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You sound like one of the lawyers.
No sale.
Are you saying the NFL knew about the head injuries and the long term danger? If so, the NFL is in worse trouble than I think they are. If DiG is correct, the NFL is still in trouble. Either way, the NFL has a huge problem.
Personally, I believe the NFL knew the long term dangers of head injuries for a long time. I also believe they know there may be a connection between PEDs and head injuries and possible depression from players trying to get off of steroids. The NFL got fat off of abusing the bodies of their employees in a way far beyond the limits of acceptable risk for the sport. They are really going to have to cough up some money for that.
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If they win this lawsuit, it is the end of the NFL, and of college football. People will not pay to watch a bunch of guys playing flag football.
I'm not interested in watching flag football either. I'm also not interested in watching football turn into cockfighting.
Football is a physical sport. When it goes from being physical to violent, it becomes pornography/cockfighting. People who call it violent don't understand what violent really means and have a limited vocabulary. Pornography isn't just dirty movies, magazines, etc. Pornography is also a visual designed to bring out an emotional response in someone. Watching guys loaded up on PEDs take cheap shots on defenseless players doesn't make me happy. It doesn't take a tough guy to hit someone in an effort to harm them when they can't see it coming. It isn't good for society to have a sport promoting that activity.
The reason the NFL needs to settle the class action case is so they can establish a fund administered by someone else that will handle all of the cases the former players are already filing. There are currently over 2,000 cases filed. The NFL can't afford, both politically and literally, to take every one of them to trial. This issue needs to get out of the headlines asap for the NFL, and the settlement is the best way to do it. Companies do it all the time with issues such as asbestos and the NFL needs to do it as well.
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As quick as Pohl is ready is as quick as he will start. Smart money is on Williams to begin the season, and Pohl to end it.
I don't know about timing, but a good source told me a Freshman is going to start next year.
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When you guys had Q&A time with Coach B at the golf outing, did he mention he was planning on starting his freshman QB?
George Thomas, Have you heard this?
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I happen to have Fox 8 on in the garage while I was loading up the beer fridge for Father's Day Sunday morning.
Fox 8 did a recorded piece at Flannery's Pub in downtown Cleveland. Apparently they had a Ken+ themed party for the game.
They interviewed about 4 or 5 fans. They must have stayed for the whole game, because they showed the fans from their pregame
"high" to the end of the game "low." If I had to guess, it looked as though 15 people were in their urine colored yellow shirts at the Pub.
Did it run before or after the house fire story?
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They know the risks and accept them to be big rich stars.
Maybe they are just now finding out the risks. Jacob Bell now has a better understanding and walked away. It isn't unreasonable to believe players thought they had less risk because of helmet technology improvements. The increased protection can't keep up with the size and speed of players due to the amount of guys taking PEDs. Nobody talks about that being the problem, but it is really the case. Unless the NFL and college football adopt serious PED testing programs, the head injuries aren't going away. Real PED testing will result in smaller and slower players....basically, shrink players down to what a normal person can do without help.
Is it a slippery slope? Yes. The NFL needs to settle a class action case ASAP, set up a fund established by a judge and let an administrator hand out the money....right after they start a real PED testing program.
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Sometimes it's hard for old geezers like me to keep up with the flow of modern social conversation. But as best I understand it, the theory being advanced here is that when all of us old folks die off, local TV news will disappear, baseball will fade into obscurity and future generations will still be arguing over whether or not soccer will take over as America's national pastime. Is that about right?
Your summary is correct with the exception of one point. As long as there are old people with a desire to watch a story about a house fire before turning out the lights for the night, there will always be the 6:00 evening news.
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They're getting more media coverage for getting to the CWS than for their Elite 8 run in basketball.
Maybe on a local level, but there is no way on the national level. Nobody watches local news except for old people who watch the 6:00 evening news before going to bed. There is no way a school gets more national coverage for the CWS than for the Elite 8.
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And it sucks for us, but it is indeed a harsh reality check. This story already far surpassed our soccer national championship in media attention a long time ago.
