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And that's not saying much. Both of those guys are CFL qbs. Not to defend Jacq, but to move this conversation in another direction, what is the difference between Jacq and most of the third string QBs in the NFL? As bad a Jacq is at times, he is one stupid team away from holding a clipboard on Sundays. Most of the third string QB can only complete five yard outs to tight ends. Please don't take this as a knock on Frye, but that's all he did for two years in Cleveland.Isn't the rea question about Jacq, Is he a misunderstood, misused, poorly coached genius of a QB or is he Ebby LaLoosh in a football uniform?

I don't know how many of you saw it yesterday or not, but Chris Carter gave Dom a glowing review on the CBS pregame show at noon. Basically he said that Dom has better hands, runs better routes and is faster than Burris. Put that all together and you have a better player in Dom. All of that without the stupidity means that Burris has a short time left in NY.

GP1 is a bit long winded for a Dead Horse....Nice!Dead Horse posters are usually board moderators.I heard over the weekend that Bill Cowher will be the coach of both the Browns, BGSU and his daughters basketball team at Wofford College. Can anyone confirm that rumor?

Wow, You will be happy if JD wins 6 games next year. BGSU just fired their coach for only winning 6 games. You will be happy wth 6 games....Here is another way to put it that you may relate to better. If tsou played an out of conference schedule that consisted of teams say the quality of USC and they lost all four per year. Then they lost one or two in the Big Ten, would you be this critical of Coach T. or would you be one of the people saying, "He is building a team we can all be proud of."The Zips are not in that much of a different spot than tosu. tosu is just able to hide their averageness with a bunch of piss poor out of conference teams and a bad conference. The Zips do not have that type of money to throw at their averageness.

I need to respond to this as you constantly rip on the Browns' fans. While I am not a Brown's fan, your logic on why they are idots is completely wrong. But before I get to the Browns, I agree about JD. He needs to change the defense from the 3-3-5 or he should get fired. The last three years have ended terribly. Going 0-3 to end the season against two very bad teams is an embarrassment. I prefer to make a change regardless, but if he makes the necessary staff/philosophical changes I would give hime one more year. The scary thing is is that he seems to be heading toward the Faust/Owens path of about 40 wins if he stays around for 9 years.Back to the Browns. Sure there are a lot a idiotic fans. But I've watched games in Pittsburgh and in Cleveland and I find very little difference in how you all act. You just happen to root for the the team with 5 SB championships. As my kids would say, big wup. Lumping Zips fans with Browns' fan makes no sense. The Zips have several hundred thousand alumni around the country and we have somehwere between 200 and 2000 true blue fans. Again, big wup.Browns' fans in general are somewhat misguided, but I do appreciate their passion. Unfortunately, this is not entirely their fault. In fact, the mere existince of my favorite college football factory in c bus actually does more harm to Browns' fans than they would ever admit to. You see, most Browns' fans are also tosu fans, even though 99% of them have no affiliation with the school.Here is how they are misled/idiots:1. McSweatervest rolls out of bed the first week of February and signs the best 18 players in the state and 4 of the best players around the country. Conversely, Crennel/Savage spend days deciding who to choose in the first round and then get about 8 good players in the draft, IF they are lucky enough to make the right selections. Talent advantage: A-holes in cbus.2. McSweatervest and the AD scour the country to find 3 or 4 of the easiest non-conference opponents to play and play in the easist bcs conference while getting to play 7 or 8 of those games at home/neutral fields. Conversely, the Browns are told who they play and only get 50% of those games at home...and there are no Younstown State's on the Browns' schedule. Scheduling Advantage: A-holes in c-bus.3. The idots in c-bus rake in $8-10 million per football weekend when all purchases and donations for football are averaged per home contest. Conversely, the Browns have a salary cap to work within, but so do the other 31 teams. Keeping players eligible and out of jail is completely funded in c-bus. Fiscal Advantage: A-holes in c-bus.When it's all added up, it's easy to see why 10 wins in nearly guaranteed in a-hole land. It's also easy to see why it's so difficult to win in the NFL and why Browns' fan have become discouraged and then act like idiots. Have at it Buckzip and sgm.....P.S. Zips soccer - 1, A-holes in cbus - 0.Interesting thesis and there is probably some truth to it. However, I still believe my Browns/Zips fan logic is correct. My logic does not assume 100% of Browns fans are idiots, only a large majority of them who make life miserable for the small minority.I should also clarify that not all Browns fans are idiots at everything. I have met many, many Browns fans who are actually extremely intelligent at many things, but turn into low IQ slackjaws when it comes to football. The whole theory centers around everything they want blowing up in their faces. It happens so often, it sort of proves the theory.In order to prove a theory, all other possibilities must be proven wrong. If anyone can show me something that Browns fans have wanted that worked out for them, I would be willing to listen. Even a big issue like being awarded an expansion team asap blew up in their faces. Then there is poor Brady Quinn. All the poor guy wants to do is play football and help the team win any way he can. When the fans finally get him in the game, his season is over in no time.

