhart. Brookhart was a coordinator before coming here, with NFL experience. I know I'm not going to convince you, I'm doubtful the stadium groundskeeper could convince you, but here are some things you should think about. Assuming that Wistrcill and Ianello are just using the University as "stepping stones", they have to have success. That means there isn't some grand "buddy" system of conspiracy that results in failure. You put too much into a brief passing of the two at Wisconsin. If Ianello isn't what other coaches said he was would he have had so many jobs at so many schools far more notable than ours. Meaning he has a great football mind, he knows how to organize, he knows how to plan, and he knows how to convince talented to people to work for him. Latina was OC at Ole Miss from 1994-2004, they had 7 bowl appearances and he had a chance to learn under Tommy Tubberville and David Cutcliffe. The guy coached Eli Manning, and Deuce Mccallister. Ianello knows where he lacks experience and he found people to fill those voids. Give it a while.

NOMU? NO M U or will they keep NEO and just be NEOMU. Cause let's face it, people make things acronyms whether they should or not.

I'd like to nominate 'the Kid' for Giving up on the Zips Hall of Fame. In my humble opinion his performance over the last 6 months has pushed him right to the top.

Ianello is an alumnus? Wow we really should pay attention to what these guys have to say. That is certainly a fact left out.

Although I agree that RI deserves a chance, I disagree with believing "we got the best that was out there". IMHO, Wistrcill did not give due diligence to the search for a head coach. He took the easy way out and hired a former acquaintance. I don't like RI's qualifications (i.e., "lack thereof") and am not excited about football season. I did renew my season ticket, but I fully expect to just go and watch with little to get excited about. I'm certain there were numerous successful head coaches at FCS and lower division schools who would have taken the opportunity to move to FBS. Although nothing is guaranteed, a successful HC from a lower division would have given me more confidence in his abilities to "run" a football team. People around here lost credibility when you guys starting calling for Larry Kehres of Mt Union and guys alike. I don't care if RI was a waterboy at Notre Dame, he has a better resume than some guy who coaches D2 or D3 football. The only way I could accept even a FCS coach is if they had a handful of National Championships and even then I might not think too much of them. We needed someone from a big school. Well, we agree to DISAGREE then. You may think you're all-knowing, but you're not. We'll see how this plays out. The only part of your statement upon which we agree is your use of the waterboy analogy...it's close to the mark. Yeah Assistant Head Coach and Interim Head Coach is so close to waterboy.