There is media attention and then there is media attention. Another harsh reality is very few people watch the local news so the attention is almost meaningless.
Can't was on a nice run, but they were completely out classed yesterday. The run is coming to a close in the near future and the players will fade into the background of college athletics where college baseball is mostly played. I'd take a national championship in any sport compared to that outcome.
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Attendance will likely be about the same regardless of where the new arena is built.
Agreed, which is why it should be on campus. If someone wants to go to a game, they will go to a game. If the possible sites for the games are less than 1 mile, it won't impact a decision by a fan to go or not to go.
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I say good luck to him. He did everything the Zips asked him to do for four years and earned a degree. What's one more year of football? At some point, we all grow up and maybe this was that point for him. Playing college football really isn't a "grown up" thing to do because other people tell you how and when to do everything. You're really treated like a child. A little time away from it provides reflection and insight into another part of life as a grown up.
I don't think he was much of a candidate for the NFL and I think he knows the same thing deep down inside. He is a hard working, smart guy. I believe he will do well in anything he decides to do. Again, good luck.
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No, we (U of A) are. My point was, a run to the CWS like they are having would help us if we did something similar.
Everybody around the area is talking about it, and tuning in to watch the games.
I guess I could have asked the question of any school.
Wouldn't it make more sense to have the same number of students with a higher quality of student entering the school? For example, Harvard has 27,000 students.?.?
Since this is a sports forum, I'll put it another way. Wouldn't the MAC better off with fewer, high quality teams than adding teams like UMASS?
More isn't always better. Dr. Proenza is a smart guy, but this is a backward way of thinking.
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I've posted this before, but it is worth a look again. Give me something like this with 2,500 more seats and it is enough. Enough with the 10-15,000 seat nonsense (even worse with curtains trying to fool people into believing their tax dollars weren't a complete waste of money). CoC is located in Charleston (a very different city than Akron), but is its own section of town, like UofA is. I drove by it yesterday and thought of the Zips. When you drive by, you would never know it was a basketball arena if it wasn't for the signs. Fits the historic town perfectly. UofA needs an arena that fits the look and feel of the new campus, not the look and feel of the City of Akron.
A packed stadium is better than a half empty stadium with an empty promise of a bigger conference down the road.
Dr. Proenza has always had a vision for UofA that includes limited partnership with the City of Akron. It works. Any new arena should be on campus.
BTW, the girl:boy ratio at CofC is 3:1 if you are interested. I have a customer who is a dirty old man and likes to meet me at the Starbucks across the street from the main gates to watch girls while they walk around. He schedules his times for meetings for when classes are changing. We like some of our customers for different reasons.....
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Would that not be your target market if you were trying to get an extra 10,000 students by 2020?
Are they trying to get 10,000 quality students, or 10,000 morons? There are a lot of ways to "grow". Not all of them are always good.
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Do we want to be a mediocre MAC team forever? or do we want to strive to be better. Like I said a 7,000 seat arena would put us 6th in the MAC, and the Big East that would put us last.
Again....How may empty seats do you want to see on gameday? How is a half empty arena good for the program?
If we join the Big East, in basketball we will be last in more than one category. The size of the arena won't matter at that point.
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I'm coaching youth sports and can tell you your 100% wrong. I've seen so many good youth baseball players quit for spring soccer. Ive seen extremely talented high school football players quit for soccer.
Kids gravitate to sports they are good at? Or, they gravitate to sports they can get on the field in because they couldn't perform well against the others in the sport they quit? If you aren't very good at something, go do something you don't have to be very good at. Only in America would a kid not good enough to use both hand and eye coordination quit baseball for soccer. Baseball takes some talent. Soccer at the youth level takes the ability to run a lot and kick a ball...and act like you have been shot if someone touches you....everyone is a winner and nobody has to be "the man".