Weren't three of those wins in the last three years of LO against I-AA teams (Howard, Cal Poly and Liberty)? I'm sure that if that was the case and we filled those I-AA spots with I-A teams, the record would look more like 25-34. I fail to see how that is better than 27-32. Don't forget the wins against BCS teams and the MAC Championship either.I'm not being overly defensive of JD because if he got fired tomorrow I would not lose a minute of sleep over it, but this team is better now than it was under the LO era. After 9 years at Akron, LO could only muster 5 wins against I-A teams his last year.Lee inherited a disaster of a program and had the worst facilities and administrative support in the nation to deal with. JD inherited a team with 4 future NFL players, coming off a winning record, one of the top graduation rates in the NCAA, and one of the top brand new practice facilities in the nation. STARTING OFF with that, he can barely muster 5 wins in his fifth season, in what has become the worst division in college football (the 2003 MAC had 3 ranked teams throughout the year and was knocking off ranked teams left and right). The comparison doesn't look too hot for your man JD.You are dodging the point. JD would have a better record vs. LO if LO didn't play three cream puffs. It's OK to say your comparison isn't quite honest if you look closely.So JD is two or three games better than LO over the course of five years. Big deal!!! The results are still not good enough as I have described in several other posts. The facilities and administrative support differences are also notable.Yes, over a five year period, JD is better than LO. Yes, the results aren't good enough.Some of you need to calm down. JD is coming back next year and we will see then whether he has the ability to win at least six games or not.

the next football excitement is when the season ticket holders for the Info get to go in and pick there seats...thats according to the ticket orifice...I am pretty curious as to what procedure they intend to use for this whole "pick your seat" thing. Does anyone have any insight?If its like at other new sports facilities, the season ticket purchasers show up on a given day and are told to pick any seats with a specific color tag. They are then turned loose and can choose from whatever seats still have the tags of the appropriate color. Once the tag is removed, the seat is off the market. I've never done it but I've heard its like a gold rush for the first people in the park.Sort of like land claims in Oklahoma in the 1800's. Can they shoot anyone who runs in early?

Wow, You will be happy if JD wins 6 games next year. BGSU just fired their coach for only winning 6 games. You will be happy wth 6 games...."At least" six games......

Weren't three of those wins in the last three years of LO against I-AA teams (Howard, Cal Poly and Liberty)? I'm sure that if that was the case and we filled those I-AA spots with I-A teams, the record would look more like 25-34. I fail to see how that is better than 27-32. Don't forget the wins against BCS teams and the MAC Championship either.I'm not being overly defensive of JD because if he got fired tomorrow I would not lose a minute of sleep over it, but this team is better now than it was under the LO era. After 9 years at Akron, LO could only muster 5 wins against I-A teams his last year.Lee inherited a disaster of a program and had the worst facilities and administrative support in the nation to deal with. JD inherited a team with 4 future NFL players, coming off a winning record, one of the top graduation rates in the NCAA, and one of the top brand new practice facilities in the nation. STARTING OFF with that, he can barely muster 5 wins in his fifth season, in what has become the worst division in college football (the 2003 MAC had 3 ranked teams throughout the year and was knocking off ranked teams left and right). The comparison doesn't look too hot for your man JD.You are dodging the point. JD would have a better record vs. LO if LO didn't play three cream puffs. It's OK to say your comparison isn't quite honest if you look closely.

Glenn Mason... go get him Mack.He was average at Can't and terrible at Minnesota. Why him?

It's funny that you say this about the football team and then in the next paragraph you say what a great job KD is doing and this very sentence could EASILY apply to him with the word basketball replacing football.

Weren't three of those wins in the last three years of LO against I-AA teams (Howard, Cal Poly and Liberty)? I'm sure that if that was the case and we filled those I-AA spots with I-A teams, the record would look more like 25-34. I fail to see how that is better than 27-32. Don't forget the wins against BCS teams and the MAC Championship either.I'm not being overly defensive of JD because if he got fired tomorrow I would not lose a minute of sleep over it, but this team is better now than it was under the LO era. After 9 years at Akron, LO could only muster 5 wins against I-A teams his last year.

This is exactly why the MAC has been around since 1946 and is still a laughing stock. Nobody can seem to get their arms around the fact that six wins is a good season in the MAC. This guy also beat Pitt early in the season. I just don't know what to say. Very foolish move on BG's part. Enjoy your next home in Florida Coach Brandon. You will be in a better place.