The reason Americans are so horribly bad internationally (Let's face it, our national soccer team is a joke. ESPN is probably praying they can pull their heads out of their @$$es long enough to win a couple of games to keep people watching over the summer.) is because we don't deploy our best talent for soccer. It is playing other sports. In Europe, soccer is the sport kids play and the other sports are what they play if they can't play soccer. I may not know a lot about soccer, but I can turn on the US national team and see they don't have much talent compared to their European counterparts. European players are also very aggressive and attack the game...American soccer players tend to be passive and meek compared to the European players, which is why they shy away from sports like football and basketball. I know this is the point where a soccer fan sites a handful of Americans who are "just as good as the Europeans". Maybe, but they have minor league soccer teams in Europe who could beat the American national team.
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If you're going to shell out millions for a new arena, go big time or we might as well just stay at the JAR.
How many empty seats do you really want there to be on gameday?
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If they were to win it all, how would it compare to our soccer national title? Equivalent? Better? Lesser? I guess that is another poll for another day.
Since we will never see that poll, I'll weigh in.
Winning the cws would be better. The cws is played at prime time on ESPN and not ESPNwhatever. The soccer national title game is played on ESPNU and it on at the same time the NFL is on. I guess ESPN has to fill the air with something. Americans care about baseball and we don't really care about soccer. At least not enough for ESPN to put the national championship game on primetime against a popular sport.
Soccer is a college sport, like hockey, where a school like Akron or Ferris State or University of Denver can focus on and get good. There aren't many good college soccer programs like there aren't many good college hockey programs. It is easier to get good in these sports and compete on a national level. American kids who tend to not do well at other sports gravitate to soccer so the gene pool isn't as great so the talent is equally bad for all teams. Below average Europeans can come to America and do extremely well in college soccer and they would have never seen the field in Europe because the talent for soccer is so great. Get a few good Europeans to make the Americans look good and you can have a national championship college soccer program. The formula really isn't that difficult.
Many of the teams the Flashes are able to compete against, and win, are southern schools. They take baseball very serious down here and most of the schools play many more games than their counterparts. In the summer, many kids play in a league like the CPL, similar to the Cape Cod League if anyone has heard of it. We have a local team around Charlotte called the Gastonia Grizzlies (The games are a blast to go to and the do a better job of making the time at the game fun than the Charlotte Knights, AAA White Sox). They play many more games than their northern counterparts and are very well trained. Can't is doing great against some very, very good talent.
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The picture is not correct. Isn't Chase to the upper left side behind the President's head?
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Does anybody know how Rifle calculates attendance? Tickets sold or butts in seats?
It's really not complicated. They take the actual number of attendees and multiply it by the square root of NRA members in Summit, Stark and Portage Counties then divide that number by the number of John Birch Society members in all of Ohio.
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I know a guy who has season tickets right behind the plate for the Richmond, VA minor league team. When they called him to renew his tickets, they asked him what it would take for him to renew. He said he wanted to throw out the first pitch at a game and they said OK. The week before the game, he went with a friend to the local high school baseball field to practice (How much practice does it take to throw a ball one time from the mound to the plate?). They got to goofing around and he pitched for like two hours. He blew out his arm and couldn't throw the first pitch. Don't blow out your arm KD!
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In general, I like the schedule. I'd rather play Tennessee first, get it out of the way and then play UCF fourth.
I'm also a fan of watching college football while the sun is out. Ideal starting times are between noon and 2:00...closer to 2:00. So in general I like the starting times. However, the first game should be played at night in the north because the weather cools for the fans in the evening. It's all about comfort for me. Give me 2-3 hours of tailgating in the warm sun, a three hour football game (add a half hour for replays) mostly in the sun and I go home without having to spend a day, on into the night, freezing my butt off in NE Ohio at a football game.
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90% of people who watch games think they can do a better job. Now is their chance. An NFL ref makes between $40K and $120K per year.
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Golf allows for interaction with three other people.
Moderator note:
I f'd up and accidentally hit the "Edit" function instead of "Reply." This deleted a lot of GP1's post, since I only wanted to reply to a short section. The gist of his post was recommending that people take advantage of the post-golf dinner, as it affords the opportunity to interact with a lot of Zips fans you cannot meet on the course.
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This is a serioius issue. Don't turn it into high school debate club.