This is actually a good question. Not agreeing to get rid of the defense he uses right now would be a good reason to get rid of him. I'm not convinced that there are good coaches out there to be had. If there are, who are they and why would they come to Akron? The thing to be most critical about JD is his inability to do anything with the talent on the team. In the end, I want JD to stay, but I don't care if they keep him or fire him at this point. I felt exactly the same way after Bill Cowher's last year with the Steelers and things seem to be working out well for them contrary to how a lot of Yinzers felt at the time. 10-15 years from now, next year will not be the critical time in the program's history that a lot of you think it will be. Akron will have a lot of good seasons ahead of it and a lot of bad seasons. The entire future of the program does not rest on next season. Akron does not need to win next season because there is a new stadium. Akron needs to win next year because they have a lot of talent and they SHOULD be winning. The new stadium will just be a nice place to go watch a team win that should be winning. At this point, the best I could do to predict whether firing JD is the right thing to do or not would be to apply my fool proof Zips/Browns fan logic to it. From the poll on another thread, it is 50/50 right now to fire or not. I guess I will have to see how that poll plays out.

Injuries killed the team this year. They still won five and that was my prediction at the beginning of the year assuming a healthy team.JD gets one more year to win at least six games. First things first though. Either he commits to throwing away the 3-3-5 next year or he goes tomorrow as far as I am concerned. The team can't risk another season with that defense.

Can't winning today reminds me of a usual golf outing for me when I used to play golf. I would suck for 17 holes and then par or birdie the final hole leaving me with a good feeling. Then I would come back for more abuse thinking I would not suck anymore and the same thing would happen.Can't just birdied the last hole. Will they now think they have turned the ship around?

Who would have thunk this one? Although, you sure can win a lot of games scoring as much as Eastern did.

Of course Cowher is a pipe dream. From what I read, he will be the head coach of 10 different teams next year.

zippyrifle32,Thank you for the reminder as to why I moved from Ohio. It's only Thanksgiving and the weather is like this already. That just blows.

My first soccer post ever. Since I don't know anything about soccer, I'll just comment on the topic.Who is to blame? God gave us snow so I guess he is to blame. If anyone wants to take it up with him, do it today or tomorrow as Sunday is his day off. I believe the outdoor football practice field is lined for soccer. Where in the heck would they put the people coming to watch the game?There is no way in heck that they should line InfoCision Stadium with soccer lines. It is a D-1A football stadium and needs to look like one and not a high school field.I can see that everyone is in a tizzy about this. It does suck, but to sit around trying to blame someone for a once in a lifetime event is silly. Overreacting and trying to come up with solutions to a once in a lifetime event is not productive. SH!+ happens. If the Zips take care of business Sunday, the ten day forecast looks OK for this time of year in Akron. The snow should be gone and the field playable.

You're partially right and partially wrong.It is true that the 3-3-5 accounts for all gaps. The problem is not every player is suited to fill every gap. Our players are too small when we use this defense and they get overpowered by larger players.

I've often thought the same thing in terms of the mess he left the program in. I think we have recovered, but it was a disaster at the end.Here is why I think people forgive Faust. Everything Faust did at the end of his time at Akron was done out of a certain sense of decency. He was and was becoming more of a deeply religious man at the end of his time here. Recent history shows that religion and successful college programs do not mix well. It sort of reminds me of a story a professor of mine told me. When he was in graduate school at Harvard Divinity, he took a class taught by future Secretary of State Henry Kissinger (the only Sec. of State to have two Presidents serve under him). One day he asked him about an ethical question in international politics and Kissinger responded, "What do ethics have to do with international politics?" In the end, the players he brought here were awful, but he always gave someone a chance or a second chance or a third chance too many. Even if a kid stunk, he was looking for something he could bring out in him to make him better. People can forgive a guy like that.Both Faust and JD were stung by bad character guys. Faust didn't know how to recover from that because he had never in his life been faced with a lot of bad character guys. I'm sure Notre Dame didn't lend itself to bad character guys. JD is just now recovering from his early recruiting mistakes. I'm sure he saw his share of bad character guys at Pitt. If Akron had the same academic support system that BCS schools have for their at risk student athletes, I think a lot of the discussions on this board would be different about JD's future.

Coach Faust is a great guy. I almost feel bad typing this. When I read this, I could hear the motivational talk..... "We beat the Swenson's Lions....and the Swenson's Lions beat the Strickland's Giants.....and the Strickland's Giants beat the JCC Seahawks......and the JCC Seahawks beat the Downtown YMCA Eagles....and the Downtown YMCA Eagles beat the Ido Cafe Chargers....and the Ido Cafe Chargers beat the West Point Market Packers.....That means we can beat the West Point Market Packers."

Thank you for your comments. I can see the playoffs while you are seeing another high first round bust of a draft pick. Enjoy the misery.Back to the Zips. The 3-4 is the way to go. It gives a team more flexibility against the various offenses college teams run week to week.

Are you a steelers fan? I take offense to everything you have said in regards to browns fans. Youve got balls say that crap about Browns fansYes I am.You should be more offended by the Browns.You can't argue with the logic.....Let's stick with the Zips.